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Posted: 1/10/2006 9:39:32 PM EDT
Sometimes when I get up in the middle of the night or if I awake suddenly from a nap I have a momentary vision of spiders.

Usually it is in the form of a single spider dangling from a web or on the ceiling above me.

It is not a matter of poor eyesight, they are often quite detailed, especially when the incarnation is rather close in perspective. And after a brief moment they disappear. I also recently had an eye exam and my vision is fine.

So why does my mind manufacture these images? I have no undue fascination or fear of arachnids. Why can't I awake to visions of female porn stars, guns or dead terrorists? Those are the things I think about and have an interest in seeing.

Am I momentarily glimpsing an alternate parallel spider universe?
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:40:49 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:41:44 PM EDT
stop trying to steal Drfrige nightmares you psychic whore
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:42:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrsGloftoe:
More likely black spots that your brain is organizing into a recognizable shape. It happens when you first stand up, right? I'm betting it's positional-related blood pressure drop.

Yes, I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night. Why do you ask?



Holy hell!

She really is on the ball tonight!
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:43:46 PM EDT
Well, my friendly Zen dealer, Tao begets one; One begets two; Two begets three; Three begets the myriad creatures.

And there you have it. Feel better?
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:44:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrsGloftoe:
More likely black spots that your brain is organizing into a recognizable shape. It happens when you first stand up, right? I'm betting it's positional-related blood pressure drop.

Yes, I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night. Why do you ask?



No, these are quite detailed. I awoke the other day to a shiney black and yellow banded beauty about 3" across dangling from a thread. And then suddenly it wasn't there.

They are definitely part of my brain getting into "shit together" mode but they are much more than sleepy spots.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:45:02 PM EDT
Ask Drfrige
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:45:47 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:48:31 PM EDT
Could be mild Schitzophrenia starting to manifest. Just to be safe send me all your guns as crazies aren't allowed to have guns.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:49:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrsGloftoe:
Can you move when you see them?



Yeah. I'm usually in the process of sitting up or streching.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:51:09 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:52:04 PM EDT
When they start talking to you that's when you should start to worry , until then don't worry about it
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:53:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrsGloftoe:
It's a tumor.



It's not a tumah.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:54:41 PM EDT
Have you been reading the Spider Word books (Colin Wilson)? Those stories will make you see spiders for months...
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:54:57 PM EDT
see? I TOLD you not to drink out of my glass... its contagious!

Just stay away from 1shott and you should be OK
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:55:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrsGloftoe:
It's a tumor.



Que?
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:56:26 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:56:41 PM EDT

Originally Posted By buttercupp:
Have you been reading the Spider Word books (Colin Wilson)? Those stories will make you see spiders for months...



Don't even know what those are...

I wonder if that last spider that bit me was radioactive.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:57:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrsGloftoe:
You're spending too much time looking at my avatar.



I was gonna mention it ain't helping.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:57:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2006 9:58:22 PM EDT by MrsGloftoe]
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:58:06 PM EDT
WARNING

1shott just got the internet back after a bad case of the DT's,
I sense a big hairy crawly thing coming !
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:59:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2006 10:01:18 PM EDT by Stealth]
One version of the spiders symbolic meaning (in dreams or waking dreams):


SPIDER: Any emotion or desire that devours the strength or purpose of your life.


eh, what the hell. New age crap.

oh eta link www.dreamhawk.com/d-dic.htm
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 10:00:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrsGloftoe:

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By MrsGloftoe:
It's a tumor.



Que?



It might be a tumor.

It's not a tumah!



I know the movie, just had no idea what you were talking about.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 10:00:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By buttercupp:
Have you been reading the Spider Word books (Colin Wilson)? Those stories will make you see spiders for months...



Don't even know what those are...

I wonder if that last spider that bit me was radioactive.



You should read them...muhahahaha

Try to climb a wall and swing from a building and tell us if it works.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 10:02:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By buttercupp:

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By buttercupp:
Have you been reading the Spider Word books (Colin Wilson)? Those stories will make you see spiders for months...



Don't even know what those are...

I wonder if that last spider that bit me was radioactive.



You should read them...muhahahaha

Try to climb a wall and swing from a building and tell us if it works.



I could already do that, I have tabi and shuko.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 10:10:53 PM EDT
Flashbacks or bad drugs
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 10:12:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By snarfbatt:
Flashbacks or bad drugs



Neither apply. I don't even drink.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 10:13:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2006 10:15:41 PM EDT by blacklisted]
The exact same shit happens to me, although it has not lately. I used to get sleep paralysis as a child, so this is probably related. I will sometimes wake up and see spiders crawling or hanging from a web strand (very realistic, I can see the divisions in the anatomy). After a while, they sort of fade out of existance. Sometimes I see glowing webs in the corner. I guess I could be going crazy or something, but I doubt it. Oh and I have actually got up an turned the light on to see if these are real and they dissappeared rather quickly.

I reccomend you look up hypnagogic hallucinations.

NM, I did it for you: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogic_hallucination
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 10:15:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By blacklisted:
sleep paralysis



very, very scary stuff. i thought i was going insane until i did some reading on the condition and learned that the visions/hallucinations you get are just the remnants of a dream which you're still in the middle of even though you're awake and your eyes are open.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 10:17:21 PM EDT
Look, he's crawling up my wall
Black and hairy, very small
Now he's up above my head
Hanging by a little thread

Boris the spider
Boris the spider

Now he's dropped on to the floor
Heading for my bedroom door
Maybe he's as scared as me
Where's he gone now, I can't see

Boris the spider
Boris the spider

Creepy, Crawly,
Creepy, Crawly,
Creepy, creepy, crawly, crawly
Creepy, creepy, crawly, crawly
Creepy, creepy, crawly, crawly
Creepy, creepy, crawly, crawly

He's come to a sticky end
Don't think he will ever mend
Never more will he crawl 'round
He's embedded in the ground

Boris the spider
Boris the spider



I declare an acid-fueled flashback from a live concert by The Who.


Link Posted: 1/10/2006 10:17:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2006 10:20:22 PM EDT by SteyrAUG]

Originally Posted By blacklisted:
The exact same shit happens to me, although it has not lately. I used to get sleep paralysis as a child, so this is probably related. I will sometimes wake up and see spiders crawling or hanging from a web strand (very realistic, I can see the divisions in the anatomy). After a while, they sort of fade out of existance. Sometimes I see glowing webs in the corner. I guess I could be going crazy or something, but I doubt it. Oh and I have actually got up an turned the light on to see if these are real and they dissappeared rather quickly.

I reccomend you look up hypnagogic hallucinations.

NM, I did it for you: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogic_hallucination



Seems to fit except I can move...

Your eyes are open, you are aware of your surroundings, yet, you cannot move. Suddenly, you hear growling in your ear and feel something monterous bearing down on you, making it difficult to even breathe. You cannot scream, you cannot move away from this molevolent being. You try with all your might to move just a little, finally you manage to move your finger.....the spell is broken, the monster is gone, you can breathe, you can move......relief, terror, heavy breathing...."What just happened to me?"
You have just experienced a Hypnagogic Hallucination. H.H. has been documented in most all cultures as far back as 1000 years or more.

Hallucination, by definition, is false or distorted sensory experiences that appear to be real perceptions. These sensory impressions are generated by the mind rather than by any external stimuli, and may be heard, seen, felt and even smelled or tasted.

A Hypnagogic Hallucination occurs when the dreaming mind intertwines with the waking mind. This can occur on waking (Hypnapomic Hallucination) or at sleep onset (Hypnagogic Hallucination)
H.H. is a common occurance in people with narcolepsy, however, many people have experienced this phenomena. And although it is called an "Hallucination", it is not at all dangerous or a symptom of a dangerous disorder. Frightening? Yes! Harmful? No.

ETA: Looking at your link it seems paralysis isn't in every case.

I guess that is what it must be. However I don't recall dreaming about spiders.

How come I never wake up to Buffy Davis or Trinity Loren?
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 10:18:23 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fossil_fuel:

Originally Posted By blacklisted:
sleep paralysis



very, very scary stuff. i thought i was going insane until i did some reading on the condition and learned that the visions/hallucinations you get are just the remnants of a dream which you're still in the middle of even though you're awake and your eyes are open.



I used to get paralyzed then feel myself being sucked IN TO my floor. Either that or I would seem to become part of various objects in my room. I didn't get much sleep for a while, but it went away.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 10:19:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2006 10:19:39 PM EDT by blacklisted]
When in a hypnagogic or hypnopompic state a person can have lifelike auditory, visual, or tactile hallucinations (known as hypnagogic hallucinations), perhaps even accompanied by full body paralysis.

You aren't always paralyzed, so be thankful you are not.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 10:21:12 PM EDT
I know what it is.
The problem is, its pass 2:00AM and you are posting on here.
Go to sleep early and wake up at reasonable hour in the morning and it will go away.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 10:23:31 PM EDT
when it happens, does it make you absolutely terrified? often times (as was the case with me), hypnogogic visions are absolutely terrifying, because the part of your brain that controls fear suddenly goes into overdrive, kind of like a valve getting struck open. i have come close to getting killed, but that wasn't nearly as scary as the fear i felt during the half dozen episodes of sleep paralysis + hypnogogic visions i have been unfortunate enough to experience.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 10:26:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fossil_fuel:
when it happens, does it make you absolutely terrified? often times (as was the case with me), hypnogogic visions are absolutely terrifying, because the part of your brain that controls fear suddenly goes into overdrive, kind of like a valve getting struck open. i have come close to getting killed, but that wasn't nearly as scary as the fear i felt during the half dozen episodes of sleep paralysis + hypnogogic visions i have been unfortunate enough to experience.



Not really. Usually I just sit back so I don't end up with a fucking spider on my face.

Then I wake up a bit more and "poof" it's gone.

It seems to be somewhat related to "lucid dreaming" (according to the wikipedia link) and I can do that.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 11:30:24 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 4:29:31 AM EDT
I read once that visions of spiders in dreams were symbolic of the mother.
Maybe it has something to do with mom.
Or maybe it's all just BS.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 4:31:33 AM EDT
Brain tumor.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:07:08 AM EDT
Floaters secondary to vitrous detachment.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:15:00 AM EDT
It's from spending too much time on the computer. Stare at the screen long enough and you'll start seeing spiders everywhere.



Link Posted: 1/11/2006 6:23:00 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:11:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By anothergene:
People who breathe through their mouths when in slumber tend to have much fewer to deal with when they awake.
Kinda like "nature's candy" or a midnite snack.



I miss that joke. Been a long time.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 8:14:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 8:15:21 AM EDT by Zippy_The_Wonderdog]
Most likely a golfball size tumor, right in your mellon.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 9:26:11 AM EDT

It could just mean you are an incredibly lucky person.

In Denmark, it is considered good luck if you see a spider when you wake up. Seriously.

Link Posted: 1/11/2006 9:29:18 AM EDT
No worries. His name is Morris. Morris the spider can usually be found crawling up your wall.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 12:30:08 PM EDT
They're real, and they're really there. Your subconscious just tunes them out once it wakes up enough in order to block the terror.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 12:35:18 PM EDT
Put down the bong...
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 12:46:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 12:47:13 PM EDT by Alien]

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By MrsGloftoe:
More likely black spots that your brain is organizing into a recognizable shape. It happens when you first stand up, right? I'm betting it's positional-related blood pressure drop.

Yes, I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night. Why do you ask?



No, these are quite detailed. I awoke the other day to a shiney black and yellow banded beauty about 3" across dangling from a thread. And then suddenly it wasn't there.

They are definitely part of my brain getting into "shit together" mode but they are much more than sleepy spots.



[obligatory post]Wow! I think you have schizophrenia! You'd better send me your guns quick before the JBTs bust down your door and take them away and toss you a bottle of prescription meds![/obligatory post]

You could be seeing interdimensional spiders that your mind is only able to detect on that specific wave length right when you wakeup.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 12:49:42 PM EDT
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