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Posted: 1/3/2006 8:02:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/3/2006 8:03:09 AM EDT by Lockedon]
I might have a chance to pick up one of those springfield armory mil-spec 1911-a1 today. what is the general consensus on them?
Thanks
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 8:04:49 AM EDT
I love mine ! Several hundred rouonds through it with nary a problem.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 8:09:35 AM EDT
They make a very good base gun. I would replace the extractor with a Wilson bullet-proof just to be safe, as SA extractors seem to have a fairly high failure rate.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 8:10:17 AM EDT
I've got one - it's a very reliable 1911 (from Brazil).
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 8:11:21 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ktrout01:
I love mine ! Several hundred rouonds through it with nary a problem.



Same here, except I've put thousands of rounds through mine. I like it a lot.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 8:13:17 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ChiefPilot:

Originally Posted By ktrout01:
I love mine ! Several hundred rouonds through it with nary a problem.



Same here, except I've put thousands of rounds through mine. I like it a lot.



I'm working on it ! My .45 dies should be here from Dillion any day so I can get reloading all the .45 brass I have. I have a couple other .45s and have been saving brass for a couple years so I've got plenty of work to do.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 8:21:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/3/2006 8:21:51 AM EDT by California_Kid]
Mine has gone through tens of thousands of rounds with zero failures. If I had to choose just one firearm to be my sole defensive weapon, it would be that.

It was a little tight when it was brand new, but wore in nicely.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 8:22:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Lockedon:
I might have a chance to pick up one of those springfield armory mil-spec 1911-a1 today. what is the general consensus on them?
Thanks



I love them. I have the GI model and my brother has the milspec... great guns.

I like them they way they are, but they are good base guns for a custom job if you are into that sort of thing.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 8:24:12 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ChiefPilot:

Originally Posted By ktrout01:
I love mine ! Several hundred rouonds through it with nary a problem.



Same here, except I've put thousands of rounds through mine. I like it a lot.



Yep! I've had mine for many years now - I love it.

When I first got it I experienced several FTF malfunctions so I had the barrel throated, after that it has performed flawlessly for the last several thousand rounds.

The only malfunctions I have now are do to improperly reloaded cartridges - my fault....
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 8:25:01 AM EDT
Get it! You will love it.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 8:25:55 AM EDT
Made in Brazil


Get a Colt
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 8:28:53 AM EDT
Anyone tried the new Taurus 1911?
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 8:38:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By dpmmn:
Made in Brazil


Get a Colt



come on and drink the kool aid! Its rather tasty..


Link Posted: 1/3/2006 8:47:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By dskeet:

Originally Posted By Lockedon:
I might have a chance to pick up one of those springfield armory mil-spec 1911-a1 today. what is the general consensus on them?
Thanks



I love them. I have the GI model and my brother has the milspec... great guns.

I like them they way they are, but they are good base guns for a custom job if you are into that sort of thing.




hmmm what's the difference between the GI model and the Milspec? come to think of it, I'm not sure which it is....
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 8:49:12 AM EDT
Mine has been great. Nice base gun for the money. You can go as far as you want with it. Go for it.

Link Posted: 1/3/2006 10:23:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Lockedon:

Originally Posted By dskeet:

Originally Posted By Lockedon:
I might have a chance to pick up one of those springfield armory mil-spec 1911-a1 today. what is the general consensus on them?
Thanks



I love them. I have the GI model and my brother has the milspec... great guns.

I like them they way they are, but they are good base guns for a custom job if you are into that sort of thing.




hmmm what's the difference between the GI model and the Milspec? come to think of it, I'm not sure which it is....





The mil spec model has raised three dot sights and lowered ejection port. The GI model has the govt issue type sights and a standard ejection port
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 10:26:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Dolomite:
I've got one - it's a very reliable 1911 (from Brazil).


From what I understand it is made by Imbel, the same company that makes the FAL clones.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 12:22:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By warlord:

Originally Posted By Dolomite:
I've got one - it's a very reliable 1911 (from Brazil).


From what I understand it is made by Imbel, the same company that makes the FAL clones.



Yup. The frames are forged by Imbel, but almost all of the machining (slide rails, pin holes) are done in the US. If any machining is done in Brazil, the guys will have "FI Brazil" somewhere on the frame, perhaps under the grip panels. The sole exception are the SA Custom Shop guns, IIRC, which are all made in the US.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 12:30:25 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 12:42:05 PM EDT
My mil-spec has an NM serial # , ipc. bbl. and is a very good shooter, it is made in the USA. my loaded lt. wt. has 2pc. bbl and is made in Brazil, also a good pistol, but not as tight as the mil-spec.
The N.M. frame guns are all machined in the US, and have a SS bbl and bushing.Look for one if you are buying.....
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 12:50:46 PM EDT
Polish the breach face and feed ramp just in case. I had a few problems with one of mine and that fixed it.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 1:55:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/3/2006 1:59:23 PM EDT by Ralph]
Bought one used, for $375 OTD, Runs flawlessly, I replaced the extractor with a Wilson, and replaced the slide stop and firing pin and stop, and bbl bushing with Brown parts..(trying to cut down on the MIM parts)The parts I replaced were replaced because I feel these parts are higher quality than stock, Still runs flawlessly, no failures to feed, fire, eject. pistol now has about 800 rounds on it since I've owned it, shoots to POA what more can you ask for? this is a NM prefixed pistol with a stainless bbl, Trigger pull is'nt bad either. The only piece of advice I can give you is BUY IT! if it has the plastic grips on it, trash them as they will sooner or later crack, The best thing to do with them is to replace them right off the bat. It only took a couple hundred rounds of shooting to get one of the grips to crack...They are junk. But, that's easily, fixed.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 2:00:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/3/2006 2:03:29 PM EDT by AcidGambit]
Good base gun for a custom job... Sights suck, trigger sucks, trigger fit sucks, extractor is a POS, I've seen just awful barrel lug fits. You get what you pay for.

Oh yea, the roll marks suck.
No firing pin safety +100 !

ETA: I use Colt Series-70, love the roll marks, barrel lug fit is good. Sights suck, trigger sucks, trigger fit sucks. Colt uses really good sears though.
Oh yea, the extractor sucks and the firing pin stop fit is for shit.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 2:06:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AcidGambit:
Good base gun for a custom job... Sights suck, trigger sucks, trigger fit sucks, extractor is a POS, I've seen just awful barrel lug fits. You get what you pay for.

Oh yea, the roll marks suck.
No firing pin safety +100 !

ETA: I use Colt Series-70, love the roll marks, barrel lug fit is good. Sights suck, trigger sucks, trigger fit sucks. Colt uses really good sears though.
Oh yea, the extractor sucks and the firing pin stop fit is for shit.



my 70 series trigger is awesome.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 2:11:55 PM EDT
I had a SA Mil-spec and it was completely reliable.

However, I really HATED shooting it.

I have large hands and the standard profile grip safety would dig into the web of my hand with every shot. I sold it and bought a Kimber Custom II with a nice beavertail grip safety. It's night and day how much of a difference that makes.


Link Posted: 1/3/2006 2:29:09 PM EDT
Imbel I mean SA makes nice 1911's
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 12:36:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By dskeet:

Originally Posted By Lockedon:
I might have a chance to pick up one of those springfield armory mil-spec 1911-a1 today. what is the general consensus on them?
Thanks



I love them. I have the GI model and my brother has the milspec... great guns.

I like them they way they are, but they are good base guns for a custom job if you are into that sort of thing.



Brother checking in. One of my favorite handguns.
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 2:03:04 PM EDT
I bought a new NM serialed SA MilSpec for $399 in 2002. It has NO mention of Brazil anywhere on it - and I've detail stripped it a time or two.

I estimate about 3000 rounds through it with no problems at all. It shoots a few inches low - apparently they all do. I just use a 12 o'clock hold @ 25 yards.

They carry a lifetime warranty - SA would put a new front sight on it for free - I just haven't got around to it.
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 2:03:39 PM EDT
I bought a new NM serialed SA MilSpec for $399 in 2002. It has NO mention of Brazil anywhere on it - and I've detail stripped it a time or two.

I estimate about 3000 rounds through it with no problems at all. It shoots a few inches low - apparently they all do. I just use a 12 o'clock hold @ 25 yards.

They carry a lifetime warranty - SA would put a new front sight on it for free - I just haven't got around to it.
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 2:18:17 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 2:53:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By zanthope:
I bought a new NM serialed SA MilSpec for $399 in 2002. It has NO mention of Brazil anywhere on it - and I've detail stripped it a time or two.




Imbel = Brazil
I had an American made SA 1911, it was a piece of shit.
Even SA could not fix it.
I sold it for junk.

This 1911-A1 is perfect.
Feeds everything I put in it, goes bang when I pull the trigger.
This last weekend it was firing in the rain with no problems.
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 2:57:50 PM EDT
They are fine right up until you pick up a REAL USGI one, then, well...........pah. Dump the MIM extractor, and the slide stop and shoot it. They are OK but full of MIM. Not all that impressed with mine.
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 3:01:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fxntime:
They are fine right up until you pick up a REAL USGI one, then, well...........pah. Dump the MIM extractor, and the slide stop and shoot it. They are OK but full of MIM. Not all that impressed with mine.



And where do you buy a "real" USGI one for under $400?
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 3:10:11 PM EDT
Play with it for awhile then send it to Yost-Bonitz for one of their 1* treatments. Beat deal there is for a reasonable customized piece. Feel free to IM me with any questions.
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 3:48:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/4/2006 3:54:32 PM EDT by fxntime]

Originally Posted By KA3B:

Originally Posted By fxntime:
They are fine right up until you pick up a REAL USGI one, then, well...........pah. Dump the MIM extractor, and the slide stop and shoot it. They are OK but full of MIM. Not all that impressed with mine.



And where do you buy a "real" USGI one for under $400?



I've picked up a few for that amount, to include two matching SN#frame and slide 1941 Colts. One is sadly lacking in finish but it still shoots quite a lot better then people were led to believe that they were capable of. I might have better things to say if the several I owned [bought from new, I might add] were reliable, but every one I owned was nowhere close to what I would call reliable. I do not like the corners they cut to include 2 piece BBLs, they work OK but I doubt most would like a 2 piece BBL on their AR. I will be the first to say that they make an excellent build up piece and that the forging seems to be first rate. However, almost all the other parts are MIM.
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 4:22:09 PM EDT
The GI model chews up brass badly. Can't remember if the Mil Spec shares the standard, non lowered ejection port. Avoid that if you want to reload.
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 4:37:45 PM EDT
I love my Mil-spec.

Link Posted: 1/4/2006 7:29:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/4/2006 7:30:07 PM EDT by cookie]

Originally Posted By hughjafj:
I love my Mil-spec.



Ditto.



With the mods I've made, it shoots much better than my "Loaded".
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 7:36:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HSimpson:
The GI model chews up brass badly. Can't remember if the Mil Spec shares the standard, non lowered ejection port. Avoid that if you want to reload.



Mil spec has better sights and lowered port. I REALLY want to like my SS one but its just so damn finicky. I really think part of the problem is that the chamber is a bit under spec. I was blaming the ammo but it shoots just fine in several other 1911s so I don't know yet.
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 7:44:22 PM EDT
I bought a NM prefixed model in 2003 for $399 new. I have put a few thousand rounds through it without a problem. Solid pistol for the price.
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 7:56:32 PM EDT
What is this two piece barrel I am reading about?

20
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 8:07:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/4/2006 8:17:36 PM EDT by patsue]



My stainless milspec after about $400 worth of gunsmithing and upgrades. Bought it for $350 stock.

My gunsmith specializes in 1911 pistols. Makes race guns for competition

On this one, he fitted beavertail safety, STI hammer, BoMar rear sight, Novak front sight, Extended safety, Oversized slide release with oversized barrel link (tightened up gun a bunch) recrowned the barrel, cleaned up the trigger.

I have shot probably 200 rounds through it since the work done and it is dead accurate and reliable with all ammo I have tried.

I am very happy with it.

Sorry about the pic

Patsue
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 8:16:01 PM EDT
You guys aren't helping me.

I'm trying not to buy a Springfield Armory GI .45 1911. You not talking me out of it.

______________________


Link Posted: 1/4/2006 8:20:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/4/2006 8:22:15 PM EDT by fxntime]

Originally Posted By KR20:
What is this two piece barrel I am reading about?

20



The BBL is made in two pieces, the rifled tube and the chamber section. They are then sweated or friction welded [not sure which] together. If you look closely you can see the line.
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 8:24:36 PM EDT
I traded $158 and this (along with 3 holsters and 3 magazines):

For this:



One of the best firearms transactions I have conducted in awhile.

This is my first 1911. It will remain pure, as I like service-grade weapons. Since that's the kinds of weapons I'll most likely deploy with, I like to keep proficient with them. Millions of GIs who have gone into battle before me can't be wrong.


Link Posted: 1/4/2006 8:34:00 PM EDT
What does MIM mean guys?
Link Posted: 1/4/2006 8:42:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SGB:
How much you gonna get it for?





it was going to be a birthday present for me for yesterday, but it's going to be a little late for a very acceptable reason.

Thanks for all the responses so far!
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 2:40:09 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/5/2006 2:44:10 AM EDT

Originally Posted By JS98010:
I traded $158 and this (along with 3 holsters and 3 magazines): i19.photobucket.com/albums/b168/js98010/P94.jpg

For this: i19.photobucket.com/albums/b168/js98010/1911A1_001.jpg
i19.photobucket.com/albums/b168/js98010/1911A1_002.jpg
i19.photobucket.com/albums/b168/js98010/1911A1_003.jpg

One of the best firearms transactions I have conducted in awhile.

This is my first 1911. It will remain pure, as I like service-grade weapons. Since that's the kinds of weapons I'll most likely deploy with, I like to keep proficient with them. Millions of GIs who have gone into battle before me can't be wrong.



nice
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 6:49:37 PM EDT
btt
Link Posted: 1/9/2006 6:54:38 PM EDT
Well.....did you get it?
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