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Posted: 12/27/2005 11:06:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/27/2005 5:07:22 PM EDT by Sniper_Wolfe]
Edit: See link near bottom.

I posted this in the M1 forum, but didn't get much of a response.

I'm wondering about this (supposedly Yugoslavian) .30-06 ammo that I got as a Christmas gift.

Here is the info I have. I'm thinking maybe it's some sort of M2 ball spec ammo based on the last part of the top of the box - it says M2.

If you guys could help me out it'd be great.





The headstamp says NK 1957 (with a backwards N).

I mainly want to know if it's corrosive or not but any other info would be great.
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 11:07:34 AM EDT
interesting
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 11:09:18 AM EDT
tag for answer!
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 11:16:05 AM EDT
Oh come on. I know that ARFCOM knows all. Hopefully someone answers.
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 11:19:18 AM EDT
Weird indeed.

I cant find any 30-06 ammo from Russian, but that dman sure looks like Ruskie writing.



I know ammoman has some from Bosnia.......weird indeed.


Do you know the source of that ammo S_W?
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 11:21:55 AM EDT
That is not any M-2 ball type ammo I have ever seen, and I have just about everthing that has been on the market for the last few years.
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 11:22:12 AM EDT
Can't help you on the ammo ID, but I treat all foreign ammo as corrosive regardless of what the box might say.

Ounce of prevention......
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 11:22:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By CavVet:
Weird indeed.

I cant find any 30-06 ammo from Russian, but that dman sure looks like Ruskie writing.



I know ammoman has some from Bosnia.......weird indeed.


Do you know the source of that ammo S_W?



Oh! I forgot to put that in this thread when I copied the stuff from my old thread.

It's supposedly Yugoslavian.
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 11:23:55 AM EDT
The NK (backwards N) is yugo...... its all over my yugo 7.62X39
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 11:25:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/28/2005 7:16:56 AM EDT by nightstalker]
here's a blurb fromt he CMP about how they're buying Yugo 30.'06.

"Ammunition
     The CMP has started selling what seems to be Federal American Eagle .30-06 ammo. This is what they used for the JCG match at Camp Perry this year. Cost for clubs is 35 cents per round, cost for individuals is 45 cents per round. We have been paying about 25 cents per round for surplus M2 Ball. Unfortunately, the CMP is currently out of all types of .30-06. It looks like we will buy a large order of Yugoslavian .30-06 for use in matches next year (21 cents a round). If you get this via e-mail, please reply to me if you intend to purchase .30-06 ammunition from the club at our matches next year. More and more folks have taken up reloading, so we may not need as much ammo as last year. Please let me know. .30 Carbine ammunition is not a problem at this time.   
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 11:25:44 AM EDT
This is the picture of Bosnian on Ammomans site.......




YMMV, but I dont think I would shoot it until someone else has said they have used it before.......I know Garands do not like Regular Commercial ammo.

Did you call CMP and see what they may know?

Link Posted: 12/27/2005 11:27:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By CavVet:
This is the picture of Bosnian on Ammomans site.......

ammoman.com/odd-lots/igman3006.gif


YMMV, but I dont think I would shoot it until someone else has said they have used it before.......I know Garands do not like Regular Commercial ammo.

Did you call CMP and see what they may know?




No, I didn't. That is an excellent idea, however.
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 11:37:33 AM EDT
Think I found something.

www.100megsfree4.com/airground/ammo/yugoslav.htm

Can anyone verify?
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 11:48:18 AM EDT
post on the garand forum at jouster.com
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 5:07:09 PM EDT
Shameless BTT. Can anyone help?
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 5:10:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Sniper_Wolfe:
Think I found something.

www.100megsfree4.com/airground/ammo/yugoslav.htm

Can anyone verify?



looks good to me
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 3:46:59 AM EDT
That appears to be it!
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 3:49:18 AM EDT
On a trip to a dealer recently, he showed me the same stuff and told me it was exactly what's in that link. Good job Clousaeu.
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 5:36:55 AM EDT
What did CMP have to say about it???

Link Posted: 12/28/2005 5:49:48 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 12:30:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CavVet:
What did CMP have to say about it???




I decided not to call them after I found the link to the site about the ammo. Since no one else really seems to have any experience with it, I'll probably still call them sometime this week.

I figure though, if the CMP intends on selling it, it probably isn't corrosive.
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 12:34:08 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 12:53:48 PM EDT
Find a piece of old steel and rough it up in two different areas with some sandpaper. Then pull the bullet with pliers, and dump the powder from a round. Put on some protective eye-wear and leather gloves. Put the empty shell in some vise-grips. Take a punch and hammer, and detonate the primer while pointing the empty shell at the Area 1 of the metal you roughed up. Use Area 2 as a comparision (don't let primer spray get on this area). Let the metal sit for a week in your garage and see if it developes rust. If no rust appears, the round is likely non-corrosive. If rust appears on area 1 and not on area 2, then the round is corrosive.

Note: Be careful because the primer may eject from the round when you detonate it. When I do this I wear a full-face motorcycle helmet, jacket and leather gloves.
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 12:54:47 PM EDT


My girlfriend is Yugoslavian and her translation of the box is as follows.



22 pieces
7.62mm bullets universal projectile m2
letters IK 5801
gun powder NCD02 MBL 5704



She says the IK probably means Lot #.
Link Posted: 12/28/2005 4:58:41 PM EDT
It's good stuff!
I bought a few cans of it maybe 7 or 8 years ago.I didn't notice any corrosiveness to it.Shot just as accurate and as clean as M2 ball.It did smoke quite a bit,though (compared to other stuff).

I still have a can or 2 left somewhere.Mine came packed in .50 cal cans.I haven't seen any in awhile-where'd they get it from?It was cheap when I bought it.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 11:58:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By carguym14:
It's good stuff!
I bought a few cans of it maybe 7 or 8 years ago.I didn't notice any corrosiveness to it.Shot just as accurate and as clean as M2 ball.It did smoke quite a bit,though (compared to other stuff).

I still have a can or 2 left somewhere.Mine came packed in .50 cal cans.I haven't seen any in awhile-where'd they get it from?It was cheap when I bought it.



It was kind of pricey, because it came from a local gun store.

I'll call the CMP right now and ask them.

LHD your girlfriend is awesome, is there any chance of her translating what my Mauser says on it if I emailed a picture to you? Thanks a lot.

TacticalStrat that's a pretty good idea. An even better idea on the motorcycle gear for protection.
Link Posted: 12/29/2005 12:00:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/29/2005 12:01:22 PM EDT by Sniper_Wolfe]
Damn. I forgot, the CMP is closed between Christmas and New Years.

So much for that. I like that corrosiveness test though. I think some day I'll try it with an 8mm round and see just how corrosive corrosive ammo is (intentional repeat, read it out loud ).

Edit: Thanks for the info, carguym14.
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