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Posted: 1/9/2006 5:18:32 PM EDT
www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,181133,00.html

OAKLAND, Calif. — y weren't your ordinary thugs.

Dressed in bow ties and dark suits, nearly a dozen men carrying metal pipes entered a corner store, shattered refrigerator cases and smashed bottles of liquor, wine and beer, terrifying the clerk but stealing nothing.

The just wanted to leave a message: Stop selling alcohol to fellow Muslims.

In urban America, friction between poor residents and immigrant storeowners is nothing new. Nor are complaints that inner-city neighborhoods are glutted with markets that sell alcohol and contribute to violent crime, vagrancy and other social ills.

But the recent attack at San Pablo Liquor — and an identical vandalism spree at another West Oakland store later that evening, along with an arson fire there and the kidnapping of the owner a few days later — have injected religion into the debate.

The two episodes highlighted tensions — and different interpretations of the Koran — between black Muslims in this struggling, crime-ridden city of 400,000 and Middle Eastern shop owners, many of them also Muslims.

Six men connected to a bakery founded by a prominent black Muslim family have been arrested in the Nov. 23 attacks, which were caught on store security cameras. In both instances, the vandals asked store clerks why they were selling alcohol when it was against the Muslim faith.

One of the men arrested on charges that included hate crimes and vandalism was 19-year-old Yusuf Bey IV. His father, Yusuf Bey, a black Muslim leader who died in 2003, founded Your Black Muslim Bakery, which sells Malcolm X books along with baked goods.

The elder Bey was accused of raping young women between 1976 and 1995. The accusations were later dropped. But his organization has been lauded for providing jobs and guidance to young black men from poor communities.

The younger Bey was arrested after police identified him as one of the men in the video. The younger Bey's attorney, Lorna Brown, suggested Bey was a victim of mistaken identity. But she also said the vandalism has prompted discussions throughout the black community.

"I think it's pretty clear that the number of these stores in low-income communities is not good for people," she said.

San Pablo market owner Abdul Saleh, who has kept his store open following the attacks, said his decision to sell alcohol is "between me and God."

"We're just coming here to make a living like anyone else," he said.

While black and Middle Eastern Muslims may pray at the same mosques on weekends, their worlds do not tend to overlap beyond that, said Hatem Bazian, professor of Near East and ethnic studies at the University of California at Berkeley.

The Middle Eastern store owners tend to live in the suburbs, the black Muslims in the cities, Bazian said. The immigrant shopkeepers also interpret Islam to allow the sale of alcohol.

In the wake of the attacks, community leaders have targeted the glut of corner markets selling fortified wine, malt liquor and cheap alcohol as one of the most pressing problems in Oakland, where roughly 16 percent of families live below the poverty line.

The City Council president and the city attorney vowed to crack down on nuisance liquor stores, and recently forced a store to agree to a plan to curb drug activity on the property. Also, at a recent community meeting, Christians and Muslims pledged to work together to bring better businesses to their neighborhoods.

West Oakland, a predominantly black and poor section of the city where the vandalism took place, has 69 stores selling alcohol, 28 above the maximum number acceptable under a state standard that prescribes no more than one store for every 2,500 residents, according to anti-poverty group Urban Strategies Council.

Steve Ernst, deputy chief of the California Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control, could not immediately confirm those numbers.

But he said many of the stores were opened before the regulation was put in place more than a decade ago. And the standard can be waived if a license applicant passes muster with the state and city and there are no protests from the community.

"If there is a location that is a blight on the community, we want to work with the police and the community to address the situation," Ernst said. That can include revoking a store's liquor license.

Jamillah Smith, 33, lives in a West Oakland neighborhood close to several liquor stores and corner markets. She said that the stores are hubs for drug dealing and violence and that drunks often urinate on the walls of the markets.

Smith said she has been afraid to let her children, ages 10, 12 and 14, walk near the shops ever since a man was shot in front of a market. But she does not own a car and occasionally buys essentials at the stores.

"If I had known it was like this I would have never moved over here," she said, adding that the markets should sell more fresh foods.

Mohamed Saleh Mohamed, president of the Yemeni American Grocers Association, which represents 250 to 300 Oakland merchants, said that before Middle Eastern immigrants started buying corner stores in the early 1980s, they offered nothing but alcohol. The merchants expanded and began to sell more produce and other food, he said.

"We're the easiest targets for community blame," he said.

Link Posted: 1/9/2006 5:21:11 PM EDT
Dupe
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 5:21:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2006 5:23:02 PM EDT by CS223]
Did a search under Muslim and it didn't come up. People need to keep the titles as close to the original as possible.......
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 5:22:16 PM EDT
I'm shocked...

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oh wait, no I'm not
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 5:23:25 PM EDT
Drinking is wrong, and Allah forbids it! Destruction of property on the other hand...
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 5:24:23 PM EDT
Now they've gone too far! Get the pickups boys!
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 5:25:31 PM EDT
It makes perfect sense to me..
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 5:25:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2006 5:26:40 PM EDT by Paul]
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 5:26:50 PM EDT
but it's not possible!?!?!?!? it's the religion of peace. this sort of thing never happens!


Link Posted: 1/9/2006 5:28:44 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 5:33:11 PM EDT
It has begun.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 5:36:24 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:43:07 PM EDT
Well, hey, at least they didn't ROB the place like certain other ethnic groups are wont to do.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:45:12 PM EDT
I hope they try this shit in Korean owned stores.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:48:05 PM EDT
Guess they are wanting a France repeat, but unlike France we all have guns.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 8:00:52 PM EDT
Dang ROPers.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 8:16:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2006 8:17:27 PM EDT by thedoctors308]
Are these Muslims or Nation of Islam?
The suits and bow ties sounds like NOI.
For those who don't know, NOI is not recognized by other Muslims as legit.
Islam totally rejects the idea of racial superiority that NOI puts forth.
In addition, most Muslims think the NOI is a bunch of fuckin' loony tunes.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 9:16:39 PM EDT
It'd be fantastically funny if someone got a group together and went in and busted up that Your Black Muslim Bakery store "because they sell food which is not prepared according to Jewish dietery law"....
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Link Posted: 1/9/2006 9:21:38 PM EDT
Oh man, all the gang members are going to be mad that they smashed the bottles of 40 oz. malt liquor!
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 9:24:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By cnow:
It has begun.




Yup. I was wondering how long it would take. Eventually we'll start seeing the sex assaults on women and girls not wearing burkas and head scarves - like in Australia, Norway, and Sweden.


-K
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 11:23:47 PM EDT
Yes, drinking is bad. It makes you do violent things, like walk into liquor stores and vandalize...
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 11:34:02 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 11:39:50 PM EDT
I am surprised those muslim bastards didn't get shot.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 11:46:24 PM EDT
So let me get this straight. A bunch of guys with metal pipes go into a liquor store and smash the place up, and it is the fault of "nusence liquor stores"?

Um... wait...um...

I don't get it
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 11:55:55 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 12:17:44 AM EDT
Anyone up for a Group buy for a liquour store
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 12:25:26 AM EDT
Proof that we do not descriminate against peaceful muslims enough; time to bring out the police dogs and waterhoses, burn a few of them alive and hang from oak trees.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 12:26:01 AM EDT
Where's that Korean guy with the SKS? He should be like Batman. Every liquor store should have a call signal for him and when there's trouble.... blam!!blam!!blam!!blam!!
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 12:27:14 AM EDT
Breaking news!

Link Posted: 1/10/2006 12:42:53 AM EDT
If those so called "muslims" wanted to make a statement, why weren't they asking the other "muslims" why they were buying alcohol in the first place rather than taking it out on the store owners, but then they'd probably face payback from within their own "muslim" community. It's easier to terrorise the store owners than deal their own "muslim brothers" who are buying the alcohol. It's not like the store owners can ask to see some sort of religious affiliation card before they take the money and make the sale.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 12:59:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Special-K:

Originally Posted By cnow:
It has begun.




Yup. I was wondering how long it would take. Eventually we'll start seeing the sex assaults on women and girls not wearing burkas and head scarves - like in Australia, Norway, and Sweden.


-K



They try Rape in Virginia and you can shoot them, no questions asked and not any CA will touch you.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 1:00:02 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 1:07:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Big_Bear:

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
Are these Muslims or Nation of Islam?
The suits and bow ties sounds like NOI.
For those who don't know, NOI is not recognized by other Muslims as legit.
Islam totally rejects the idea of racial superiority that NOI puts forth.
In addition, most Muslims think the NOI is a bunch of fuckin' loony tunes.


Nation of Islam. Black Muslims. Louis Farrakhan's sect.

They're about as "Muslim" as Christian Identity is "Christian."



+1

my question is; why weren't those that demand the supply targeted? NOI believes in free will, right?
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 3:24:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By HillBillySasquatch:

Originally Posted By Big_Bear:

Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
Are these Muslims or Nation of Islam?
The suits and bow ties sounds like NOI.
For those who don't know, NOI is not recognized by other Muslims as legit.
Islam totally rejects the idea of racial superiority that NOI puts forth.
In addition, most Muslims think the NOI is a bunch of fuckin' loony tunes.


Nation of Islam. Black Muslims. Louis Farrakhan's sect.

They're about as "Muslim" as Christian Identity is "Christian."



+1

my question is; why weren't those that demand the supply targeted? NOI believes in free will, right?



I thought they believed the white man was the source of all bad in the world.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 3:59:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By eodtech2000:
Anyone up for a Group buy for a liquour store

Sorry buddy, but hunting a baited field isnt legal in most states.

Kharn
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