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Posted: 12/27/2005 7:08:31 PM EDT
Looking for a dual sided blade, with one that slides open from the front.
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:09:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Illinigunner21:
Looking for a dual sided blade, with one that slides open from the front.

Have you found someone that will ship to IL?
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:10:04 PM EDT
Why do I get the feeling that would be legal in the Great State of Illinois?
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:10:35 PM EDT
Your thinking of a stiletto, and no there against the law in most states.
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:11:13 PM EDT
But, I saw one on 24 yesterday! Aww shucks... thanks for the heads up though.
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:11:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pointtarget:
Your thinking of a stiletto, and no there against the law in most states.



Not here.
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:13:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/27/2005 7:15:19 PM EDT by tc6969]
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:16:55 PM EDT
So I'm assuming this is a no go? Anyone know where I could find the IL law... ?
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:18:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By tc6969:

Originally Posted By pointtarget:
Your thinking of a stiletto, and no there against the law in most states.



A stiletto is a style of blade and has nothing to do with whether it opens from front or side or even if it opens at all.

sti·let·to Audio pronunciation of "stiletto" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (st-lt)
n. pl. sti·let·tos or sti·let·toes

1.
1. A small dagger with a slender, tapering blade.
2. Something shaped like such a dagger.
2. A small, sharp-pointed instrument used for making eyelet holes in needlework.



I would say most front opening autos are stilleto type blades. You're splitting hairs.
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:18:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/27/2005 7:19:59 PM EDT by DigDug]
www.state.il.us
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:19:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/27/2005 7:20:16 PM EDT by Cableman]
www.pvknife.com
They should be able to help you out.


Your looking for a Microtech knife. Good stuff, but be prepared to pay $$$
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:20:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Illinigunner21:
Looking for a dual sided blade, with one that slides open from the front.



Desert knifeworks Sand Shark , MOD Harkins OTF or the Paragon ATKO 10 [out of production but you can still find them around at gun shows]
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:20:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By captainpooby:

Originally Posted By tc6969:

Originally Posted By pointtarget:
Your thinking of a stiletto, and no there against the law in most states.



A stiletto is a style of blade and has nothing to do with whether it opens from front or side or even if it opens at all.

sti·let·to Audio pronunciation of "stiletto" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (st-lt)
n. pl. sti·let·tos or sti·let·toes

1.
1. A small dagger with a slender, tapering blade.
2. Something shaped like such a dagger.
2. A small, sharp-pointed instrument used for making eyelet holes in needlework.



I would say most front opening autos are stilleto type blades. You're splitting hairs.



No, they are considered OTF knives.
Out The Front
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:21:15 PM EDT
well my state blows...


Illinois Criminal Code 720 ILCS 5/24-1. Unlawful Use of
Weapons. (a) A person commits the offense of unlawful use
of weapons when he knowingly... (2) Carries or possesses
with intent to use the same unlawfully against another, a
dagger, dirk, billy, dangerous knife, razor, stiletto,
broken bottle or other piece of glass... or any other
dangerous or deadly weapon of like character...
- 720 ILCS 5/33A-1... A person is considered armed with a
dangerous weapon... when he carries on or about his person
or is otherwise armed with a category I or category II
weapon. (b) A category I weapon is a [firearm or] a knife
with a blade at least 3 inches in length, dagger, dirk,
switchblade knife, stiletto, or any other deadly or
dangerous weapon of like character.
- 720 ILCS 5/24-1. Unlawful Use of Weapons. (a) A person
commits the offense of unlawful use of weapons when he
knowingly: (1) Sells, manufactures, purchases, possesses
or carries any... knife commonly referred to as a
switchblade knife, which has a blade that opens
automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring
or other device in the handle of the knife, or a ballistic
knife, which is a device that propels a knifelike blade as
a projectile by means of a coil spring, elastic material,
or compressed gas...
- 720 ILCS 5/33A-1... A person is considered armed with a
dangerous weapon... when he carries on or about his person
or is otherwise armed with a category I or category II
weapon. (b) A category I weapon is a [firearm or] a knife
with a blade at least 3 inches in length, dagger, dirk,
switchblade knife, stiletto, or any other deadly or
dangerous weapon of like character.

Illinois Case Law:
- "Possession of hunting knife is not a crime; however,
knowingly carrying or possessing dangerous weapon with
intent to use same unlawfully against another constitutes
offense..." (1982)
- "Weapon not listed in statute can become "dangerous weapon"
when it is used in a manner dangerous to well being of
individual threatened, and knife with blade less than 3
inches in length can be dangerous weapon if used in such
manner." (1991)
- "A straight-blade razor did not constitute a per se
dangerous weapon, for purposes of armed violence
charge..." (1987)
- "Walking cane, even if not per se dangerous, was...
transformed by defendant's usage into a dangerous weapon."
(1977)


http://www.knife-expert.com

Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:21:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By pointtarget:



Your thinking of a stiletto, and no there against the law in most states.





Did ya SEE the part about being automatic?
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:22:37 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:24:05 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Illinigunner21:

But, I saw one on 24 yesterday! .





PLEASE tell me that's not why you want one.............
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:25:20 PM EDT
I like OTF knives. That stands for out the front. I have a Microtech that has both sides sharpened and I got it with the grip tape but without the serrated blade. It was $525 MSRP. It is the Makora model.
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:26:37 PM EDT
- 720 ILCS 5/33A-1... A person is considered armed with a
dangerous weapon... when he carries on or about his person
or is otherwise armed with a category I or category II
weapon. (b) A category I weapon is a [firearm or] a knife
with a blade at least 3 inches in length, dagger, dirk,
switchblade knife, stiletto, or any other deadly or
dangerous weapon of like character
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:30:27 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:33:04 PM EDT
MICROTECH!!
I have 3 and love them. The Makora is an OTF and very sweet.
As far as Illinois, I order them and they ship them to me. Some places won't ship if you can't prove you're a cop, but perserverance eventually wins out.
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:33:34 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:33:45 PM EDT
Actually, I'm pretty sure that originally Stiletto was the name of the company that made the old fifties style switch blades. I used to have a link to them on the web. They're in Italy, and they still make custom auto knives.

I've run into a few over the years that the blade was actually stamped stiletto italy.

Could be wrong, but that's what I've always thought. That it's not a style of knife at all, but a company.
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:41:28 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:43:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By hatebreed:
Actually, I'm pretty sure that originally Stiletto was the name of the company that made the old fifties style switch blades. I used to have a link to them on the web. They're in Italy, and they still make custom auto knives.

I've run into a few over the years that the blade was actually stamped stiletto italy.

Could be wrong, but that's what I've always thought. That it's not a style of knife at all, but a company.



Stiletto is a genetic term for a long thin bladed knife it can be fixed or folding. They started out as a dagger that could get between the links on chain mail.
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 7:46:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DigDug:
199.165.217.2/scarabdebt.jpg



+1 on the Microtech
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 8:17:11 PM EDT

Originally Posted By slash-5:
www.thebrightedge.com/xcart/customer/home.php?cat=312



thanks a million slash.....


Now I'm actually considering spending $400+ on a damn knife.

you got me scouring the web for other OTF knives as well.
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