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Posted: 1/1/2006 7:09:23 PM EDT
Sometimes when I'm going to sleep, or when I'm doing the falling-asleep-while-watching-TV thing, I suddenly have to inhale real deep as though someone had been holding my head underwater or something. After a few breaths I go on like normal, but sometimes it's a rude awakening.

Anybody else do the same thing?
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:10:44 PM EDT
Sleep Apnea?
Call your MD, it is a killer.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:11:33 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:11:53 PM EDT
Sleep apnea would be my bet. Get yourself to a doctor.

My mother and maternal grandfather developed sleep apnea, now they're on CPAP machines and doing fine.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:13:54 PM EDT
Yep.

Get it checked before you die.

Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:14:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HIPPO:

Sleep Apnea?
Call your MD, it is a killer.



+1


Search the Archives, we've had several threads
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:14:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GoGop:
Sometimes when I'm going to sleep, or when I'm doing the falling-asleep-while-watching-TV thing, I suddenly have to inhale real deep as though someone had been holding my head underwater or something. After a few breaths I go on like normal, but sometimes it's a rude awakening.

Anybody else do the same thing?



See a doctor ASAP. I wish I had...I now have an ICD in my chest due to sleep apnea and lack of oxygen to my heart. This is NOTHING to play around with or ignore...it will not get better until you get diagnosed and hopefully they'll put you on CPAP at night.

HH
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:16:41 PM EDT
You guys are serious?

that shit happens often.


Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:17:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Sleep Apnea?
Call your MD, it is a killer.



That's the same thing I was experiencing at one time. I would occasionally wake myself up gasping and realizing that I hadn't been breathing for some period. It was found I had a fairly severe case of sleep apnea. Get your md to order a sleep test for you. A cpap makes a hell of a difference in your quality of sleep. It IS potentially dangerous, get checked-
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:19:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Triumph955i:
You guys are serious?

that shit happens often.






Serious? Yes. Sleep apnea can kill you.

Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:20:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:

Originally Posted By HIPPO:

Sleep Apnea?
Call your MD, it is a killer.



+1


Search the Archives, we've had several threads



Don't delay going to the DR.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:21:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/1/2006 7:23:14 PM EDT by WildBoar]

Originally Posted By GoGop:
Sometimes when I'm going to sleep, or when I'm doing the falling-asleep-while-watching-TV thing, I suddenly have to inhale real deep as though someone had been holding my head underwater or something. After a few breaths I go on like normal, but sometimes it's a rude awakening.

Anybody else do the same thing?



Can you move or does it feel like you are frozen? Could be sleep paralysis. I get it all the time, especially if I sleep on my back.

You should still get checked though.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:22:03 PM EDT
Sometimes I wake up suddenly and it feels like I just got shocked by an electric fence, sometimes I can even hear it. I think that's kind of messed up.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:22:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GoGop:
Sometimes when I'm going to sleep, or when I'm doing the falling-asleep-while-watching-TV thing, I suddenly have to inhale real deep as though someone had been holding my head underwater or something. After a few breaths I go on like normal, but sometimes it's a rude awakening.

Anybody else do the same thing?




Never when I am sleeping. There are times when I am concentrating so hard on what I am doing I forget to breathe . . . then start again when I almost pass out.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:24:52 PM EDT
From health.yahoo.com/ency/healthwise/aa31928;_ylt=As13HR.Urm0U88xFnFXxdCCUH7kF#aa31928-sec:

If obstructive sleep apnea (OSA) is not treated, over time it can lead to complications, which may include:

- Low blood oxygen levels during sleep. Low blood oxygen levels can lead to high blood pressure in the lungs (pulmonary hypertension) and in the rest of the body (hypertension). Nearly 50% of people who have OSA have high blood pressure.

- Heart failure affecting the right side of the heart. About 10% to 15% of people who have OSA develop pulmonary hypertension, which leads to right-sided heart failure.

- Irregular heart rhythms (arrhythmias) or heart failure, which may cause sudden death.

- Coronary artery disease (CAD).

- A greater-than-normal number of red blood cells, which may cause thickening of the blood.

- Death caused by blood vessel disease affecting the brain and heart (stroke and heart attack).

- Failure to resume breathing (respiratory failure) and sudden death, especially in the early morning (very rare).
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:35:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WildBoar:

Originally Posted By GoGop:
Sometimes when I'm going to sleep, or when I'm doing the falling-asleep-while-watching-TV thing, I suddenly have to inhale real deep as though someone had been holding my head underwater or something. After a few breaths I go on like normal, but sometimes it's a rude awakening.

Anybody else do the same thing?



Can you move or does it feel like you are frozen? Could be sleep paralysis. I get it all the time, especially if I sleep on my back.

You should still get checked though.



Sleep paralysis? A few weeks ago I was asleep (I think) and had an episode that was kind of messed up. The sound of my bedroom door awakened me... At least I think it did. It felt like I opened my eyes and saw a figure searching underneath my bed.

The whole time my hands were wraped around the Glock beneath my pillow but I could not move. It was freaky as hell. Must have been a dream because the next morning I woke up and I had not killed anyone. I guess it was just one hella dream.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:35:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/1/2006 7:36:28 PM EDT by fight4yourrights]

Originally Posted By Triumph955i:

You guys are serious?

that shit happens often.







VERY - and there are LOT'S of issues besides having a heart attack


I think they said I stopped breathing 87 times per hour.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:37:36 PM EDT
You know, going in your sleep isn't too bad considering the other methods....
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:41:27 PM EDT
Definitely see a doc.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:46:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:

Originally Posted By Triumph955i:

You guys are serious?

that shit happens often.







VERY - and there are LOT'S of issues besides having a heart attack


I think they said I stopped breathing 87 times per hour.



I sure hope you're on CPAP.

HH
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:46:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/1/2006 8:18:25 PM EDT by lu380]
That happens to me almost every night. I went for a sleep study but I never fell completely asleep because it's hard to sleep with wires taped to you scalp and eyelids and a pulseox on your finger. My test was inconclusive, but many people have told me that I gasp for air frequently in my sleep.


EDIT: I've been on blood pressure meds since I was 18.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:49:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By lu380:
That happens to me almost every night. I went for a sleep study but I never fell completely asleep because it's hard to sleep with wires taped to you scalp and eyelids and a pulseox on your finger. My test was inconclusive, but many people have told me that I gasp for air frequently in my sleep.



Re-do it then. Many Sleep Labs do the study over a 2-night period. Inconclusive doesn't cut it.

HH
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:49:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By critterflht:

Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Sleep Apnea?
Call your MD, it is a killer.



That's the same thing I was experiencing at one time. I would occasionally wake myself up gasping and realizing that I hadn't been breathing for some period. It was found I had a fairly severe case of sleep apnea. Get your md to order a sleep test for you. A cpap makes a hell of a difference in your quality of sleep. It IS potentially dangerous, get checked-



SHIT. Happens to me too.
I gonna go see a MD.
I dont wanna go out like that...
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 7:50:39 PM EDT
Yikes, I had no idea it was that serious! I don't wake up that way through the night or in the morning, just as I'm going to sleep. I wake up about once per hour, but that's from back pain and I just roll over and go back to sleep. I never feel paralyzed though, so that's good.

The stuff Kill-9 posted scares me though, because;


1. I developed high blood pressure a few years ago, and take 10mg of Norvasc at bedtime which controls it.

2. I have heart palpitations, and take 50mg of Toprol XL at bedtime which controls that.



I believe I'll be calling my doctor tomorrow for an appointment.

Thanks for the advice everyone.



Link Posted: 1/1/2006 8:01:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HoustonHusker:


I sure hope you're on CPAP.

HH




I am now.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 8:16:22 PM EDT
Damn, this happens to me a few times a week. I better make an appointment tomorrow.

`45
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 8:51:14 PM EDT
I have one of the worst cases of sleep apnea my doctor has ever seen. Every time you stop breathing it is called a titration. Titrations are caused by a restriction in the air passage or a neurological occurrence. Mine is a restriction in the air passage. Severe sleep apnea is around 30 titrations per hour, most people with sleep apnea have 10-15 per hour. I had over 150 per hour. Just imagine someone nudging you 150 times an hour saying “yo, wake up". This translates into little or in my case no REM sleep. I have not had a good night's sleep in a few years. I would be so tired that I would almost fall asleep driving, I would literally fall asleep sitting at my computer and TV... forget about it. I would get up 10+ times in the middle of the night to make a bathroom trip. Even though I thought I was sleeping my batteries weren’t getting recharged. My wife told me I would sometimes shake in bed and I would constantly snore. Well after seeing my doctor a few times and of course not believing him I finally went and had a sleep study. 2 months later I have a CPAP machine. I have been using it now for about a month..... What a difference, I feel great. I can’t say I like wearing the F-16 mask to bed but the trade off is worth it. My sleep apnea was caused by being a fat bastard. I have put on over 50lbs since I got married 4 years ago. I'm hoping a new diet will eliminate the CPAP machine. In case it wasn’t mentioned before the CPAP machine forces air into your nasal passage to keep it open. Hope this helps!!!
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 9:26:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By rugby:
I have one of the worst cases of sleep apnea my doctor has ever seen. Every time you stop breathing it is called a titration. Titrations are caused by a restriction in the air passage or a neurological occurrence. Could mine be related to my Degenerative Disk Disease?

My wife told me I would sometimes shake in bed and I would constantly snore. According to my wife I snore a lot, and she says I jump around like a chicken. My left leg jumps randomly all through the day because of my back, so I figured that the additional jumping when I sleep was due to being more relaxed and letting everything jump.



2 months later I have a CPAP machine. In case it wasn’t mentioned before the CPAP machine forces air into your nasal passage to keep it open. Hope this helps!!! I'm glad you posted that. I thought CPAP was a medicine from what everyone had said.




Definately calling the doctor tomorrow.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 9:39:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By WildBoar:

Can you move or does it feel like you are frozen? Could be sleep paralysis. I get it all the time, especially if I sleep on my back.

You should still get checked though.



i used to suffer from that, and it was TERRIFYING until i did some research and figured out wtf was going on.
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 9:50:41 PM EDT
This is crazy...I just realized for the first time last night that I was waking up catching my breath. My, the things one can learn at ar15.com...

Gus
Link Posted: 1/1/2006 10:14:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Sleep Apnea?
Call your MD, it is a killer.


+1 Don't screw around .
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 12:03:12 AM EDT
When Im lounging and not doing anything for a while I usually make 3 or 4 breaths a minute max. No reason why, I just dont breath much when I dont need to. I do yawn a lot though.
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 12:20:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Sleep Apnea?
Call your MD, it is a killer.



I've heard being overweight is a big cause of that. That or a large neck... either by chance or by being overweight.
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 12:37:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Sleep Apnea?
Call your MD, it is a killer.


How do you approach the subject when attempting to make the appointment?

After I gained over 50 pounds because of my horrific seven day a week work schedule, I've started having trouble with sleep. I've been told that several times an hour I stop breathing. I tried making appointments with three different GP's. They wouldn't create an appointment based upon that reason. Also, when they ask my age, their attitude changes for the worse. Apparently the doctors don't want new patients my age. A nurse that deals with this at the local hospital suggested two doctors, but they aren't taking new patients. I haven't seen a doctor since I was 13, so I have no experience in getting things done with doctors for myself. I just don't know how to approach this.

GoGop, it could be worse. You could have the other problem I have when sleeping. Several times a week I wake-up because the contents of my stomach end-up in my sinus cavity and my lungs. I spend several minutes blowing food and stomach acid out of my nose.z
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 5:16:33 AM EDT
There's some good info in this thread: www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=31&t=205741
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 6:00:31 AM EDT
You guys ever dream your a very large woman who puked on yourself and passed out in someone elses bed after a party ?............
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 6:04:31 AM EDT
Weight gain is a significant factor in MOST apnea cases, but not all.


The anatomy of your throat matters - we had a skinny ass guy in our group session, but he had loose, flappy skin in his throat.


Yeah, the F16 mask is a bit of a pain, especially at high pressure like I require, but you get used to it pretty quickly
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 6:11:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By zoom:

Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Sleep Apnea?
Call your MD, it is a killer.


How do you approach the subject when attempting to make the appointment?

After I gained over 50 pounds because of my horrific seven day a week work schedule, I've started having trouble with sleep. I've been told that several times an hour I stop breathing. I tried making appointments with three different GP's. They wouldn't create an appointment based upon that reason. Also, when they ask my age, their attitude changes for the worse. Apparently the doctors don't want new patients my age. A nurse that deals with this at the local hospital suggested two doctors, but they aren't taking new patients. I haven't seen a doctor since I was 13, so I have no experience in getting things done with doctors for myself. I just don't know how to approach this.

GoGop, it could be worse. You could have the other problem I have when sleeping. Several times a week I wake-up because the contents of my stomach end-up in my sinus cavity and my lungs. I spend several minutes blowing food and stomach acid out of my nose.z



You could alter your approach by one of several different ways. Schedule yourself for a "check-up", and present with that problem during your time w/ the MD. You could use the ER route to get an appointment w/ an MD, but that may be too over the top. Or you could just demand an appointment w/ the MD - sqeaky wheel gets the grease, so to speak. Don't let nurses boss you around, it is your health - take charge of the situation. But if you do nothing else, get to a doctor ASAP.
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 6:21:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Triumph955i:
You guys are serious?

that shit happens often.





Ask Reggie White
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 6:21:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By GoGop:
Sometimes when I'm going to sleep, or when I'm doing the falling-asleep-while-watching-TV thing, I suddenly have to inhale real deep as though someone had been holding my head underwater or something. After a few breaths I go on like normal, but sometimes it's a rude awakening. hinking.gif

Anybody else do the same thing?



Yeah, you have sleep apnea, you probably need a sleep study and then may need a CPAP machine. I'm sure you wake up tired and are tired all day long. Once you have a machine you will probably get better sleep.
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 11:57:31 AM EDT

Originally Posted By zoom:
GoGop, it could be worse. You could have the other problem I have when sleeping. Several times a week I wake-up because the contents of my stomach end-up in my sinus cavity and my lungs. I spend several minutes blowing food and stomach acid out of my nose.z



I had that too. I used to wake up puking at about 2am all the time. 300mg of Zantac at bedtime stops it. I also sleep propped up on pillows to keep the acid down. I wish I could afford one of those hospital beds.
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 12:16:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/2/2006 12:17:56 PM EDT by Joyce]

Originally Posted By GoGop:
1. I developed high blood pressure a few years ago, and take 10mg of Norvasc at bedtime which controls it.
2. I have heart palpitations, and take 50mg of Toprol XL at bedtime which controls that.

I believe I'll be calling my doctor tomorrow for an appointment.

Thanks for the advice everyone.






Toprol XL can also cause this. It is called dyspnea[ Air hunger resulting in labored or difficult breathing, ]. Check on the meds before you go our half cocked believing you have need of a CPAP. Had it happen when I was on it for it tachycardia. Within two weeks of not taking it, my breathing retured to normal.
Here's the info on it.
rxlist.com/cgi/generic/metopxl_ad.htm
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 12:38:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GoGop:

Originally Posted By zoom:
GoGop, it could be worse. You could have the other problem I have when sleeping. Several times a week I wake-up because the contents of my stomach end-up in my sinus cavity and my lungs. I spend several minutes blowing food and stomach acid out of my nose.z



I had that too. I used to wake up puking at about 2am all the time. 300mg of Zantac at bedtime stops it. I also sleep propped up on pillows to keep the acid down. I wish I could afford one of those hospital beds.



Interesting you mentioned a hospital bed. Before my sleep study and machine the absolute BEST sleep I got was in my recliner. I think sleeping with your head(and upper body) elevated helps with the sleep apnea, or at least it did me-
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 12:40:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
Yeah, the F16 mask is a bit of a pain, especially at high pressure like I require, but you get used to it pretty quickly



Wearing a cpap while playing a flight simulator! The image of that made me laugh.
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 12:57:27 PM EDT
Glad I tagged this thread. Very informative.
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 1:08:05 PM EDT
One more point, my understanding is that if you get up several times during the night to take a leak it's not necessarily your prostate that's the problem, that can be attributable to sleep apnea as well. The thing is that if you are constantly waking up gasping for breath, obviously you never really reach REM(the good sleep). When people that sleep normally go into REM, their kidneys stop producing urine(or at least slow down lots). This means of course, that they have to get up less during the night to take a whiz-
Lee
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 1:40:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By GoGop:
Sometimes when I'm going to sleep, or when I'm doing the falling-asleep-while-watching-TV thing, I suddenly have to inhale real deep as though someone had been holding my head underwater or something. After a few breaths I go on like normal, but sometimes it's a rude awakening.

Anybody else do the same thing?



Since you're describing this sensation at the cusp between sleep and wakefulness rather than during deep sleep, I'll bet a buck that you end up with a diagnosis of sleep paralysis rather than apnea.
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 1:48:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By tommytrauma:

Originally Posted By GoGop:
Sometimes when I'm going to sleep, or when I'm doing the falling-asleep-while-watching-TV thing, I suddenly have to inhale real deep as though someone had been holding my head underwater or something. After a few breaths I go on like normal, but sometimes it's a rude awakening.

Anybody else do the same thing?



Since you're describing this sensation at the cusp between sleep and wakefulness rather than during deep sleep, I'll bet a buck that you end up with a diagnosis of sleep paralysis rather than apnea.



Tommy, that is exactly what happens to me. It only occurs when I am transitioning from being awake to falling asleep. I literally jolt, and feel like I either quit breathing, or my heart stopped. I take a few breaths, and fall right back to sleep. It scares the crap out of me, to say the least...especially since I'm only 27.

`45
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 1:50:02 PM EDT
This sort of happens to me, only when I'm awake. I'll notice that I haven't taken a breath in a little bit, then I have total conscious control of my breathing for a little while before it goes back to automatic. A little annoying but very rare.
Link Posted: 1/2/2006 2:04:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 45JHP:

Originally Posted By tommytrauma:

Originally Posted By GoGop:
Sometimes when I'm going to sleep, or when I'm doing the falling-asleep-while-watching-TV thing, I suddenly have to inhale real deep as though someone had been holding my head underwater or something. After a few breaths I go on like normal, but sometimes it's a rude awakening.

Anybody else do the same thing?



Since you're describing this sensation at the cusp between sleep and wakefulness rather than during deep sleep, I'll bet a buck that you end up with a diagnosis of sleep paralysis rather than apnea.



Tommy, that is exactly what happens to me. It only occurs when I am transitioning from being awake to falling asleep. I literally jolt, and feel like I either quit breathing, or my heart stopped. I take a few breaths, and fall right back to sleep. It scares the crap out of me, to say the least...especially since I'm only 27.

`45



Yup, happens to a lot of people, It's believed to be the genesis of the incubus and succubus (ok, so I can't spell) myths. Harmless. Sleep apnea occurs during sleep, and is an entirely different beast.
Link Posted: 1/3/2006 9:12:38 AM EDT
They were closed for the holiday yesterday, so we called today and I have an appointment to see him Thursday. I'll update as I find out what happens.

Thanks for the input everyone.
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