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Posted: 1/9/2006 12:34:06 PM EDT
All I can say is F^&%!!!!! Why do we continue to idolize these misfits????

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10777702/


Marcus Vick arrested for alleged gun incident
Quarterback was dismissed by Virginia Tech last week for series of troubles
NBCSports.com news services
Updated: 3:55 p.m. ET Jan. 9, 2006

Former Virginia Tech quarterback Marcus Vick turned himself into the Magistrate's Office in Suffolk Monday afternoon, after three warrants were issued for his arrest.

Vick is accused by three individuals of brandishing a firearm at them Sunday night. Two of the victims are adults and one is a 17-year-old.

On Friday, Vick was dismissed from Virginia Tech for his unsportsmanlike conduct during the second quarter of the Gator Bowl on Jan. 2.

It was also disclosed Friday that Vick had been stopped for speeding and driving with a revoked or suspended license on Dec. 17. Vick's license was taken away in August 2004 when he was cited for reckless driving and marijuana possession.

Vick decided to turn pro Saturday, one day after he was kicked off the Virginia Tech team for transgressions on and off the field.

“I have decided to enter the NFL draft,” the junior quarterback said in a statement released through his lawyers. “I am very excited about this opportunity and look forward to proving my athletic ability at the professional level. I believe I am ready for this challenge and the next chapter of my life.”

Vick said he appreciated the trust Virginia Tech coach Frank Beamer placed in him during his stay at Virginia Tech, and said “I deeply regret that I allowed my competitive emotions to take control” in the Gator Bowl.

“To all of the Virginia Tech community, I sincerely apologize.”

Virginia Tech cited the cumulative effects of Vick’s legal problems and his unsportsmanlike conduct in the Jan. 2 bowl in dismissing him from the team Friday.

During the game, he was caught on tape stomping on the left calf of Louisville All-American defensive end Elvis Dumervil after a tackle. Vick claimed it was an accident, but school officials said Saturday they thought it looked intentional.

“We have received hundreds of letters from fans and alumni who are disturbed by what they saw,” university president Charles Steger said at a Saturday news conference.

Beamer, who delivered the news of the dismissal to Vick and his mother in person, said he did not advise Vick on whether or not to turn pro, but told him during their meeting Friday that he would help him in any way he could when Vick made his decision.

The dismissal hit Vick’s mother, Brenda Boddie, hard.

“I cried a lot yesterday,” she said in a phone interview with The Associated Press. “But we’re just going to move on and make something positive out of this and Marcus is going to show everybody that he’s not the person a lot of people claim he is.”

She agreed that her son “did the wrong thing” and said she understood why Tech dismissed him, but said she resents seeing her son portrayed as a “monster.”

Looking ashen, Beamer said he, Steger and Weaver agreed once all the evidence was in that the outcome had to be dismissal, but that made it no less disappointing.

“When I go into a home and talk about how I’m going to do my best to make everything at Virginia Tech turn out successful and be good and then it doesn’t reach that — it’s disappointing to me as a coach,” the 19-year veteran coach said.

“I can tell you he’s deeply hurt, he’s deeply saddened. I can assure you this kid is very, very hurt, his mom is very, very hurt and I’m hurting with them.”

Vick was suspended from school in 2004 because of several legal problems, and came under intense scrutiny again because of replays of his actions against Dumervil. Vick claimed it was accidental, but hurt his cause by claiming to have apologized to Dumervil, the NCAA sacks leader. Dumervil said he received no such apology.

The last straw came Friday, even as Beamer was preparing to visit Vick and offer him the options of accepting a two-game suspension or deciding to leave Virginia Tech.

A fax sent to Steger’s office disclosed that Vick had been stopped for driving 38 mph in a 25 mph zone and driving with a revoked or suspended license on Dec. 17. Vick had told Beamer about the ticket for driving on a suspended license on Dec. 19, Beamer said, but had never mentioned to anyone that he’d also been caught speeding.

Vick’s license had been taken away in August 2004 when he was cited for reckless driving and marijuana possession, but had been reinstated until a friend driving a car owned by Vick was pulled over and found to not have insurance, Beamer said.

Vick received a citation as the car owner, but an investigation by the school revealed that getting his license reinstated was merely a formality, Beamer was told.

Vick entered this season trying to win his team’s trust and knowing he would face hostility from opposing fans, mostly stemming from his drug arrest and another conviction for serving alcohol to underage girls during the 2003 school year.

He said he was ready for anything, but reacted to chants of “rapist!” and “child molester!” at West Virginia on Oct. 1 by gesturing obscenely toward the crowd. He met with Beamer afterward and apologized to the team and to Mountaineers fans.

Vick was the runner-up to Wake Forest’s Chris Barclay, by one vote, as the Atlantic Coast Conference’s offensive player of the year, and was the league’s first-team quarterback.

In 24 career games, the 6-foot, 212-pound Vick threw for 2,868 yards, 19 touchdowns and 15 interceptions. He also ran 184 times for 492 yards and six TDs.



WTF???? He'll probably make $1M+ next year. He should be serving lunch in the prison cafeteria for $0.08 a day.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:40:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thompsondd:
All I can say is F^&%!!!!! Why do we continue to idolize these misfits????

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10777702/


Marcus Vick arrested for alleged gun incident
Quarterback was dismissed by Virginia Tech last week for series of troubles
NBCSports.com news services
Updated: 3:55 p.m. ET Jan. 9, 2006

Former Virginia Tech quarterback Marcus Vick turned himself into the Magistrate's Office in Suffolk Monday afternoon, after three warrants were issued for his arrest.

Vick is accused by three individuals of brandishing a firearm at them Sunday night. Two of the victims are adults and one is a 17-year-old.

On Friday, Vick was dismissed from Virginia Tech for his unsportsmanlike conduct during the second quarter of the Gator Bowl on Jan. 2.

It was also disclosed Friday that Vick had been stopped for speeding and driving with a revoked or suspended license on Dec. 17. Vick's license was taken away in August 2004 when he was cited for reckless driving and marijuana possession.

Vick decided to turn pro Saturday, one day after he was kicked off the Virginia Tech team for transgressions on and off the field.

“I have decided to enter the NFL draft,” the junior quarterback said in a statement released through his lawyers. “I am very excited about this opportunity and look forward to proving my athletic ability at the professional level. I believe I am ready for this challenge and the next chapter of my life.”

Vick said he appreciated the trust Virginia Tech coach Frank Beamer placed in him during his stay at Virginia Tech, and said “I deeply regret that I allowed my competitive emotions to take control” in the Gator Bowl.

“To all of the Virginia Tech community, I sincerely apologize.”

Virginia Tech cited the cumulative effects of Vick’s legal problems and his unsportsmanlike conduct in the Jan. 2 bowl in dismissing him from the team Friday.

During the game, he was caught on tape stomping on the left calf of Louisville All-American defensive end Elvis Dumervil after a tackle. Vick claimed it was an accident, but school officials said Saturday they thought it looked intentional.

“We have received hundreds of letters from fans and alumni who are disturbed by what they saw,” university president Charles Steger said at a Saturday news conference.

Beamer, who delivered the news of the dismissal to Vick and his mother in person, said he did not advise Vick on whether or not to turn pro, but told him during their meeting Friday that he would help him in any way he could when Vick made his decision.

The dismissal hit Vick’s mother, Brenda Boddie, hard.

“I cried a lot yesterday,” she said in a phone interview with The Associated Press. “But we’re just going to move on and make something positive out of this and Marcus is going to show everybody that he’s not the person a lot of people claim he is.”

She agreed that her son “did the wrong thing” and said she understood why Tech dismissed him, but said she resents seeing her son portrayed as a “monster.”

Looking ashen, Beamer said he, Steger and Weaver agreed once all the evidence was in that the outcome had to be dismissal, but that made it no less disappointing.

“When I go into a home and talk about how I’m going to do my best to make everything at Virginia Tech turn out successful and be good and then it doesn’t reach that — it’s disappointing to me as a coach,” the 19-year veteran coach said.

“I can tell you he’s deeply hurt, he’s deeply saddened. I can assure you this kid is very, very hurt, his mom is very, very hurt and I’m hurting with them.”

Vick was suspended from school in 2004 because of several legal problems, and came under intense scrutiny again because of replays of his actions against Dumervil. Vick claimed it was accidental, but hurt his cause by claiming to have apologized to Dumervil, the NCAA sacks leader. Dumervil said he received no such apology.

The last straw came Friday, even as Beamer was preparing to visit Vick and offer him the options of accepting a two-game suspension or deciding to leave Virginia Tech.

A fax sent to Steger’s office disclosed that Vick had been stopped for driving 38 mph in a 25 mph zone and driving with a revoked or suspended license on Dec. 17. Vick had told Beamer about the ticket for driving on a suspended license on Dec. 19, Beamer said, but had never mentioned to anyone that he’d also been caught speeding.

Vick’s license had been taken away in August 2004 when he was cited for reckless driving and marijuana possession, but had been reinstated until a friend driving a car owned by Vick was pulled over and found to not have insurance, Beamer said.

Vick received a citation as the car owner, but an investigation by the school revealed that getting his license reinstated was merely a formality, Beamer was told.

Vick entered this season trying to win his team’s trust and knowing he would face hostility from opposing fans, mostly stemming from his drug arrest and another conviction for serving alcohol to underage girls during the 2003 school year.

He said he was ready for anything, but reacted to chants of “rapist!” and “child molester!” at West Virginia on Oct. 1 by gesturing obscenely toward the crowd. He met with Beamer afterward and apologized to the team and to Mountaineers fans.

Vick was the runner-up to Wake Forest’s Chris Barclay, by one vote, as the Atlantic Coast Conference’s offensive player of the year, and was the league’s first-team quarterback.

In 24 career games, the 6-foot, 212-pound Vick threw for 2,868 yards, 19 touchdowns and 15 interceptions. He also ran 184 times for 492 yards and six TDs.



WTF???? He'll probably make $1M+ next year. He should be serving lunch in the prison cafeteria for $0.08 a day.




...or at least locked in a room with some samsonite suitcases.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:45:01 PM EDT
The poor people need to see these people so they can think "No matter how much I screw up, I can still become a very important and respected individual. No need to stop screwing up then."

That's why they're idolized. They're a ray of hope to a lost culture.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:47:45 PM EDT
been talking about it this morning on ESPN radio. That guys is a tool. I just don't understand people sometimes... all the talent in the world pissed away. STUPID.

~Dg84
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:50:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/9/2006 12:50:49 PM EDT by fight4yourrights]

Originally Posted By thompsondd:


All I can say is F^&%!!!!! Why do we continue to idolize these misfits????




BREAD & CIRCUSES. BREAD & CIRCUSES.



Link Posted: 1/9/2006 12:52:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thompsondd:
WTF???? He'll probably make $1M+ next year. He should be serving lunch in the prison cafeteria for $0.08 a day.


He is accused. Not convicted. Until then he has the presumption of innocence working on his behalf. He has been charged, but bail has to be reasonable for the crime reported to have been commited and cannot be punitive in nature. It is intended to ensure the defendants return to court. Given his notoriety, I doubt very much this guy has anything to gain by running. Also, he will most likely serve local time and not State time, so he wouldn't be able to work in the kitchen while on an unsentenced status, and I dont know any local facility that pays their trustys to work.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 1:03:44 PM EDT
Who is going to draft a guy with that kind of a track record? Given his rap sheet is longer than his football resume, I think he's headed down the Maurice Clarett path....

Thank Heaven Virginia Tech disowned that fool...
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 1:05:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By tc556guy:

Originally Posted By thompsondd:
WTF???? He'll probably make $1M+ next year. He should be serving lunch in the prison cafeteria for $0.08 a day.


He is accused. Not convicted. Until then he has the presumption of innocence working on his behalf. He has been charged, but bail has to be reasonable for the crime reported to have been commited and cannot be punitive in nature. It is intended to ensure the defendants return to court. Given his notoriety, I doubt very much this guy has anything to gain by running. Also, he will most likely serve local time and not State time, so he wouldn't be able to work in the kitchen while on an unsentenced status, and I dont know any local facility that pays their trustys to work.



He's still a fucking dirtbag, did you see the replays on ESPN?
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 1:07:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By RichinCM:
Who is going to draft a guy with that kind of a track record? Given his rap sheet is longer than his football resume, I think he's headed down the Maurice Clarett path....

Thank Heaven Virginia Tech disowned that fool...



I 100% guaran-damn-tee he will get drafted. Even Clarett was drafted.

I'm not saying he should though, but it just doesn't matter in the business of sport. People don't care as long and they make bank.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 1:11:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fiend:
He's still a fucking dirtbag, did you see the replays on ESPN?


No.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 7:54:14 PM EDT

It was also disclosed Friday that Vick had been stopped for speeding and driving with a revoked or suspended license on Dec. 17. - Why the hell was this guy playing in the bowl game? Why was he even dressed out? Why did he even make the trip?


Originally Posted By tc556guy:
He is accused. Not convicted. Until then he has the presumption of innocence working on his behalf. He has been charged, but bail has to be reasonable for the crime reported to have been commited and cannot be punitive in nature. It is intended to ensure the defendants return to court. Given his notoriety, I doubt very much this guy has anything to gain by running. Also, he will most likely serve local time and not State time, so he wouldn't be able to work in the kitchen while on an unsentenced status, and I dont know any local facility that pays their trustys to work.



Vick's license was taken away in August 2004 when he was cited for reckless driving and marijuana possession. - Yeap, sounds 'accused' to me. They always take your license away when your only accused.
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 8:04:26 PM EDT
I hate DUPERs, too!!

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=426022



He had THREE chances in college to not be a fuckup. (Whoa, almost sounds like me!! )
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 3:46:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By JustinOK34:
I hate DUPERs, too!!

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=426022



He had THREE chances in college to not be a fuckup. (Whoa, almost sounds like me!! )



Is that would be why your thread was posted 2 hours after this one?
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 10:22:15 AM EDT
LOL, sorry!

Yours seemed to have fallen off the radar scope for a little bit.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 10:25:41 AM EDT
Well, obviously, we as a village have failed this poor man.





Woody
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 12:56:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thompsondd:
Vick's license was taken away in August 2004 when he was cited for reckless driving and marijuana possession. - Yeap, sounds 'accused' to me. They always take your license away when your only accused.



"Vick is accused by three individuals of brandishing a firearm at them Sunday night. Two of the victims are adults and one is a 17-year-old."

He is accused of the above. The other stuff is relatively minor stuff that is/was tacked on and certainly is nothing he'd be going to "prison" for.
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 1:12:11 PM EDT
Maybe him and Todd Marijuanavich can get a gig togather on VH1's the surreal life with all the other has beens?
Link Posted: 1/10/2006 4:47:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By NovaHokie9:

Originally Posted By RichinCM:
Who is going to draft a guy with that kind of a track record? Given his rap sheet is longer than his football resume, I think he's headed down the Maurice Clarett path....

Thank Heaven Virginia Tech disowned that fool...



I 100% guaran-damn-tee he will get drafted. Even Clarett was drafted.

I'm not saying he should though, but it just doesn't matter in the business of sport. People don't care as long and they make bank.



Getting drafted is one thing making a team and getting paid are another. I expect if he gets a contract it will have a lot of provisos that he stay out of trouble.

The problem isn't limited to the culture, it's that these children get told from a very young age how special they are and nobody ever applies discipline, so by the time they get to college they believe they are above the law.
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