Warning

 

Close

Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Confirm Cancel
Member Login
Posted: 1/9/2006 7:06:05 PM EDT
Is there really a point to having one if the rifle is used by civillians rather than millitary?

I was looking at this SKS following a Google search and saw it had a bayonet, and I wondered really what the point was to having one if you weren't using it in the millitary.

Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:07:11 PM EDT
close quarters self defense.........ammo DOES run out
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:08:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By deej86:
Is there really a point to having one if the rifle is used by civillians rather than millitary?

I was looking at this SKS following a Google search and saw it had a bayonet, and I wondered really what the point was to having one if you weren't using it in the millitary.




agntsa
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:08:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CRC:
close quarters self defense.........ammo DOES run out


Hmmm...makes a lot of sense.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:08:37 PM EDT
Intimidation even if you have a full magazine.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:08:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By deej86:
Is there really a point to having one if the rifle is used by civillians rather than millitary?

I was looking at this SKS following a Google search and saw it had a bayonet, and I wondered really what the point was to having one if you weren't using it in the millitary.




Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:08:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By deej86:
Is there really a point to having one if the rifle is used by civillians rather than millitary?

I was looking at this SKS following a Google search and saw it had a bayonet, and I wondered really what the point was to having one if you weren't using it in the millitary.




umm.. imagine your lost in the woods, it is cold and rainy and you REALLY want to roast marshmallows.

Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:13:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2006 7:17:05 PM EDT by FLAL1A]
(a) Rifle &/or Club &/or Spear

(b) Rifle &/or Club

Which is better?

ETA: I believe the technical term for the accouterment under discussion is "kill dagger."

ETA(2): I believe that "Bayonets Not on Rifles" are known as "knives" or "knives with no fucking handles."
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:13:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2006 7:14:46 PM EDT by fxntime]
If you are in the middle of a crowd of zombies and can't do a reload it could come in handy. With that said, I do have one correct example for each military rifle type that takes one just for non PC goodness.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:16:01 PM EDT
"Is there really a point to having one if the rifle is used by civillians rather than millitary?"

Yes.

Bayonets on rifles make liberals even more frightened and angry.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:16:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CRC:
close quarters self defense.........ammo DOES run out



That's why I got one on my pistol.

Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:16:58 PM EDT
Yep, I do it just to piss off the liberals.

And I like some of them as knives.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:19:18 PM EDT
Because Chuckles Schumer and Diane Effing Feinstein says you shouldn't have one! What more reason do you need?

--As if you needed a reason--

--And if that's not good enough, because it ramps up the eeeevil factor of even an M1 Carbine!
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:19:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2006 7:25:31 PM EDT by DriftPunch]
It's as simple as being able to buy one in the orginal configuration. It is a pretty useless feature, and in fact causes more harm than good in most cases.

5 rifles come to mind instantly when mentioning permanently attached bayonets:

1) SKS
2) M44 Mosin Nagant
3) Czech VS 52 & 52/57
4) Carcano cavalry carbine
5) Arisaka 44th year carbine

The thinking was sound in the era of bayonets being a legitimate combat tool. This obsolete thinking lasted much longer than it should have due to certain cultures love of blades (in the case of the Japanese) and the brutal battlefield spirit of others (the Soviets).
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:19:52 PM EDT
Watch the movie Zulu Dawn

At one point as the British at Isandlawhana are staring down the 'head of the Zulu buffalo' one of the troopers makes the comment that bullets can run out, spears don't.

Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:20:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Merrell:

Originally Posted By CRC:
close quarters self defense.........ammo DOES run out



That's why I got one on my pistol.



They make pistol bayonets? The only ones I have seen have been on rifles, like this SKS and a Garand that was in a pic that Rodent posted once.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:20:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2006 7:21:20 PM EDT by Cavu]

Originally Posted By deej86:
Is there really a point to having one if the rifle is used by civillians rather than millitary?




Because my rifle has lugs for one and I might need to stick somebody with it someday.

Is there really any other point necessary?


Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:21:35 PM EDT
Bayos have been around since the beginning of firearms.

Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:22:26 PM EDT
bayonets are rarely ever used in combats. Most soldiers would sooner use their rifle as a club.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:22:47 PM EDT
20% more evil.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:23:21 PM EDT
Drive-by bayonettings.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:24:07 PM EDT
A Birtish squad did a bayonet charge in Iraq.

It worked IIRC, they got scared and ran away (the enemy).

Someone else can correct and fill the details.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:25:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2006 7:26:00 PM EDT by OG10807]
Aren't bayonets (attatched to a rifle) an offensive weapon?
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:25:36 PM EDT
I've heard bayonets are good for peacekeeping crowd control
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:26:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By deej86:

Originally Posted By Merrell:

Originally Posted By CRC:
close quarters self defense.........ammo DOES run out



That's why I got one on my pistol.



They make pistol bayonets? The only ones I have seen have been on rifles, like this SKS and a Garand that was in a pic that Rodent posted once.



History & Evolution of the bayonet


The different types of bayonet existed side by side and many variations on the theme have been tried over the years - some which were practical but were never widely produced and some which were quite bizarre.

An example of the latter has to be the privately produced 1916 Pritchard pistol bayonet. Manufactured by WW Greener, this was a short brass-hilted affair utilising a cut-down French Gras bayonet blade and was meant to attach to the Webley mark IV revolver. The idea of a bayonet on a pistol was not new but was probably as ineffective in WWI as it was in the 18th Century.

Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:26:50 PM EDT
when you are walking out of the woods, you can "leave no trace" by picking up trash witout bending over.
and if your kids have "assault weapons", which normal kids would, they want to be cool and have the whole package and not some modiied fake...
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:27:12 PM EDT
Because;

1. They look cool.

2. This country doesn't/shouldn't require a need to be proved for something.

3. Because we're supposed to have by right all the terrible implements of war.

Need is a very scary prerequisite to exercising our rights.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:28:02 PM EDT
Yes, while it has a limited use, the fight is more over having the option taken away from you on ARs, and butchering classic rifles like the M1 rifle, M1 carbine, SKS, AK47, etc, etc all to please the PC police.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:56:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GoGop:
Because;

1. They look cool.

2. This country doesn't/shouldn't require a need to be proved for something.

3. Because we're supposed to have by right all the terrible implements of war.

Need is a very scary prerequisite to exercising our rights.



+Eleventeenbillion!!!
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:59:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GoGop:
Because;

1. They look cool.

2. This country doesn't/shouldn't require a need to be proved for something.

3. Because we're supposed to have by right all the terrible implements of war.

Need is a very scary prerequisite to exercising our rights.



+1 - no one needs more than 128 MB or RAM...

mandating that may actually deter hackers...
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 8:01:30 PM EDT
I use them on C%R guns to get the cosmo out, fix the bayo, use it as a stand for it in full sunlight.


Also fun just for the hell of it
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 8:05:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/11/2006 12:51:42 PM EDT by Noname]
Because they be cool...










Link Posted: 1/9/2006 8:05:35 PM EDT
And what's the point of Full power centerfire ammo for us lowly civilians, .22 rimfire would suit us just fine, and look how well it has reduced crime in England.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 8:12:31 PM EDT
Becouse I can!
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:34:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Noname:
Because they be cool...

img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/VonErnst/DSCF0278.jpg

img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/VonErnst/DSCF0283.jpg



Good looking bayonet on the K31 is that a 1914 bayonet?

Regards

ACK
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:35:59 PM EDT
it pisses off the antis
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 9:54:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
Drive-by bayonettings.




Dammit, dammit, dammit.

Somebody always beats me to it.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 10:01:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2006 10:02:56 PM EDT by Kalahnikid]

Originally Posted By GoGop:
Because;

1. They look cool.

2. This country doesn't/shouldn't require a need to be proved for something.

3. Because we're supposed to have by right all the terrible implements of war.

Need is a very scary prerequisite to exercising our rights.




Im so glad soemone brought this up. What I need is a very very scarey thought.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 11:16:42 PM EDT
Because there are some stupid people for whatever reason would assume that you wouldnt shoot them, but they might for some reason think that you would be willing to stick them.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 11:20:08 PM EDT
Hell, theres alot of reasons why you don't NEED things like a bayonet, but there aren't any reasons why I shouldn't be able to
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 11:21:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/10/2006 11:23:30 PM EDT by AKLover_91]

Originally Posted By Noname:
Because they be cool...




Is that a bayonet or a sword taped on your rifle?

But that is, quite possibly, the bitchinest bayonet EVER
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 11:36:28 PM EDT
Besides the obvious self defense reasons, if you hunt hogs in thick bush its a good idea. Really good idea if you hunt alone without dogs.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 12:41:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ACK:


Good looking bayonet on the K31 is that a 1914 bayonet?

Regards

ACK





Yep...!

One of my silly childhood desires.

www.swissrifles.com/bayonets/
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 1:13:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
Drive-by bayonettings.




Dammit, dammit, dammit.

Somebody always beats me to it.




Why do you think that is?
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 2:55:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:

Originally Posted By SteyrAUG:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
Drive-by bayonettings.




Dammit, dammit, dammit.

Somebody always beats me to it.




Why do you think that is?


Because you're very smart.
Link Posted: 1/11/2006 3:16:47 PM EDT
Top Top