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Posted: 1/8/2006 7:31:24 PM EDT
I'm trying to decide on a small pocket pistol for a back up to my Para Ord C7.45. I was looking at a NAA Guardian .380 at the gunshop and I think along those lines. Any thoughts or better ways to go...I don't want to go any smaller caliber wise.
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Request that picture of all of the pocket guns side by side in one picture. Very informative.
I personally carry a Kahr PM9 in 9mm. It is very close to the size and shape of the NAA. |
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You thought about a snub nose revolver in an ankle holster as a backup?
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i've heard the guardian's weigh way too much to carry. YMMV - but feel how heavy it is b4 buying. |
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I sometimes carry a Walther PPKs. Its good for some people, not for others, depending on your grip. Sometimes it will tear at the web of your hand. Shoot one before buying.
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My favorite pocket pistol right now is a Star Model SS in .380.
Little miniature 1911 looking thing, although the internals are quite a bit different. I'm working a pretty "beatup" one I got for cheap into a backup. It came pretty rusted and dinged, so I stripped the bluing, checkered the frontstrap, grooved the rear of the grip, made some grips, and I'm going to have nightsites put on it. It will be finished in Norrell's moly resin shortly. The nice thing about it is that its a locked breach design, so its very narrow and thin, yet strong enough to handle CORBONs all day long. It holds 8 in the mag + one in the pipe. Recoil is less than a blowback 380 like a PPK/s or Sig 232 or the similar. |
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It's a good little pistol. Thin and light. Decent sights. I don't care for the European-type mag release. |
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naa .22 mag revolver in a condom, kept in the colon.
hows that for deep concealment? |
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Redefines "squeezing one off". |
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I carry my PPK/s every day. S&W fixed the hand-bite problem by lenghthening the tang. I had the Interarms PPK/s and sold it because it bit back...this one is perfect. HH |
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screw that, I want to have the quickest access to my peice. A mugger will usually say "give me whats in your pockets" which gives you a chance to grab your peice and defend yourself. Unless they start saying, give my whats on your ankle, I'll pass. |
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Uh it's a BACK UP. That is what your primary carry gun is for. |
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I think he was asking for a backup gun ,so that would mean something to fall back on if his Para broke or ran out of ammo.If he needed his backup gun, he would have probably already been in the shit so going for his other gun would be about his only other choice. |
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Colt goverment .380.
Its a half size 1911 thats proportional to a fullsize 1911 in .380. Its the only colt I own and I wouldnt trade it for the world. Its a kitten to shoot and pack a lot of punch in a tiny stainless package. The govts and mustangs go for $1200 if you're not careful. I walked into mine for $90. |
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... I'm in SoCal right now
... I cannot stand the fact that I can't carry legally ... I just flew my G/F home and she never even realized my nervousness about this but nevertheless, it sucks ... Who knows, I may become an outlaw some day after all |
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I know hes looking for a backup, but if your gonna carry one it might as well be a pocket piece. After living in the slums I've realized the importance of pocket guns, infact these days I consider my G19 the back up for my P32. |
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Yeah but the draw would be a bitch though |
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I'm torn between the Kahr P40 and the Kahr P45, they have the same capacity (6+1). The .45 is slightly thicker than the .40.
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I dont know about you but I can fit a snub nose revolver in my pocket. Infact I do a ruger sp101 in a uncle mikes sidekick. |
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That is the exact setup that I carry and it works for perfectly for me. The Guardian is a great backup pistol. The only other pistol you might want to look at is the KelTec .380 as it has a polymer frame and is a little bit lighter to carry. I carry my Guardian is a left handed rear pocket holster, which offsets the Para that I carry on my strong side. |
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The wifez0r has a Kahr PM9...wonderful little gun...and very little indeed. For my backup, I've got a NAA Guardian in .380 (made by Kahr). For jeans front-pocket carry with one of those wee little pocket holsters, I totally forget it's there all day long. For dress pants, the pocket moves a little, but still no problems. It's not as light as the Kel-tec..no doubt. But I'm quite pleased with the NAA. I haven't had any stoppages with either the Kahr or the NAA so far.
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I was thinking about a pocket holster....after watching a guy get his dental work kicked out reaching for a ankle holster it kind of turned me off on them. |
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I forgot about the P232...I'll have to look at it again ...thx |
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Not the ankle holster...but I really like the S&W 640 I had. I'm waitting for my 686 2inch to come back from customization....But it's goin to be the backup for the Para if something screws up on it for some reason. I'm a freak and like to have two of everything...just in case |
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I can fit my .38 in the pocket, but ctprelude was talking about an ankle holster setup |
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Loved my Kahr MK9 except the weight. Now I really like my SW 642...but only as a second gun.
My wife's P-9 is crazy light. The SW is smaller and thinner except the wheel...but that is less than two inches. Personally I think the gun and holter looks less obvious in my front pockets than my kahr looked. |
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A friend of mine has a two shot, .44 magnum derringer that he carries loose (uncocked) in his pocket. I don't know how many shots you'll think you need, but I think it's pretty nifty.
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they make 45-70 derringers too, but they might be a little too rough on the hands. |
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To bad I like to shot what I carry [and everything else]......44mag derringers are out. |
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I like to shoot his. I once shredded a target with the muzzle blast alone. I have a little extra padding on the hands, and everywhere else for that matter, though. The recoil really doesn't bother me much. |
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Well Big_Louie...you way tougher then me. |
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Someone with brains wrote the above. |
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Not tougher, just fatter. Built-in recoil pads. |
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Kahr PM9---good, but pricey
Kel-tec .380---good Bersa thunder .380---good, $200 |
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Personally, I think the 230/232 is a little large and heavy for a pocket pistol. For me, "pocket" implies carried holsterless, in the pocket. Don't get me wrong, I have two SIGs and would love to justify a P232, but the KelTecs are light and much more compact. And cheap enough to throw in a river if necessary. |
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I just bought a Kahr K40 and it's a cool little gun.
Not a single malfunction including my 200 round break-in period |
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for an actual POCKET pistol, it'll be hard to beat the kel-tec p380...
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I must ask: What mode of dress are you in where the pictured S&W revolver would be too "bulky"? A thong? I have yet to see an adult male or even an adult female that could not conceal a S&W 442 easily in even fairly tight summer dress. |
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It's a bit too big for a pocket piece, in my opinion. Plus you are stuck with the .380 cartridge, which frankly is underpowered. |
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