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Link Posted: 12/26/2005 11:20:36 AM EDT
[#1]
2000 Golf GLS TDI w/larger injectors, 11mm injector pump, Dieselgeek race and intercooler pipes, VR6 clutch, Peloquin limited-slip-differential, Shine Real Street Suspension, Cat fuel filter, OilGuard lube oil bypass filtration unit, factory steel skid plate, etc. etc. etc.

It's a damned fun car to drive and consistently gets 43 mpg or more communting from Seattle to Bellevue WA.
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 11:26:10 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/26/2005 11:51:32 AM EDT
[#3]

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The only car I would be ashamed to drive would be a French one.



Paul, doesnt Renault own controlling interest in Nissan?


A bit...
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 11:53:13 AM EDT
[#4]
I think I have averaged about 24 MPG in my 1989 Acura legend (2.7 liter v6)



Not bad for being a 17 year old car with close to 178,000 miles on it!
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 11:56:42 AM EDT
[#5]

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I think I have averaged about 24 MPG in my 1989 Acura legend (2.7 liter v6)

img328.imageshack.us/img328/878/1989acuralegend4xh.jpg

Not bad for being a 17 year old car with close to 178,000 miles on it!



Very Nice classic Acura.  I wonder what an 89 Thunderbird or 89 Monte Carlo/Lumina runs like now?
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 12:01:15 PM EDT
[#6]

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I think I have averaged about 24 MPG in my 1989 Acura legend (2.7 liter v6)

img328.imageshack.us/img328/878/1989acuralegend4xh.jpg

Not bad for being a 17 year old car with close to 178,000 miles on it!



Very Nice classic Acura.  I wonder what an 89 Thunderbird or 89 Monte Carlo/Lumina runs like now?



Not to sure but I picked up that car for 1 thousand dollars in july and love everything about it.
Cruise control , seat memory functions ( 4 positions) , nice stereo , equlizer , 5 speed , leather seats , auto windows lots and lots of storage compartments and the body and paint are perfect (no rust) and the best thing I like about it is the v6 its pretty swift !
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 12:03:24 PM EDT
[#7]
My Grand Marquis gets about 15 to the gallon, thats about as efficient as I care to go.
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 12:15:01 PM EDT
[#8]

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The only car I would be ashamed to drive would be a French one.



Paul, doesnt Renault own controlling interest in Nissan?


A bit...



Renault owns a 44% of Nissan and Nissan owns 15% of Renault.

Carlos Ghosn is the CEO of both Renault and Nissan.

Renault ownership
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 4:07:12 PM EDT
[#9]
been proud to drive this little toyota truck for years now

Link Posted: 12/26/2005 4:17:53 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/26/2005 4:21:21 PM EDT
[#11]

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we're really happy with our VW jetta wagon TDI.  it has 10 airbags, top of its class in crash ratings and gets 56mpg highway using the cruise control. for my money its way more useful and practical than a hybrid. you can squeeze 5 adults in it. it has the cargo capacity of a small wagon and the german build quality.

if you ask me direct injected diesels are a much more realistic solution than hybrids.


Well you're damn right they are.  Too bad the tree-huggers don't like diesel emissions.

A professor of mine mentioned his sister looked into replacing the batteries on her Prius... I busted out laughing when he said what it cost.  Something over $3000.  Give me a break... or a diesel car.
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 4:39:54 PM EDT
[#12]

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Very Nice classic Acura.  I wonder what an 89 Thunderbird or 89 Monte Carlo/Lumina runs like now?



They run great, they've been scrapped, recycled, melted, rolled, and formed into new Hondas.
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 4:43:03 PM EDT
[#13]

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A professor of mine mentioned his sister looked into replacing the batteries on her Prius... I busted out laughing when he said what it cost.  Something over $3000.  Give me a break... or a diesel car.



The price estimate for replacement Prius batteries has been steadily falling.  I recall when they were about to come out I heard $8000 for a new battery pack.

At $3000, that compares with replacement engines for many vehicles.  I suspect the price will continue to drop as the cars age and demand rises enough to warrant increased production and cost-saving measures.  (I realize that rising demand leading to lower prices makes no sense at first glance, but economies of scale for production of Prius battery packs by Toyota or aftermarket suppliers would make the difference.)

Jim
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 4:47:15 PM EDT
[#14]

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Was curious what the most fuel effiecent car out there with a gas engine you'd drive.

Isn't there a Honda Civic that gets exceptional gas mileage?  I don't know the model number (DX, HX, ????).

Anybody got any info on this?  Thanks.

vmax84



2005 Dodge Magnum  18/24 if you take it easy................ I get 14. Lifes to short to go easy.
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 4:48:03 PM EDT
[#15]
If anyone is ashamed about driving a certain vehicle, they need to get over their small penis...
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 4:58:20 PM EDT
[#16]
I had a 91 corolla for a year  had 230K on it when i got it , coworker was moving cross country and did not want to take the little turd with her , I  beat it mercilessly for  25K sold it to some guy for $100 profit
was nice only buring $11 in  ( $1.40) gas a week
that said all of the 5.o Mustang street cars i had did 25+ on the hiway  18-20 around town if you kept out of it
all of the vettes i had did about the same
current 04 Colorado does 22 hiway  16 around town
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 5:06:28 PM EDT
[#17]
i love my 91 honda crx hf. 45 around town. 50 on the interstate if i stay around 75. bought it new in 91. has been my second car for years.

i have a wrx. requires hi-test but gets decent milage (i dont pay much attention to it though).

the new z06 corvette, 500hp gets 26 mpg on the interstate you treat it right. some owners report up to 28 mpg.. this on a 427 cu motor...

i've been standing on the sideline looking at vettes for a while. prolly cant stomach the 70k for the z06. but i will prolly get at least a standard within the next year or 2. .. but i will keep the crx.
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 5:19:06 PM EDT
[#18]
Psst...change out your air filter.  You'll get a 2mpg boost in both categories, and a bit more boost when you get on her...

I like the Donaldson Blackhawk


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C5 Corvette. 18/28 mpg.

Link Posted: 12/26/2005 7:57:12 PM EDT
[#19]
My STi gets 17-19MPG and that's good enough for me.
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 8:10:30 PM EDT
[#20]

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I am particularly interested in the early to mid Honda Civics.  I thought there was one model that was extremely good on fuel.

vmax84


I believe that is the DX model.



Thanks.

vmax84
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 8:12:51 PM EDT
[#21]
75 porsche 914 with a 180 HP suby motor in stalled running stock suby FI, it got 28 mpg driving cross country at 85 mph with the roof off. it does 0 to 60 in about 5.25 seconds. top speed of about 140 mph, only had it once to 120 for a second. gets from 60 to 110 very quickly, and it will out handle 90% of modern sports cars, at 30 years old.

never checked gas milage around town but if i had to guess i would say about 20, its real hard not to drive the car stop sign to stop sign in the city at full throttle.
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 8:27:08 PM EDT
[#22]
Getting about 28mpg  (90%hwy/10%in town) with this (when the tonno is on)   best was 32 on my trip to IL




Link Posted: 12/26/2005 8:28:29 PM EDT
[#23]
Honestly, why are you afraid of what other drivers might think? I promise no one will question your masculinity for driving a fuel efficient car.
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 8:33:13 PM EDT
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Honestly, why are you afraid of what other drivers might think? I promise no one will question your masculinity for driving a fuel efficient car unless its a new Beetle or a Miata.



Fixed for ya.
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 8:44:22 PM EDT
[#25]
1988 Chevy Sprint  2 door 3 Banger while I was in the service, 48mpg and gas was a buck a gallon. The good ol days......
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 8:52:18 PM EDT
[#26]

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Jetta TDI.
Full framed, 8 airbags, 40 miles to the gallon. Compact enough to be easy to park. Perfect for the city.



Alot of people say that VW's are, but I would have no problem driving one for 40mpg. Currently I have an 02' Maxima, averages about 26mpg city and highway.



The Jetta is the wifes car. Mine is an Expedition.
I driv eher car most of the time though, cause 40 mpg > 14 mpg
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 8:52:52 PM EDT
[#27]

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Jetta TDI.
Full framed, 8 airbags, 40 miles to the gallon. Compact enough to be easy to park. Perfect for the city.


Ummm... since when does Volkswagen make a full-framed car?

Last I checked only Ford made a car with a frame.  Before that, the only cars made with a full-frame within the past 15 years were either made by GM (D/B-body) or Ford (Crown Vic/Grand Marquis/Town Car).



I thought they were......Could be wrong.

Dont rightly givea fuck actually.
Link Posted: 12/26/2005 8:56:39 PM EDT
[#28]
My 36 year old Porsche should get me around 25mpg on the highway, and probably about 15-20 city driving.  

Link Posted: 12/26/2005 9:06:52 PM EDT
[#29]

a 1994 ford escord station wagon with a manual transmition

don't know the exact mileage but I think its in the 30's


I love you honey
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 4:52:21 AM EDT
[#30]
94-96 Buick Roadmaster. Leather, power everthing,room and 22-23 MPG highway. Damn I miss that car!
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 6:08:23 AM EDT
[#31]

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A professor of mine mentioned his sister looked into replacing the batteries on her Prius... I busted out laughing when he said what it cost.  Something over $3000.  Give me a break... or a diesel car.



I teach electronics for Toyota Industrial. The battery in a Pris is guaranteed for 6 years. Also the battery is 100 separate cells that can be replaced one at a time IF they do go bad. You do not have to replace the whole battery.

Also just FYI the Toyota Highlander Hybrid is 236 HP and gets 34-38mpg
Link Posted: 12/27/2005 6:35:38 AM EDT
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I like my Neon, 30MPG intown and 45ish on the highway. It is a safe car, if it gets hit by a larger or heavy car, the car will be trashed, I will likely walk away. I also have a full framed Panther chassis Lincoln, If I get hit hard the car will be OK after replacing some sheetmetal, I may be fine, may not. I would prefer being in a wreck in the Neon than the Towncar.



Don't bet on walking away, I didn't when my Neon was hit in the rear, Thank God my children were not in the back seat, else it would have been funerals.

I replaced it with a Jeep Cherokee and drove it for 3+ years around 100 miles a day and now I have a 2004 Impala that I drive 1000 miles a week and get 30+ MPG on the highway @ 80+AC blowing. The Impala will seat 6, 5 adults comfortably. Plus the ride is much better.

BTW I never saw above 35MPG with my Neon....
Link Posted: 12/30/2005 6:33:40 PM EDT
[#33]

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94-96 Buick Roadmaster. Leather, power everthing,room and 22-23 MPG highway. Damn I miss that car!



I'd sell you mine but it's not running so well these days.
Link Posted: 12/30/2005 6:36:07 PM EDT
[#34]
One a recent road trip I got as much as 33.5 mpg with a Pontiac Grand Am (4-door fleet model).  Not a small car at all.

GunLvr
Link Posted: 12/30/2005 9:17:36 PM EDT
[#35]
My wife gets 32 mpg with her '01 Chrysler Sebring Convertible. I don't!

I owned a Subaru Justy in high school, that puppy got more than 40 mpg with it's three cylinders of pure power, 35 horses trying to break out from under the hood! I was in a rollover in it on graduation night, I could have driven it home if it weren't for the two flats and busted windshield. I totalled it when I got run off the road by a tractor, a concrete culvert did it in..

I drove my mother's Chevy Aveo to the grocery store the other day. I swear I heard circus music playing as me and my 18 friends crawled out of it. There were even elephants and trained dogs... What bugged me the most was the lack of armrests. It was funny, I was able to start the car by leaning in through the open passenger door. I didn't need the power door locks, I just reached over to unlock them. Big difference from my Expedition.

I wouldn't mind a VW Golf or a Mini Cooper, I just need something that can haul 7 people comfortably once a day...a luggage rack, duct tape, and bungie cords are out.
Link Posted: 12/30/2005 9:29:13 PM EDT
[#36]
Got an 05 Chevy Cobalt (Manual) in Agust.  Average about 28-30 MPG mostly city.  Took a trip to Memphis for Thanksgiving and was averaging 35+ with two adults and a child with baggage.  Great car for the money.
Link Posted: 12/30/2005 9:41:51 PM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:
Was curious what the most fuel effiecent car out there with a gas engine you'd drive.

Isn't there a Honda Civic that gets exceptional gas mileage?  I don't know the model number (DX, HX, ????).

Anybody got any info on this?  Thanks.

vmax84



It's the VX.  I've got a 94 with 198,xxx.  45+MPG.  AC, Cruise control, nice Stereo.  
Used to have a CRX HF.  50MPG.  Good luck finding one, you'll be bidding against the ricers.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 2:01:44 AM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:
Was curious what the most fuel effiecent car out there with a gas engine you'd drive.

Isn't there a Honda Civic that gets exceptional gas mileage?  I don't know the model number (DX, HX, ????).

Anybody got any info on this?  Thanks.

vmax84



I'm guessing you're talking about the 2001-2005 HX coupe.  For whatever reason Honda didn't make a HX sedan.  The HX mileage was 36 city / 44 hwy.  Mileage for coupes and sedans for those model years with a manual tranny was 32/37.  I believe the automatics were 30/38.  I have an EX coupe w/manual tranny and do better than the advertised numbers all the time.  Hope this helps.

Edmunds.com is a decent source of information.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 2:10:20 AM EDT
[#39]
We bought a Mazda 3 and find the car very appealing. It's rated 35 MPG and isn't an econobox. It has the flair of a Jetta and the performance of a Honda. All for under 16K.
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 2:48:42 AM EDT
[#40]
If all vehicles were the same size then the impacts would be equal ex. Corolla vs. Civic in accident impact was not be as severe as civic vs. suburban. Which we the consumer are already doing this ourselves without govt. regualtion.
Give it about 10 years when the new large vehicles being bought today will wear out. More and more people are buying smaller cars. This will in the long term make things more pleasurable if you ever get in accident.


Link Posted: 12/31/2005 7:17:40 AM EDT
[#41]
My 91 Mustang LX Coupe with the 331( poked & stroked 5 liter) ci FI  engine.  Gets 16-18 mpg.  Runs low 12's .  Keeps the rice burners  at bay !!!
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 8:59:59 AM EDT
[#42]

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If all vehicles were the same size then the impacts would be equal ex. Corolla vs. Civic in accident impact was not be as severe as civic vs. suburban. Which we the consumer are already doing this ourselves without govt. regualtion.
Give it about 10 years when the new large vehicles being bought today will wear out. More and more people are buying smaller cars. This will in the long term make things more pleasurable if you ever get in accident.



Not really.  I don't have citations to point you to but I recall that the vehicle mix in the early 90s was considerd bad--lots of smaller vehicles, but plenty of delivery and other work trucks, buses, etc.  Seems to me like work trucks and bus and delivery drivers have become worse--less safe--than they were 10-20 years ago.  

Also as the roads and cars become "safer" people take more risks (they risk-adjust their driving styles).

I think Sam Peltzman of the University of Chicago has done some work on this.

GunLvr
Link Posted: 12/31/2005 9:09:33 AM EDT
[#43]
No doubt about it - if I could actually get one here in the US I would buy a Citroen C1 - My friend had one when I was back in Scotland recently.

He gets about 60, yes 60 mpg out of it.  You don't need to get a hybrid to get decent mileage.

But noone is telling us this in the US.



PS the one I would reall ylike ot have is the Citroen Picasso  - a lot bigger car but still has excellent milegae - tray tables in the back seats an all.
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