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Posted: 12/25/2005 5:13:17 AM EDT
My premise is that a male must be emasculated in order to be a liberal. That's all.

rk
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 5:13:56 AM EDT
+1
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 5:15:57 AM EDT

Originally Posted By axl:
My premise is that a male must be emasculated in order to be a liberal. That's all.

rk



So much for tolerance and a difference of opinion. Too much testerone there, axl. Calm down already.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 5:16:03 AM EDT
No arguement from me.

I'll add that to make a liberal urinate on himself from fear is quite easy.

HS1
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 5:17:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
+1




+2
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 5:25:23 AM EDT
So, is a Libertarian male a liberal or conservative?
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 5:31:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AmericanPatriot1776:
So, is a Libertarian male a liberal or conservative?



libertarian.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 5:36:14 AM EDT
If it wasn't for the liberals, who would help the ladies decorate and do that colour matching thing?
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 5:54:01 AM EDT
[jeeD] What's a Liberal? [/jeeD]
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 5:54:56 AM EDT
Concise.

Correct.

Link Posted: 12/25/2005 5:55:01 AM EDT
No offense axl,but that would be in contention for most obvious post of 2005,just right behind the "water is wet" thread
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 5:55:34 AM EDT
sounds like someone got them a lump of coal in their stocking this AM axl

Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:02:24 AM EDT

If you are male and liberal you are a pussy.




If you are a women and republican you are ugly.



sorry, but for the most part women in politics are pretty dog ugly
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:22:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/25/2005 6:38:51 AM EDT by Oslow]

Originally Posted By rogue007:

If you are a women and republican you are ugly.




If you are a drug user and a butt pirate, you are an idiot.


Oh, and Merry Christmas!
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:27:32 AM EDT

Originally Posted By axl:
My premise is that a male must be emasculated in order to be a liberal. That's all.

rk


Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:31:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By rogue007:

If you are male and liberal you are a pussy.




If you are a women and republican you are ugly.



sorry, but for the most part women in politics are pretty dog ugly





Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:34:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Oslow:

Originally Posted By rogue007:

If you are a women and republican you are ugly.




If you are a drug user and a butt pirate, you are an idiot.



Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:35:13 AM EDT
Liberals commonly believe that gender roles and behavior are purely social constructs. Consequently, it is true that liberal men are often internally feminized, even if they don't display effete mannerisms. I frequently observe leftist men engaging in stereotypical female behavior like chattering with no specific purpose, taking early recourse to compromise as though it were a goal in itself rather than a necessary evil, making decisions based on emotion rather than reason, and so forth.

Of course, it may just be a ploy they use to get sex from leftist chicks.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:39:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By FLAL1A:
Liberals commonly believe that gender roles and behavior are purely social constructs. Consequently, it is true that liberal men are often internally feminized, even if they don't display effete mannerisms. I frequently observe leftist men engaging in stereotypical female behavior like chattering with no specific purpose, taking early recourse to compromise as though it were a goal in itself rather than a necessary evil, making decisions based on emotion rather than reason, and so forth.



Then you have the men who are worried about their "manliness" if they don't act a certain way, listen to certain types of music, have certain types of friends. You see it here all the time in threads, and guys talking about losing their "man card". People need to chill out.

Gender roles and behavior ARE social constructs; thats why men and women act differently in different cultures. Men do things differently elsewhere than they might do here. Doesn't make them less of a man.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:40:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By colklink:
No offense axl,but that would be in contention for most obvious post of 2005,just right behind the "water is wet" thread



Exactly. Being a pussy is at their core of thier belief system. A liberal trying to learn to be a man would be like a woman trying to learn pissing while standing up.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:40:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/25/2005 6:40:58 AM EDT by Oslow]

Originally Posted By tc556guy:

Gender roles and behavior ARE social constructs; thats why men and women act differently in different cultures. Men do things differently elsewhere than they might do here. Doesn't make them less of a man.




Bullshit


Oh, and Merry Christmas!
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:42:25 AM EDT
So Am I a well hung badass because I am a Repub or vise-versa
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:44:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Oslow:

Originally Posted By tc556guy:

Gender roles and behavior ARE social constructs; thats why men and women act differently in different cultures. Men do things differently elsewhere than they might do here. Doesn't make them less of a man.




Bullshit


Oh, and Merry Christmas!



Merry Christmas to you as well.
Do you see men here in the US routinely hold hands? Routinely kiss other men? Just to name a couple of things that would get men mocked in the US here on AR15.com. These are social traits in other countries that are not practiced here, but I bet you'd offend men in those countries if you told them there were less of a man for doing that sort of thing.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:51:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By tc556guy:

Originally Posted By FLAL1A:
Liberals commonly believe that gender roles and behavior are purely social constructs. Consequently, it is true that liberal men are often internally feminized, even if they don't display effete mannerisms. I frequently observe leftist men engaging in stereotypical female behavior like chattering with no specific purpose, taking early recourse to compromise as though it were a goal in itself rather than a necessary evil, making decisions based on emotion rather than reason, and so forth.



Then you have the men who are worried about their "manliness" if they don't act a certain way, listen to certain types of music, have certain types of friends. You see it here all the time in threads, and guys talking about losing their "man card". People need to chill out.

Gender roles and behavior ARE social constructs; thats why men and women act differently in different cultures. Men do things differently elsewhere than they might do here. Doesn't make them less of a man.



Not quite true. Do a little digging on the behavior of 2nd generation residents of an Israeli kibbutz. The girls and boys demanded a return to traditional gender roles even when completely cut off from any external example of what those roles are. Male chimpanzees, when given a selection of toys, choose the ball and the toy car which the girl chimps choose the dolls. This is basic genetically inherited behavior.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:56:38 AM EDT

Originally Posted By rogue007:

If you are male and liberal you are a pussy.




If you are a women and republican you are ugly.



sorry, but for the most part women in politics are pretty dog ugly



Anne Coulter. That's all I'll say.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:57:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By tc556guy:

Do you see men here in the US routinely hold hands? Routinely kiss other men?




DUDE! I stay the hell out of those places!
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:57:36 AM EDT

If you are male and liberal you are a pussy.


You state the obvious.....................100% TRUE................but obvious to anyone with functioning testicles.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 6:58:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Oslow:

Originally Posted By tc556guy:

Do you see men here in the US routinely hold hands? Routinely kiss other men?




DUDE! I stay the hell out of those places!



My point exactly; your post demonstrates that that behavior is seen a certain way in the US, but is considered "normal" behavior in other places. Hence, the idea that that type of behavior is or is not "male" behavior is a social construct of our society, not some sort of ingrained manliness.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 7:01:37 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Peak_Oil:
Not quite true. Do a little digging on the behavior of 2nd generation residents of an Israeli kibbutz. The girls and boys demanded a return to traditional gender roles even when completely cut off from any external example of what those roles are. Male chimpanzees, when given a selection of toys, choose the ball and the toy car which the girl chimps choose the dolls. This is basic genetically inherited behavior.


I remember that study being in the media. IIRC, it was found after the fact that the kids had not bene as isolated from outside influences as the study writers had assumed.Its the same thing you find with parents in the US who try to raise their kids in geneder neutral environments. Outside influences will affect the childs sexual identity and image.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 7:05:37 AM EDT
Pretty accurate if you ask me!
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 7:07:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/25/2005 7:09:10 AM EDT by fxntime]
Mr Clean 1, Rogue007 0. Game over.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 7:10:52 AM EDT

Originally Posted By tc556guy:

Originally Posted By Oslow:

Originally Posted By tc556guy:

Do you see men here in the US routinely hold hands? Routinely kiss other men?




DUDE! I stay the hell out of those places!



My point exactly; your post demonstrates that that behavior is seen a certain way in the US, but is considered "normal" behavior in other places. Hence, the idea that that type of behavior is or is not "male" behavior is a social construct of our society, not some sort of ingrained manliness.



It may be Christmas but if you try to kiss me I'll smack you!
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 7:17:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By tc556guy:
Gender roles and behavior ARE social constructs; thats why men and women act differently in different cultures.



That is true only marginally if at all. While some aspects of gender roles and behavior may be less pronounced in some cultures than others, the fundamental characteristics of gender are nearly universal. That's why boys who are raised by parents who give them Barbie dolls to avoid gender stereotyping and violent play will bend the dolls at the waist and use them as pistols. No matter how much granola Mom and Dad eat, 99 times out of a hundred, if left to their own devices, Jack will play with guns and trucks and Jenny will play with dolls and tea sets.

There may be some tribe of a hundred blue-eyed Africans in the bush somewhere among whom there is some degree of role reversal, but the number is vanishingly small. A significant number of sociologists (not that sociology is worth a pitcher of warm piss, but nobody else studies these things) hold that there is no persuasive evidence of any extant or historical matriarchal society (defined as one in which political power is predominantly wielded by women), although there are a small number of matrilineal societies (in which inheritance passes on the mother's side).

The examples most people use in attempts to demonstrate that gender roles are social constructs - societies where women are responsible for growing crops or otherwise acting as breadwinners - don't make the cut for the simple reason that the men are not involved in the "reversal." While the women are tending the animals and the fields, the men aren't at home mopping floors and tending babies: they are napping, fishing, hunting, getting drunk, playing cards and generally hanging out with their buddies. In those societies, women are responsible for traditional female tasks and for the tedious and burdensome aspects of traditional male tasks. I don't believe you'll find any society in which women have had primary responsibility for defending the group or otherwise fighting on its behalf.

If you know of any societies where aggression, the exercise of political power, violence, decision-making, breadwinning, et c. et c. are primarily the business of women and housekeeping, nurturing, child-rearing, reconciliation, et c. et c. are primarily the business of men, (or any culture that otherwise demonstrates that gender roles are as malleable as you claim) I'd like to hear about it.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 7:22:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By tc556guy:

Originally Posted By Oslow:

Originally Posted By tc556guy:

Do you see men here in the US routinely hold hands? Routinely kiss other men?




DUDE! I stay the hell out of those places!



My point exactly; your post demonstrates that that behavior is seen a certain way in the US, but is considered "normal" behavior in other places. Hence, the idea that that type of behavior is or is not "male" behavior is a social construct of our society, not some sort of ingrained manliness.



You're conflating gender roles and gender-driven behavior with social customs. Indian or Arab men holding hands is not in any way an indication that the fundamental characteristics of manhood - in contradistinction to womanhood - are different in those societies. You don't see a lot of men in America eating snails, either. That goes exactly nowhere toward demonstrating that gender roles and behavior are social constructs.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 7:24:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/25/2005 7:25:21 AM EDT by bastiat]

Originally Posted By tc556guy:

Originally Posted By axl:
My premise is that a male must be emasculated in order to be a liberal. That's all.

rk



So much for tolerance and a difference of opinion. Too much testerone there, axl. Calm down already.



sheesh.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 7:27:40 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 7:29:12 AM EDT
You can always count on a lib taking the puss side of any issue.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 8:21:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/25/2005 8:24:07 AM EDT by tc556guy]

Originally Posted By FLAL1A:
You're conflating gender roles and gender-driven behavior with social customs. Indian or Arab men holding hands is not in any way an indication that the fundamental characteristics of manhood - in contradistinction to womanhood - are different in those societies. You don't see a lot of men in America eating snails, either. That goes exactly nowhere toward demonstrating that gender roles and behavior are social constructs.


Apparently I am far from the only one with that "confusion" then, because you see people posting on here all the time about some behavior they feel threatens their definition of being manly.
As to your other question, while there are no current examples, there HAVE been societies where the females had more political power than any current examples I would be able to cite.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 8:46:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By tc556guy:

Do you see men here in the US routinely hold hands? Routinely kiss other men? Just to name a couple of things that would get men mocked in the US here on AR15.com. These are social traits in other countries that are not practiced here, but I bet you'd offend men in those countries if you told them there were less of a man for doing that sort of thing.





Well, then maybe you should move!

Funny, tcguy, when I saw the title of this thread you were the first "guy" I thought of.

As for the original post:

+1
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 8:48:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/25/2005 8:50:24 AM EDT by theliberating1]
Conservatives are cock sucking Christian faggots who lack the ability to think freely. That is all.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 8:50:16 AM EDT
IBTB

In Before The Ban
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 8:52:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By theliberating1:
Conservatives are cock sucking Christian faggots who lack the ability to think freely. That is all.



Nice fantasy you have going there.

Oh, and thanks for proving our point.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 8:54:01 AM EDT
Actually before it was edited, he implied the author was a cocksucking faggot. IIRC.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 9:03:06 AM EDT
A libertarian is a reformed liberal who still wants to smoke pot.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 9:03:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/25/2005 9:11:21 AM EDT by theliberating1]

Originally Posted By Itchy:
Actually before it was edited, he implied the author was a cocksucking faggot. IIRC.



No, I'm implying that all conservatives are cock sucking faggots... But only because I want to type something w/ an equivalent level stupidity as the author. I swear to god these "liberals/democrat are pussies etc." posts are authored by some of the dumbest people on the planet... it's a wonder they have the ability to use a keyboard.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 9:08:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/25/2005 9:08:52 AM EDT by drjarhead]

Originally Posted By theliberating1:

Originally Posted By Itchy:
Actually before it was edited, he implied the author was a cocksucking faggot. IIRC.



No, I'm implying that all conservatives are cock sucking faggots... But only because I want to type something w/ an equivalent level stupidity as the author. I swear to god these "conservatives are pussies etc." posts are authored by some of the dumbest people on the planet... it's a wonder they have the ability to use a keyboard.



Yeah, thank God for all of you socialist faggots who are there to guide us out of our dark, dank caves.

You have a lot of anger. Perhaps you should go deeper into exploring your feminine side.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 9:09:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Itchy:
Actually before it was edited, he implied the author was a cocksucking faggot. IIRC.



I always say, no accounting for taste.
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 9:10:53 AM EDT

Originally Posted By theliberating1:

Originally Posted By Itchy:
Actually before it was edited, he implied the author was a cocksucking faggot. IIRC.



No, I'm implying that all conservatives are cock sucking faggots... But only because I want to type something w/ an equivalent level stupidity as the author. I swear to god these "conservatives are pussies etc." posts are authored by some of the dumbest people on the planet... it's a wonder they have the ability to use a keyboard.



Look, it's only OK to fuck another man in anger.

Link Posted: 12/25/2005 9:18:10 AM EDT
Here is a video made of my liberal ass reffing a soccer game... www.quacked.co.uk/funny-videos/818/gay-referee.html
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 9:21:21 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Itchy:

Originally Posted By theliberating1:

Originally Posted By Itchy:
Actually before it was edited, he implied the author was a cocksucking faggot. IIRC.



No, I'm implying that all conservatives are cock sucking faggots... But only because I want to type something w/ an equivalent level stupidity as the author. I swear to god these "conservatives are pussies etc." posts are authored by some of the dumbest people on the planet... it's a wonder they have the ability to use a keyboard.



Look, it's only OK to fuck another man in anger.





Your a sick man
Link Posted: 12/25/2005 9:54:41 AM EDT

Originally Posted By drjarhead:

Well, then maybe you should move!



Been a lot of other places. Very little in living anywhere else.


Funny, tcguy, when I saw the title of this thread you were the first "guy" I thought of.



I would think you'd be thinking of another guy on December 25th, but thats your gig.
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