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Posted: 1/10/2006 5:59:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2006 6:01:41 AM EDT by brianksain]
Got a great old pal who is dying of cancer. He was in VN ... before we were in VN ...

He has a lot of guns but always wanted a .357 mag.

Found him a nice 686 at the gun show. Took him, his daughter and son-in-law to the range.

His daughter and son-in-law (Canadian) are EXTREME left wing liberals. Never fired a weapon in their lives.

Anti-Bush, anti-war, anti-gun ... but very nice and very well traveled people. Grew up with the daughter here in Texas but she and I went different ways.

She runs a day care in upper class Austin ... I am a SWAT cop here in the hood.

So we go to the range. My pal gave the son-in-law an old RG .22 he had because the daughter is a business woman now, travels extensively and even they realize that the world is getting scarier every day.

So I teach he and his wife the basics from the 3-7 yrd. line and they do really well with the little .22. Nice round groups.

We moved up to a .32 PPK and then the .357. with .38s and then some hot .357 loads that Old Painless gave me. They had a friggin' blast.

After we had shot a while, I set the hook.

I asked "Hey are we hurting anyone out here shooting this 12 foot high bank of dirt?" ... they said no.

I asked "Do you guys plan to go shoot up a restaraunt full of people when we leave" ... they said no.

I asked if "It was right for someone to come and take their little pistol from them" ... they said no we weren't hurting anyone.

I asked "If the little pistol punched those holes in the paper by itself or was that facilitated by the person wielding the gun" ... they said the person.

I asked "If a criminal was going to obtain a gun if he wished ... no matter what the laws stated" ... they said Of course ...

I said ... Welcome to the NRA.

They just stood there with their mouths open.

So son-in-law says ... Yeah but it is not like we are shooting assault rifles and stuff ... what use does anyone have for one of those things? I said "If you think that little pistol is fun to shoot ... you would absolutely LOVE an AR or AK."

I asked if they wanted shoot my weapons next trip and they said "Hell yeah!"

I then told them "I have a lot of friends that shoot assault rifles who are NOT policemen and they would never dream of harming anyone with them unless it was in self-defense of their own life or that of an innocent third party. JUST LIKE YOU GUYS ... so who are YOU to tell THEM that THEY CANNOT have them?

I then asked them if the politicians in this country and Canada would benefit from a little range session like theirs and they immediately agreed (nodding) ... lol

I then asked son-in-law (70s era guy like me) if he remembered the old Skynyrd song "Saturday Night Special". Musical type ... he says "Oh yeah sure ... GREAT song.

He was holding the RG and I said "Well that is exactly what you have in your hand and what you and your lovely wife have been having so much fun shooting for the last hour and a half ..."

Again mouth open but a big slow nod of acknowledgement.

Fish in a barrel dudes ...

I then told him that the founding fathers of our country were incredibly bright and insightful people and for him to enjoy the rights afforded him as he visited here; while our (and his) countrymen were fighting and dying to preserve those same rights in some third world shithole.

The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

BK
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Link Posted: 1/10/2006 6:01:55 AM EDT
I love to hear that stuff.

Link Posted: 1/10/2006 6:03:16 AM EDT
Hope you kept a sharp eye on the VN vet!

I hear they're all a bunch of druggie whackos.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 6:04:17 AM EDT
Nice job
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 6:12:08 AM EDT

...an old RG .22...


Yup, got one of those also. Sure are fun!



Link Posted: 1/10/2006 6:14:35 AM EDT
Ahhhh ... target model. Nice
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 6:15:03 AM EDT
Excellent!

Good job of prying their eyes open. You took the gun issue from the theoretical into the practical.

Nothing like a good dose of reality!
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 6:16:16 AM EDT
Good job .

Max
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 6:18:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2006 6:19:32 AM EDT by wise_jake]

Originally Posted By JIMBEAM:
Nice job


+1...... +1 = +2 = Great job!

I clicked on this thread somewhat nervously. Thought it might be like something from Con Air:

"Two go down, one comes up."

Or, in this case: "Four go to the range, two come back."

BTW, see my sigline. If they have email, once you feel they're ready, send 'em a link to one of the Flashbunny movies here.

Judging from your post, one of these two might be good to start with:

1) Better off dead (in the vein of your "even they realize that the world is getting scarier every day" comment)

2) The Gunshow Loophole (in the vein of your NRA comments, and their receptiveness)

Thank you for your service, both as a LEO, and as a patriot.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 6:21:46 AM EDT
Excellent!

We have converts in the making!

Now, seal the deal and break out the AR to set the hook and reel em in!
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 6:24:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By wise_jake:
Thank you for your service, both as a LEO, and as a patriot.



That about sums it up!

Nice work!
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 6:28:10 AM EDT
A BIG +1
WE NEED MORE OF THIS!!!!
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 6:28:18 AM EDT
THAT is a GREAT STORY!

Very nice job!

HH
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 6:39:14 AM EDT
Good shit right there.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 6:43:34 AM EDT
well done.

TXL
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 6:48:53 AM EDT
tagged
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 6:54:36 AM EDT
Good job! I love stories like these.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 8:08:04 AM EDT
Thanks fellas. Fun day ...
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 8:10:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2006 8:11:16 AM EDT by CRC]
Great job!

CRC
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 8:18:47 AM EDT
A big for your work!

I *do* have one comment...


I then asked them if the politicians in this country and Canada would benefit from a little range session like theirs and they immediately agreed (nodding) ... lol


This is where the sheeple don't get it. The pols don't give a rats ass about laws because they know for the most part they fall into a "protected class", there are enough loopholes in the laws THEY WRITE to CYA and they will always have "friend in high places" to watch out for them.

Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:01:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2006 9:02:29 AM EDT by brianksain]
Can you say booger eater? ... I knew you could.

Schumer is such a dork.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:11:55 AM EDT
VERY nice work. The fact that you're SWAT helped our cause tremendously, I'm sure. It's one thing if I say it, it's another when a police officer says it (in the minds of the sheeple). When I take libs to the range, I'd LOVE to have an LEO with me. I always knew it would be effective.

It works both ways. An LEO demonstrating the "destructive power" of a "weapon of war" on television sways the populace just as effectively. I guarantee you though - those libs you took shooting will now see that same video and say "That guy in an ass".
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 11:58:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Airwolf:
A big for your work!

I *do* have one comment...


I then asked them if the politicians in this country and Canada would benefit from a little range session like theirs and they immediately agreed (nodding) ... lol

This is where the sheeple don't get it. The pols don't give a rats ass about laws because they know for the most part they fall into a "protected class", there are enough loopholes in the laws THEY WRITE to CYA and they will always have "friend in high places" to watch out for them.

img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/airwolf144/schumer.jpg


Where'd you get that Schumer pic?
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 12:01:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SubnetMask:
VERY nice work. The fact that you're SWAT helped our cause tremendously, I'm sure. It's one thing if I say it, it's another when a police officer says it (in the minds of the sheeple). When I take libs to the range, I'd LOVE to have an LEO with me. I always knew it would be effective.

It works both ways. An LEO demonstrating the "destructive power" of a "weapon of war" on television sways the populace just as effectively. I guarantee you though - those libs you took shooting will now see that same video and say "That guy in an ass".


If only that worked on all people...........

www.2ampd.net/Articles/Pyle/truth.htm

Great video, BTW, and further proof that there are some very pro-RKBA and/or pro-2A police officers out there.

(I just wish they were more vocal, even vocal enough to silence the noisy brass band from the blue unions).
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 12:03:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2006 12:04:26 PM EDT by macman37]

Originally Posted By Brohawk:
Excellent!

Good job of prying their eyes open. You took the gun issue from the theoretical into the practical.

Nothing like a good dose of reality!



Technically back into the theoretical FROM the practical- he suckered them by letting them have a ton of fun and then blindsided them with logic.

brianksain, Salut! This story does my heart good.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 12:11:48 PM EDT
Good Lord....a 'peace officer' corrupting the morals of a pair of liberal gun haters....





Well Done, Old Son!!!
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 12:12:47 PM EDT
tag
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 12:18:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mcnielsen:

Originally Posted By wise_jake:
Thank you for your service, both as a LEO, and as a patriot.



That about sums it up!

Nice work!



+1.

Good job! I love reading these stories!
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 12:48:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2006 12:48:54 PM EDT by goodmedicine]
Good on you brianksain

Keep up the good work

GM
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 1:05:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2006 3:19:15 PM EDT by brianksain]
Hey they are good folks ... very worldly (they have lived all over it) but just naive about the world.

Know what I mean?

Didn't want to get too carried away but I showed them just a taste of the difference between target shooting and fighting with a gun.

They were totally amazed at the distances and short time frames a gunfight actually occurs at.

Too much TV I guess ...

It was a reciprocal day however. Canadian is a physical therapist and told me more about my upcoming shoulder surgery than my surgeon has ...
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 1:10:39 PM EDT
More importantly, did your buddy enjoy himself?
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 1:14:16 PM EDT
awsome work! keep spreading the truth!
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 1:28:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2006 1:32:02 PM EDT by brianksain]

Originally Posted By hardcase:
More importantly, did your buddy enjoy himself?



He fired six rounds total.

Had to help him hold the pistol up.

Seemed more concerned that his daughter and son-in-law were getting some decent instruction.

Taking care of his business before he bails ...

Went and ate Mexican food afterwards.

Good day for all.

EDIT:

Took him to Ft. Benning a year or so ago. He hadn't been there since '62. The same year I was born and the year he went to Nam. He was pissed that they had buses to carry the troops around. He said he ran EVERYWHERE he went when he was there ... lol

Was in MAAG ... forerunner of MACV.

Helped set up the comms stations all over the country before the war. Salty old fart.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 2:34:33 PM EDT
Excellent job showing the Libs. the real world.
Sounds like your friend being the old salty dog knew you would handle the situation. It is great the hear of cross generation friendship you have. The old salt knows he don't have much time left. I salute him and his service. And to you sir you are being more than a friend. Thank you.
When I was a LEO in a small town, I had a resident. A fellow in his 80's was in WWI as a German sniper, long story short he be came a engineer traveled the world. His kids lived other places, I would stop to check on him and drink coffee. He always wanted a "cowboy" six shooter. I found a little .22 ruger from a buddy on the force. You would have thought I just sved his only child, he broke down and crying. He went to his closet and he still had his Mauser with the biggest old scope I had ever seen. He tried to give it to me but I was able to convince him that he knew better how take care of it. I used to stop by and we would shoot cans off the back porch. I sure do miss HANS.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 6:02:43 PM EDT
Old VN pal passed Sunday.

Take 'em care babe.
Link Posted: 2/22/2006 6:06:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By brianksain:
Old VN pal passed Sunday.

Take 'em care babe.



RIP
Link Posted: 2/23/2006 10:46:14 AM EDT
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