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Posted: 12/29/2005 11:10:51 AM EDT
Iv been a BAD boy.

Over on Amback forums, there was a discussion about Glock KaBooms. I jokingly posted a few images of a blown up S&W Revolver, and an M-14 that turned up in a routiene Google search. Lo and behold, one of the Forum Admins supposedly "owns" one of the un-protected and publicly posted images, and uses his "power" to have me banned...after bad-mouthing me, and calling me names in a public forum.

Here is the link for anyone who cares:
www.ambackforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=254221#254221

Id let him know what an idiot he is, but i can no longer view the forums, so i cant see his E-mail address. What makes it even more helarious is that another Admin sent the bann notification (the guy didnt have the nerve to do it himself aparently), and told me to "square things away" with him.

How do i do that when i cant access the private message, or E-mail feature i wonder?
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 11:12:20 AM EDT
Don't you just hate board nazis?
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 11:12:27 AM EDT
Welcome uh.....WeaselUnit
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 11:13:05 AM EDT
That's why I don't go there anymore. It's a third rate forum not worthy of the bother...
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 11:14:02 AM EDT
Clean_Cut, is that you?
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 11:15:30 AM EDT
Tag

Popcorn...check.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 11:17:57 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 11:18:01 AM EDT
At least the hoster didn't replace the pics with ghey pron.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 11:21:54 AM EDT

originally posted by Sturmwehr:


Mr. Speir, while I admire your insight on firearms and value it... you really assume too much when it comes to law.


Glad we got on the same wavelength, Wade. Keep you Glocks, and keep them in top repair and condition.

"Mr. Trooper," you've gotta be the stupidest, tactically clueless Member in the history of this Forum… first, you totally ignore the Intellectual Property ( Don't Infringe! ) guidelines to which you agreed to abide when you registered, but then you post one of my copyrighted images you stole from TGZ and put up in Photobucket for your own nefarious uses, and turn around and post it in my own TGZ Forum!





Actually, what he did was completely legal - whether you want to hear it or not. There's even an internet "legal precident" in his favor.

Google has a feature called "Google Image Search." In this feature, you can use Google to search for photos with what was in your search parameters.

For instance, let's say I want to Google Image Search "Statue of Liberty":



That is a thumbnail of the first result. This image is provided by Google. Google takes your images, and shrinks them down to a managable thumbnail size for largescale viewing.

So, to demonstrate this further, I typed in "TheGunZone." Here is what I got for a first result:



(Link to search: http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=TheGunZone )

That seems to be a photo from a IDPA match. There's also LOADS of more photos Google has from TGZ.

Also, take note that these pictures on are GOOGLE'S server. Not yours. Google took your original photo and resized it and hosted it on THEIR server - basically the same thing the man above did.



That said, I suggest the following: Unban my friend since he did nothing wrong and you did. He may have done something that you disagreed with (also, a thread in a forum does not constitute a legal waiver... it must be viewable on the same form you agree too when you sign up.), it was completely legal.

Also, sir, Google is "stealing" your images. It is, however, a completely legal act. My only advice is to put your website URL on all your photos so you can claim originality.

Link Posted: 12/29/2005 11:22:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/29/2005 11:28:29 AM EDT by Alien]
Recently I posted 2 pictures from a stupid moronic liberal hippy’s picture library that was in an open directory on his webspace with many other funny pictures. One was an animated gif and the other was a funny picture of a round guy with a ski mask and an MP5K and a few cases of beer with the caption (Don’t fuck with the admins!). When I posted the animated gif, I stated above the pic “I found this in some liberal hippy’s picture library.” This super duper sleuth of a webmaster (note the sarcasm) noticed traffic/views coming from AR15.com and came here and viewed the posts. He then changed the animated gif to a rainbow circle saying “Hi I’m Alien and I’m gay!” and changed the admin picture to the Goatsex asshole ripping guy with my name on it. The goatsex guy pic got my account locked after a mod saw it. Yeah, real funny.

I can understand when people get pissed off when people steal other people’s sales information and pictures and use them for their own auctions/websites while having the pics hosted by the original owner, and won’t comply with requests to remove them. This was just stupid and proved that he was a homophobic liberal hippy that thinks he’s somehow the internet god by changing some pics on me.

Lesson learned, if you’re gonna post pictures, post them from a reliable host or host them yourself. And if you're going to fuck somebody over with the pictures your hosting, I hope you don't have them hosted on a domain name that is registered to you... seeing as though you can easily get a physical address and phone number and name and all sorts of other information on the host of the said pics. Not that I would do anything with said information. Seriously, I haven't, but the thought of having some comical stuff sent to said address was tempting.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 11:25:08 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 11:27:43 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 11:28:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
At least the hoster didn't replace the pics with ghey pron.



LOL I did that but with scat pics..
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 11:30:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/29/2005 11:34:09 AM EDT by Alien]

Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:

Originally Posted By Alien:
Lesson learned, if you’re gonna post pictures, post them from a reliable host or host them yourself.



Um, you were wrong. I don't blame him for doing what he did. When you hotlink to his site from this one, you obviously have no concept of the HUGE bandwidth draw, due to our numbers here. If you want to snag a pic, no problem--just host it elsewhere rather than hotlinking to his site. He is then powerless to make the switcheroo.



Actually TBK1, I realize that and I'm not wrong in what you quoted. I may have been technically wrong in hotlinking the pics I did, since it used his bandwidth however. What I was saying is that if you wanna hotlink a pic from CCN.com or Foxnews.com (reliable sites that see insane amounts of bandwidth usage), then you're in the clear. They're not going to change pics into gay porn or something similar on you. Otherwise, host it yourself. I was already agreeing with what you said.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 11:41:25 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Alien:
Recently I posted 2 pictures from a stupid moronic liberal hippy’s picture library that was in an open directory on his webspace with many other funny pictures. One was an animated gif and the other was a funny picture of a round guy with a ski mask and an MP5K and a few cases of beer with the caption (Don’t fuck with the admins!). When I posted the animated gif, I stated above the pic “I found this in some liberal hippy’s picture library.” This super duper sleuth of a webmaster (note the sarcasm) noticed traffic/views coming from AR15.com and came here and viewed the posts. He then changed the animated gif to a rainbow circle saying “Hi I’m Alien and I’m gay!” and changed the admin picture to the Goatsex asshole ripping guy with my name on it. The goatsex guy pic got my account locked after a mod saw it. Yeah, real funny.

I can understand when people get pissed off when people steal other people’s sales information and pictures and use them for their own auctions/websites while having the pics hosted by the original owner, and won’t comply with requests to remove them. This was just stupid and proved that he was a homophobic liberal hippy that thinks he’s somehow the internet god by changing some pics on me.

Lesson learned, if you’re gonna post pictures, post them from a reliable host or host them yourself. And if you're going to fuck somebody over with the pictures your hosting, I hope you don't have them hosted on a domain name that is registered to you... seeing as though you can easily get a physical address and phone number and name and all sorts of other information on the host of the said pics. Not that I would do anything with said information. Seriously, I haven't, but the thought of having some comical stuff sent to said address was tempting.



Actually, you were stealing his bandwidth, and despite what I think of the guy's politics, I support his right and decision to change the images
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 11:42:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/29/2005 11:43:51 AM EDT by thebeekeeper1]
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 11:44:38 AM EDT
Be careful of wolves in sheeps clothing here. Welcome!

AB
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 11:46:16 AM EDT
DeanSpeir is kind of a dick.
Right or wrong - he is not really a "people person"
Guy jumped all over my ass once for posting a topic in the wrong(but not completly inappropraite) forum.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 11:58:52 AM EDT
Thats for the support guys.

I had NO IDEA that you guys drew so much bandwidth... i only posted it on 5 other active gun boards. he

O, and i called myself Wesel unit because i couldnt use my usualy handle (no punctuation ont his forum)
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 12:03:17 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 12:22:24 PM EDT

That website is a mixture of gun facts you won’t find anywhere else and typical fantasy BS some gunwriters can’t help themselves from making up and spreading.

As far as personal attacks, he has done it before and will most likely do it again. The one that irks me most is his slanderous lies designed to malign Chuck Taylor, so you are in good company with an Army Ranger and Vietnam vet.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 12:32:02 PM EDT
Dean Speir is a joke and an asshole, I think I still have account over there
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 12:36:45 PM EDT
"publicly posted" does not mean free to copy and distribute....if you did not take the picture, or draw it, or buy the rigths, then you have no business distributing it
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 12:38:40 PM EDT
tag
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 12:39:38 PM EDT
LOL...!

Dean Speir is a legend in his own mind...
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 12:40:47 PM EDT
Dean Speir is a know-it-all douchbag with an "I'm better then you and know more than you attitude". Fuck him and the horse he rode in on.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 12:40:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/29/2005 12:41:51 PM EDT by 89grand]
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 12:42:47 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 12:46:44 PM EDT
Welcome!
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 1:06:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/29/2005 1:08:50 PM EDT by James23]
The only thing I know about Dean Speir, I just learned from reading his post.

Right or wrong in this point, he comes off as a complete asshat and an arrogant prick.

Otherwise, I'm sure he's a nice guy.

ETA: Welcome to the site. Good people here.

Link Posted: 12/29/2005 1:16:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/29/2005 1:17:00 PM EDT by USGI_45]

Originally Posted By SmilingBandit:
At least the hoster didn't replace the pics with ghey pron.




I did that once and was banned. though it wasnt ghey pron, just pron
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 1:30:25 PM EDT
So aren't you suppose to be on I got banned from The Gun Zone.com?

We have a similar site here for those banned from AR15.com

Link Posted: 12/29/2005 1:38:09 PM EDT
Are we going to ask this guy to post a pic of him under a bridge with his weapons, flipping us the bird?

­
Nevermind...

Welcome to ARFCOM!, where even I had a thread locked...
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 1:49:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MuRDoC:
Dean Speir is a joke and an asshole, I think I still have account over there


+1 on both.

I haven't been there in a long while. Pretty mindless crap anyway.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 2:01:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Troll:
So aren't you suppose to be on I got banned from The Gun Zone.com?

We have a similar site here for those banned from AR15.com






Link Posted: 12/29/2005 3:12:12 PM EDT
Arfcom kicks butt over most boards. It's like being in a pick-up game and slinging BS back and forth, and you get a lot of good information too!
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