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Posted: 1/11/2006 12:44:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 12:46:07 PM EDT by fxntime]
DON'T TREAD ON ME!

Listen my children and you shall hear
Of the midnight ride of Paul Revere,
"To arms, to arms, to spades and hoes;
Bury all your guns, before the King knows!"

Imagine the Redcoats, filled with delight;
Not one armed Colonist stood ready to fight!
Lexington and Concord were burned to the ground,
Crackling flames were the only heard sound.

Higher taxes were levied,
more rights were denied-
For lack of arms, many Patriots died.

So listen my children and you shall hear,
No Country was born, only suffering and fear.

If tyranny you want, then bury and pray,
For that speedy arrival of that "brighter day."

But if liberty you love, and you yearn to be free,
Then live by this motto:
Don't tread on me!

I'll give credit to Jin Hancock for this
Just something I reread from a while ago.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 5:40:38 PM EDT
I like it. I fear 99% of the people on this board would not heed its call though.

-Ben
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 5:43:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 5:44:39 PM EDT by fight4yourrights]
Don' t forget the asinine "lost them in a boating accident" stories too.i
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 5:44:32 PM EDT
Here! Here!
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 5:45:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 5:46:17 PM EDT by Wobblin-Goblin]

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
Don' t forget the asine "lost them in a boating accident" stories too.


I know, those are lame.

Sorry to say, though, that all mine were lost due to a tragic accident involving a midget, some Clorox, a shop vac, and a butane lighter. Horrible, just horrible.

Link Posted: 1/11/2006 5:47:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
Don' t forget the asine "lost them in a boating accident" stories too.


I know, those are lame.

Sorry to say, though, that all mine were lost due to a tragic accident involving a midget, some Clorox, a shop vac, and a butane lighter. Horrible, just horrible.



You too..........................small world
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 5:47:52 PM EDT
WOW! Post it daily.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 5:54:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RockHard13F:
I like it. I fear 99% of the people on this board would not heed its call though.

-Ben




Better to die free than live in tyranny.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:01:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NAM:

Originally Posted By RockHard13F:
I like it. I fear 99% of the people on this board would not heed its call though.

-Ben




Better to die free than live in tyranny.



Well it is good to know at least a few of us profess to have guts. And those who wouldn't want to do so online for whatever reason, I call you all cowards as well. Grow a spine.

Thanks Nam. Carry on.

-Ben
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:06:49 PM EDT
I lost my shovel in a boating accident.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:08:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NAM:

Originally Posted By RockHard13F:
I like it. I fear 99% of the people on this board would not heed its call though.

-Ben




Better to die free than live in tyranny.



That would be the wayt o go out, in a hail of gunfire
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:10:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 6:10:58 PM EDT by JBowles]
New Old Sig line


Edit should be

"You may find me one day dead in a ditch somewhere. But by God, you'll find me in a pile of brass- Tpr. M. Padgett"

left of the Y
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:11:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 6:14:34 PM EDT by WildBoar]
Good read but I bet 100 % of the folks responding so far will not make a blaze of glory fight if the feds showed up tomorrow and asked for their guns to be handed in.

Its good that some will possibly fight it out in the first wave. I think it would be wiser to calculate what to do based on the first transgresion. Perhaps move to a better location and see what mistakes were made on both sides. Maybe move to a state where otehr like minded folk are and operate from there. In either case its a hard call until it happens.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:13:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 6:14:29 PM EDT by JBowles]

Originally Posted By WildBoar:
Good read but I bet 100 % of the folks responding so far will not make a blaze of glory fight if the feds showed up tomorrow and asked for their guns to be handed in.




Honestly

I wouldn't tommorrow.

If it happend tomorrow I would go into Bug out mode.


I have got too much goin for me.

Right now I woulf run and fight a anoughter day on my terms then just go rambo on some JBTs
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:13:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JBowles:

Originally Posted By NAM:

Better to die free than live in tyranny.



That would be the wayt o go out, in a hail of gunfire



As i've said before, action locked open on an empty mag, pile of empty brass on the side, pile of enemy carcasses in front....
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:15:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JBowles:

Originally Posted By WildBoar:
Good read but I bet 100 % of the folks responding so far will not make a blaze of glory fight if the feds showed up tomorrow and asked for their guns to be handed in.




Honestly

I wouldn't tommorrow.

If it happend tomorrow I would go into Bug out mode.


I have got too much goin for me.

Right now I woulf run and fight a anoughter day on my terms then just go rambo on some JBTs



I agree.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:15:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WildBoar:
Good read but I bet 100 % of the folks responding so far will not make a blaze of glory fight if the feds showed up tomorrow and asked for their guns to be handed in.




"....from all enemies, foreign and domestic."
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:15:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JBowles:

Honestly

I wouldn't tommorrow.

If it happend tomorrow I would go into Bug out mode.




Where you going to run? Where you going to hide?


I hope it's just to buy time to regroup and make plans
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:16:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 6:18:03 PM EDT by JBowles]

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:

Originally Posted By JBowles:

Honestly

I wouldn't tommorrow.

If it happend tomorrow I would go into Bug out mode.




Where you going to run? Where you going to hide?


I hope it's just to buy time to regroup and make plans



Yes

I would just go, untill I get a chance to figure out what to do
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:17:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NAM:

Originally Posted By WildBoar:
Good read but I bet 100 % of the folks responding so far will not make a blaze of glory fight if the feds showed up tomorrow and asked for their guns to be handed in.




"....from all enemies, foreign and domestic."



Funny thing is, even people who wear suits take that oath.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:18:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 6:18:29 PM EDT by WildBoar]
FWIW I am not against those wo want to slug it out at the first request( they will provide lessons learned). I just think its wiser to hand em a non working Marlin .22 and recon the situation first.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:19:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JBowles:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:

Originally Posted By JBowles:

Honestly

I wouldn't tommorrow.

If it happend tomorrow I would go into Bug out mode.




Where you going to run? Where you going to hide?


I hope it's just to buy time to regroup and make plans



Yes



Those of us with an actual mindset towards freedom ought to have a "Freedom Shoot 2006" this summer or something. We could even all pitch in and get some land to do it on. Land is running for close to or under 300 dollars an acre along the mexican border right now. We could make noise and scare away illegals both at once.

-Ben
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:23:36 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:27:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By cmjohnson:
Hypothetically speaking, the smartest way to prosecute a war against those who would want to deprive you of your weaponry would be to take decisive but discreet action against those in the field who would actually be doing the confiscating, and against their immediate superiors. You'd do it guerilla style,
without warning. Seemingly random sniper attacks directed at the local head honchos.

I'd hope it would never come to that, but if it did, that'd be a better way to prosecute the war than
the "go out in a blaze of glory" method.

The guerilla sniper approach is the way to go.

CJ



+1

Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:27:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 6:28:40 PM EDT by RockHard13F]

Originally Posted By cmjohnson:
Hypothetically speaking, the smartest way to prosecute a war against those who would want to deprive you of your weaponry would be to take decisive but discreet action against those in the field who would actually be doing the confiscating, and against their immediate superiors. You'd do it guerilla style,
without warning. Seemingly random sniper attacks directed at the local head honchos.

I'd hope it would never come to that, but if it did, that'd be a better way to prosecute the war than
the "go out in a blaze of glory" method.

The guerilla sniper approach is the way to go.

CJ



Also hypothetically speaking, I agree to a large extent. It would require extensive planning, with many contengiency plans and backups for when those fail. But the only viable method would be coordinated raids/ambushs/eliminations. Everything would need to be done in a very covert/special forces fashion where individuals or small teams got in/arrived, accomplish their objective, and get out before they can be compromised. We couldn't afford to lose people fighting any other way.

-Ben
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:28:13 PM EDT
anybody who does stand up will both be beat down by brute force of the Governments hand, and by the media. They will be declared Right wing gun nuts, with connections to the KKK and other domestic terrorist organizations. They may even find child porn or drugs in your home, along with your "arsenal" of weapons and military grade armor piercing ammo. You of course will have bomb making material.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:28:28 PM EDT
Of course, all this is just hypothetical.

Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:29:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Wobblin-Goblin:
Of course, all this is just hypothetical.




Of Course silly goblin!

-Ben
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:39:05 PM EDT
I lost my collection in a game of high-stakes poker...I never even knew the name of the guy that won them off of me.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:39:51 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:44:26 PM EDT
DONT GIVE UP! I have heard so many people saying the political fight against liberal nazis is lost, the people that give up are part of the reason that gun control has advanced so far.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 7:28:23 PM EDT
I will shamelessly bump this topic. People need to pay attention to the world around them.

-Ben
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 7:36:15 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 7:45:30 PM EDT
What are guns? I thought this was a board about cans, and butts.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 7:48:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By USGI_45:
anybody who does stand up will both be beat down by brute force of the Governments hand, and by the media. They will be declared Right wing gun nuts, with connections to the KKK and other domestic terrorist organizations. They may even find child porn or drugs in your home, along with your "arsenal" of weapons and military grade armor piercing ammo. You of course will have bomb making material.



You impling the gov would frame people to curry popular favor and supress insurection, or did you hide a camera in my home?
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:03:54 PM EDT
get yer tin foil here! Free tin foil! gitcher free tin foil heyah!

Assuming for a minor moment that the gummint has the capability to come to everybody's doorstep at the same time with overwhelming.... Wait a second, I've worked with and for a variety of gummint agencies over my many years and the concept that the gummint can actually put together an operation of that size is absolutely hilarious, and the idea that they could keep it secret is even more hilarious.

So let's make the more rational assumption that 98% of us aren't going to be surprised by something like this. So why go out in a blaze of glory when you don't have to? How about getting arrested while unarmed and letting them try and find where your boat anchors really are. Oh that's right they can mount searches all over the country simultaneously uninhibited. Or maybe you won't be home.

Yep. Planning for a blaze of glory is pretty damn stupid. Abandoning your family to poverty (or do you think life and home insurance will pay when you off yourself and burn down your house in a criminal act?) good planning there Bubba) to stroke your ego, yeah that's a brilliant idea.

Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:13:29 PM EDT
Bury today.

Dig up tomorrow.

Then they'll think I don't have anything. It's easier to shoot them in the back of the head than to shoot them in a full-frontal confrontation. Safer too.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:18:06 PM EDT
This is my promise to fight, however I do not think it will happen...remember, police are real people who have veiws and if guns were banned I am almost sure that they would not obey their orders to kill a civilian becasue he or she doenst want to give up their guns.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:22:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Melvinator2k0:
This is my promise to fight, however I do not think it will happen...remember, police are real people who have veiws and if guns were banned I am almost sure that they some of them would not obey their orders to kill a civilian becasue he or she doenst want to give up their guns.

Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:23:50 PM EDT
If you think it's time to bury your guns, in reality it's time to dig them up.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:31:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By PaDanby:
get yer tin foil here! Free tin foil! gitcher free tin foil heyah!

Assuming for a minor moment that the gummint has the capability to come to everybody's doorstep at the same time with overwhelming.... Wait a second, I've worked with and for a variety of gummint agencies over my many years and the concept that the gummint can actually put together an operation of that size is absolutely hilarious, and the idea that they could keep it secret is even more hilarious.

So let's make the more rational assumption that 98% of us aren't going to be surprised by something like this. So why go out in a blaze of glory when you don't have to? How about getting arrested while unarmed and letting them try and find where your boat anchors really are. Oh that's right they can mount searches all over the country simultaneously uninhibited. Or maybe you won't be home.

Yep. Planning for a blaze of glory is pretty damn stupid. Abandoning your family to poverty (or do you think life and home insurance will pay when you off yourself and burn down your house in a criminal act?) good planning there Bubba) to stroke your ego, yeah that's a brilliant idea.




I also have worked for a couple of government agencys. Did you know the Dept. of Agriculture has a helluva Law Enforcement division? More then they should...And I think that the biggest threat is not them going out in mass to take peoples weapons. They will, as they have been, continue hanging us one by one. We either will hang together or seperately, but they would prefer to do it one or two at a time to keep attention away from us, and to make it easier to paint us as the bad guys. You really cannot afford to wait for them to come door to door, by then it is too late.

-Ben
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:37:36 PM EDT
You guys are nuts.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:46:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SpecialOperator:
You guys are nuts.



I am a Philosophy/PoliSci Major. Sometimes doing the right thing might get you killed. Better to die doing what is right then to live miserably.

-Ben
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:47:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 8:58:14 PM EDT by Progunvoter]
Guys, all the little 22's and 7.62s are just toys... little noise makers. If a big dog comes he'll be riding in tanks and wearing body armour. These small arms don't mean squat. the iraqis aren't getting many kills with peashooters. They now use booby traps, land mines. Their little AK's are pretty worthless against our forces.

Enjoy having fun with the fantasy. But I don't believe for one second that private citizens would have a snowballs chance in hell of repelling a trained and equiped force. Talk to the folks at Waco TX or Ruby Ridge if you need a second opinion.

Just keep telling your representatives that you vote pro-second amendment. they listen ocassionally as was recently proven with the expiration of the AWB. Your BEST weapon is the ballot box - VOTE

Ok, go ahead and flame me.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:50:42 PM EDT
The good people of Kalifornia didn't rise up and revolt when the Government banned their guns.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:51:24 PM EDT
tag
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 9:02:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Progunvoter:
Guys, all the little 22's and 7.62s are just toys... little noise makers. If a big dog comes he'll be riding in tanks and wearing body armour. These small arms don't mean squat. the iraqis aren't getting many kills with peashooters. booby traps, land mines and ied's seems to be the only proven effective weapons of a rag tag group.

Enjoy having fun with the fantasy.

I don't believe Private citizens have a snowballs chance in hell of repelling a trained and equiped force. Talk to the folks at Waco TX or Ruby Ridge if you need a second opinion.

Now back to fantasy land. Flame on.



The Afghans pretty much handed the Russians their asses with
guerrilla tactics small arms .

Your assumption rests on the fact that our military would follow orders
to take arms against their own country . Something I seriously doubt
would happen if there ever was a large uprising throughout the country .
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 9:04:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 9:05:42 PM EDT by RockHard13F]

Originally Posted By Progunvoter:
Guys, all the little 22's and 7.62s are just toys... little noise makers. If a big dog comes he'll be riding in tanks and wearing body armour. These small arms don't mean squat. the iraqis aren't getting many kills with peashooters. They now use booby traps, land mines. Their little AK's are pretty worthless against our forces.

Enjoy having fun with the fantasy.

I don't believe for one second that private citizens would have a snowballs chance in hell of repelling a trained and equiped force. Talk to the folks at Waco TX or Ruby Ridge if you need a second opinion.

Just keep telling your representatives that you vote pro-second amendment. they listen ocassionally as was recently proven with the expiration of the AWB. Your BEST weapon is the ballot box - VOTE

Ok, go ahead and flame me.



I am prior service USA, and I understand very well the capabilities of Armor, especially the CFV. The Iraqis don't do shit cause they are terrible shots. Don't get me wrong, body armor, especially the Interceptor, is great, but it IS overrated. And no one said anything about fighting the big dogs. I think everything mentioned in this threads hypothetical situation has been covert, done on our grounds and not in the instance of them coming on us first with overwhelming force. Even so, in the event of what has been described thus far, I would fight. I would expect to be killed more likely then not, but better that then to die later wishing I had been the one who refused to back down and had stood for freedom and principle. I know that there are far worse things then death. Maybe being a Hebrew/Jew puts me and the attitude I was raised with along a differant train of thought then yours though huh? If you don't stand with us, then go your seperate way in peace, and lets just forget you were ever called a friend.

-Ben

ETA: I am racking out now, I will deal with any other nay sayers in the morning.
Link Posted: 1/12/2006 3:39:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
If you think it's time to bury your guns, in reality it's time to dig them up.


+1
Link Posted: 1/12/2006 3:42:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SpecialOperator:
You guys are nuts.


This, coming from a "Special Operator."

Link Posted: 1/12/2006 3:44:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fxntime:
DON'T TREAD ON ME!

Listen my children and you shall hear
Of the midnight ride of Paul Revere,
"To arms, to arms, to spades and hoes;
Bury all your guns, before the King knows!"

Imagine the Redcoats, filled with delight;
Not one armed Colonist stood ready to fight!
Lexington and Concord were burned to the ground,
Crackling flames were the only heard sound.

Higher taxes were levied,
more rights were denied-
For lack of arms, many Patriots died.

So listen my children and you shall hear,
No Country was born, only suffering and fear.

If tyranny you want, then bury and pray,
For that speedy arrival of that "brighter day."

But if liberty you love, and you yearn to be free,
Then live by this motto:
Don't tread on me!

I'll give credit to Jin Hancock for this
Just something I reread from a while ago.



I wonder how many "compliance checkpoints" Paul would have gone through during his ride.
After midnight alot of drunk riding around doncha know!
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