Please respond to this statement

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Please respond to this statement

Posted: 1/11/2006 4:11:56 PM EDT

"Value of activity outweighed by dangerous attributes. 'Assault weapons' serve no socially useful purpose in civilian hands."

Posted: 1/11/2006 4:13:41 PM EDT

[#1]

Molon Labe

Posted: 1/11/2006 4:14:11 PM EDT

[#2]

fu

Posted: 1/11/2006 4:14:41 PM EDT

[#3]

i like pie.

Posted: 1/11/2006 4:14:43 PM EDT

[#4]

SHUT THE FUCK UP ASSHAT!
oh, did you want, like a mature response or something?

Posted: 1/11/2006 4:16:05 PM EDT

[#5]

FOAD.

now for the punchline, tell us who said it.

Posted: 1/11/2006 4:17:45 PM EDT

[#6]

"If guns are outlawed....Only outlaws will have guns."

Posted: 1/11/2006 4:18:06 PM EDT

[#7]

Pure nonsense in every respect. Uninformed opinion, not supported by any hard facts.

Posted: 1/11/2006 4:18:33 PM EDT

[#8]

When the dangerous attributes are used to hurt another, that's a crime. There needs to be no additional legal response, after the original crime is properly punished.
Simply put?
"Instead of charging somebody with murder or attempted murder, let's charge them with having the wrong features on their rifle."
Are we together? Let's keep going.
"We know you haven't hurt or killed anybody, and we know you haven't conspired to inflict harm, but your tool has no socially redeeming value. That's a felony. Off to Pound Me In The Ass Prison with you."

Posted: 1/11/2006 4:19:14 PM EDT

[#9]

"Value of activity outweighed by dangerous attributes. 'Privacy' serves no socially useful purpose in civilian hands."

"Value of activity outweighed by dangerous attributes. 'Free Speech' serves no socially useful purpose in civilian hands."

"Value of activity outweighed by dangerous attributes. 'Liberty' serves no socially useful purpose in civilian hands."

Posted: 1/11/2006 4:20:48 PM EDT

[#10]

Oh, and you need to read the Motherluvin' Constitution. The United States Government is not authorized to exercise power not enumerated to it, and it is not allowed to infringe upon individual rights that HAVE been enumerated to us. Social Engineering as a government function is NOT in the Constitution. Now, fuck off!

Posted: 1/11/2006 4:22:57 PM EDT

[#11]

1. "assault weapons" is a politically motivated and contrived term designed to daemonize particular guns that are no more lethal or effective (in many cases) that what are considered "traditional guns".

2. The Second Amendmendment and all supporting historical documents surrounding the creation of it CLEARLY spell out the intent of the Founders to put the ultimate power against a government run amok in the hands of the PEOPLE. The people therefore have a GUARANTEED CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to own weapons capable of defeating a tyrannical government. You can't do that without possession of similarly effective weapons.

3. The particular tool used in criminal misconduct is irrelevant. It's the CRIMINAL that needs to be punished. History has shown that no law against the use of a particular object has reduced criminal activity. They either ignore it or find alternatives.

Posted: 1/11/2006 4:23:09 PM EDT

[#12]

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".

Posted: 1/11/2006 4:23:16 PM EDT

[#13]

Truer words have never been spoken????

Posted: 1/11/2006 4:23:24 PM EDT

[#14]

"Value of activity outweighed by dangerous attributes. Politicians serve no socially useful purpose in civilized society."

Posted: 1/11/2006 4:25:02 PM EDT

[#15]

Some anti gun lawyer said it

Posted: 1/11/2006 4:26:34 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
Some anti gun lawyer said it

It doesn't make my statement any less true.

Posted: 1/11/2006 4:27:55 PM EDT

[#17]

Posted: 1/11/2006 4:31:07 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
Oh, and you need to read the Motherluvin' Constitution. The United States Government is not authorized to exercise power not enumerated to it, and it is not allowed to infringe upon individual rights that HAVE been enumerated to us. Social Engineering as a government function is NOT in the Constitution. Now, fuck off!

No. Don't you understand anything?! You see, the constitution has this "Interstate Commerce" clause, which mandates that the government control all aspects of everything since there are no activities which can be found to not affect anything in another state. And everything that can be regulated, obviously must be regulated for the good of everyone, especially the gov't. In fact, since nearly everyone has had the pleasure of visiting another state, and thus been in interstate commerce, nearly everyone is under the control of the federal gov't. You need to read between the lines.

The constitution really is a living, breathing document. Only a fool would believe that the second amendment is a right to own such evil things as weapons. It says "ARMS"! Obviously, that means the government cannot amputate limbs. Unless of course, those limbs are abnormally, large, small, strong, quick, or ugly. In such cases, the government has a duty to amputate limbs. But only if they have been to another state.

Edit to reduce triple negative to double negative since the use of triple negatives has been outlawed in CA, NJ, HI, IL, MA, and NY.

Posted: 1/11/2006 4:32:51 PM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Oh, and you need to read the Motherluvin' Constitution. The United States Government is not authorized to exercise power not enumerated to it, and it is not allowed to infringe upon individual rights that HAVE been enumerated to us. Social Engineering as a government function is NOT in the Constitution. Now, fuck off!

No. Don't you understand anything?! You see, the constitution has this "Interstate Commerce" clause, which mandates that the government control all aspects of everything since there are no activities which can't be found to not affect anything in another state. And everything that can be regulated, obviously must be regulated for the good of everyone, especially the gov't. In fact, since nearly everyone has had the pleasure of visiting another state, and thus been in interstate commerce, nearly everyone is under the control of the federal gov't. You need to read between the lines.

The constitution really is a living, breathing document. Only a fool would believe that the second amendment is a right to own such evil things as weapons. It says "ARMS"! Obviously, that means the government cannot amputate limbs. Unless of course, those limbs are abnormally, large, small, strong, quick, or ugly. In such cases, the government has a duty to amputate limbs. But only if they have been to another state.

and I thought I could come up with some twisted stuff. I'm so proud.

Posted: 1/11/2006 4:36:00 PM EDT

[#20]

What funny is that EVEN IF you accept the premise of the statement (that assault weapons serve no purpose in civilian hands), it is still nonsense.

Lots of things I own serve no "socially useful purpose" - hell, probably most of the things I own serve no "socially useful purpose"

How is my large house (that I live in alone) socially useful? Heating and cooling it consumes resources, and nobody else benefits.
How is my Mustang socially useful? It guzzles gas, makes noise, and people could be injured driving it.
How are my cats socially useful? I could trip over them and be injured, and they have no inherent value.
How is my dive gear socially useful? It's dangerous to dive, and has no socially valuable attributes.

That's the most retarded argument ever.

Posted: 1/11/2006 4:38:27 PM EDT

[#21]

Read the Constitution, Asshat

Posted: 1/11/2006 4:40:00 PM EDT

[#22]

neither do Corvettes, Hummers, Lambos, 3000 square foot houses, 72 inch tall refridgerators

Posted: 1/11/2006 4:41:13 PM EDT

[#23]

They serve an eminately important purpose to the society in which we live. A free society is dependent upon our government being in proper fear of the people for whom they serve. The potential of extreme violence that assault weapons have ensure that our representatives never exceed the boundaries of the Constitution which they swore to uphold. Our founding fathers recognized this dependency and crafted the 2nd Amendment accordingly.

Posted: 1/11/2006 4:41:35 PM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:
"Value of activity outweighed by dangerous attributes. 'Assault weapons' serve no socially useful purpose in civilian hands."

"What experience and history teach is this -- that nations and governments have never learned anything from history, or acted upon any lessons they might have drawn from it." Hegel, intro to Philosophy of History

Posted: 1/11/2006 4:45:49 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:
"Value of activity outweighed by dangerous attributes. 'Assault weapons' serve no socially useful purpose in civilian hands."

More people have been murdered by their own Governments who had enacted Gun Bans, than by any amount of violent crime committed by Individuals. Assault Weapons serve a useful purpose, to act as a deterrent to security forces bent on genocide.

Posted: 1/11/2006 5:02:08 PM EDT

[#26]

A well armed citizenry makes governments stop and think before they act in a way that is harmful to the people. It discourages thuggery in both the criminal class and political class.

Such arms in the hands of the people prevents totalitarian governments from taking over.

Disarmament of the citizenry has always preceded genocide... look at the history of gun control in the first half of the past century.

Posted: 1/11/2006 5:06:57 PM EDT

[#27]

Fuck 'em. We're the ones with the guns.

Posted: 1/11/2006 5:08:31 PM EDT

[#28]

WTF is an "assault weapon"?

Posted: 1/11/2006 5:11:24 PM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:
WTF is an "assault weapon"?

Anything black or that holds more than 2 rounds.

Posted: 1/11/2006 5:12:49 PM EDT

[#30]

Sure.

A well schooled electorate, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and read books shall not be infringed.

Ask Mr. Lawyer the following:

1. Does this imply that some books may be banned, if they serve no recreational purpose?
2. Does this imply that only well schooled citizens are permitted to own books?
3. If so, how migt citizens become members of a well schooled electorate if they are not permitted to keep and read books?
4. Does anybody really need to own Mein Kampf? The educational value of the activity is outweighed by the dangerous message it contains, is it not?

Oh, and 0WN3D, bitch!

Some people...

Posted: 1/11/2006 5:20:48 PM EDT

[#31]

Eat Shit & Die you commie pinko tree huggin' libtard !

Posted: 1/11/2006 5:21:42 PM EDT

[#32]

Blow me.

Posted: 1/11/2006 5:31:01 PM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:
1. "assault weapons" is a politically motivated and contrived term designed to daemonize particular guns that are no more lethal or effective (in many cases) that what are considered "traditional guns".

Anything that contains ammo can "assault" a person.
A big barelled aluminum bat can be a great assault weapon.
Whats in a name