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Posted: 1/11/2006 12:05:18 PM EDT
s12 shotguns have been scarce as hell and the russians have been acting like their status was a frigging state secret...but they've finally cleared customs and the us importer is sending them out. check out the link for more info!
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 12:08:28 PM EDT
Got pictures?
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 12:09:32 PM EDT
How much $$$ for one these days?
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 12:09:57 PM EDT
Oh good lord!! Is CDNN getting some?
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 12:10:46 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 12:14:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
Oh good lord!! Is CDNN getting some?



According to Tony at Tromix, those CDNN days are over. Prices are going to be substancially higher for the new Saigas.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 12:16:58 PM EDT
Wo... um,, nevermind.

Still banned by name in the great state of New Jersey. And banned by feature set as well.

Link Posted: 1/11/2006 12:19:24 PM EDT
price? how many rounds in a mag? AK reliability?
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 12:31:56 PM EDT
That retailers are going to get them?
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 12:34:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CS223:

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
Oh good lord!! Is CDNN getting some?



According to Tony at Tromix, those CDNN days are over. Prices are going to be substancially higher for the new Saigas.



Who is getting them in... (wholesalers)
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 12:35:39 PM EDT
It's a beautiful thing.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 12:52:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BoreSighted:
Wo... um,, nevermind.

Still banned by name in the great state of New Jersey. And banned by feature set as well.




Appears to be banned in CA too
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 1:09:30 PM EDT
Never seen one, somebody please post a pic.

B_S
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 1:22:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 1:22:47 PM EDT by DesertRat66]

Originally Posted By Blue_Suiter:
Never seen one, somebody please post a pic.

B_S



Google Image search came up with this

Link Posted: 1/11/2006 2:00:44 PM EDT

I like mine a lot.

Although i will admit that I wish the bolt was held open automatically after the last round fired so that a new mag could be put in easier.


I also wish someone would make a one piece pistol grip stock so that I didn't have to do the conversion.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 2:07:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 2:08:11 PM EDT by FMJshooter]
This guy is pre ordering them. Not bad $$$ dont know if thats a good price or not but seems reasonable. Bottom left square.

www.thegunsource.com/shopping_category.aspx?idcategory=5&idmanufacturer=451
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 2:13:38 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 2:14:40 PM EDT
Mags?


Availability of mags is a HUGE concern with these..... Need some 10 rounders!
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 2:14:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By blackbag223:
price? how many rounds in a mag? AK reliability?



anyone?
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 2:17:16 PM EDT
Tag.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 2:17:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By blackbag223:

Originally Posted By blackbag223:
price? how many rounds in a mag? AK reliability?



anyone?



There is a wealth of knowledge at your fingertips, my son...

www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=4&f=80

I have 2 Saigas which both work very well. Mags are expensive and rare. Cool factor is very high.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 2:24:50 PM EDT
Dont care. Think they blow.
No mags, No bolt hold open and they have that damm stupids AK grip.

I'll pass.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 2:58:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Cape_hunter:
Dont care. Think they blow.
No mags, No bolt hold open and they have that damm stupids AK grip.

I'll pass.



You've lived a very abused life havent you?

The saiga ROCKS!!
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 3:00:46 PM EDT
saigas are banned in NJ? wow that's taking this to a pretty low level. Didn't think they could go lower than banning M1 carbines, but.....

on a good news front, I just purchaseda tromix saiga 308 hi cap mag, one of first prototypes.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 3:11:30 PM EDT
Ugly, and expensive.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 3:13:03 PM EDT
Check out saigacentral.com for some prices. It's better than some of the pre-order prices I've seen.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 3:16:51 PM EDT
My dad got a Saiga .410 cheap, and he's killed a truckload of pheasants with it. It has zero recoil, and is reliable like an AK. If I remember correctly it only held five rounds, but you could unload so fast and so smoothly it was almost like one long continuous shot. The first time I shot it I wasn't sure the gun had gone off, if the clay wouldn't have broken I would have thought it was a misfire.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 3:24:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AR-10:
Ugly, and expensive.


$400 is expensive for a semi auto 12 gauge?
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 3:29:53 PM EDT
Yes, when it is that ugly and made by commies.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 3:33:58 PM EDT
OK here is the deal.

A guy here in AZ is going to be making 10 round mags.

AZEX is doing the conversions.


Bolt hold, i have nothing.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 3:38:48 PM EDT
I take one if i had the money right now, as long as i could get some 8rd mags for it and a 16 inch barrel
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 3:43:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By x5060:
I take one if i had the money right now, as long as i could get some 8rd mags for it and a 16 inch barrel



18 inches is minimum length for non-NFA shotgun.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 3:45:06 PM EDT
And you can bump-fire them!!
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 3:46:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mjrowley:
OK here is the deal.

A guy here in AZ is going to be making 10 round mags.

AZEX is doing the conversions.


Bolt hold, i have nothing.



Screw that! Someone call The Beta Company!
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