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Posted: 12/23/2005 2:36:57 PM EDT
Hi Everyone,
I am going to buy a used handgun for carrying. I am looking to get one in either 9mm or 40 cal. I was about to purchase a glock 32 about an hour ago and then I was going to buya conversion barrel then I started looking at the USP compact. Damm, I cant make up my dam mind now. How do you all like you USP compacts compared to your compact glocks.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 2:39:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/23/2005 2:41:24 PM EDT by oneSoneK]
The G32 (and 19 and 23) are very nice handguns, for the price they are excellent. I like HK better personally, but the USP .45 Compact I own is just a little too small for my hand, which is why I am selling it. However, my G19 fits me very well.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 2:40:49 PM EDT
As a G23 and HK USP owner, all I can say is "Get Both". The official AR15 answer to any of these questions.

Semper Fi
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 2:41:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By USMC2111:
As a G23 and HK USP owner, all I can say is "Get Both". The official AR15 answer to any of these questions.

Semper Fi




+1
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 2:42:09 PM EDT
Never owned a glock, but I love my USP45.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 2:43:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/23/2005 2:44:07 PM EDT by ARDunstan]
They are both very good pistols.
However, if your HK breaks, send it off
to HK for 6 weeks or so.

ETA: HK USP pistols NEED an armorer to be repaired.

If your Glock breaks, you can fix it yourself in
a few minutes after waiting for the part to arrive.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 2:43:28 PM EDT
Get the HK.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 2:43:44 PM EDT
I find my G23 easier to shoot than my USP40C (snappy recoil), but everyone is different. But the USP45F is a joy to shoot.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 2:52:34 PM EDT
They are both good pistols, get the one you like the best.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 2:53:34 PM EDT
Glock 21.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 2:59:14 PM EDT
I strongly suggest getting the P2000SK in 40. Glocks are good, HKs are sheer perfection. One thing I hate about the firearms we are allowed to buy is that for the most part, they seem to be manufactured in an industry that is 20 years behind the rest of modern industry. Thus you get a lot of variation in reliability, accuracy, workmanship, etc... between copies. Not with HKs. They are smooth as silk, eat anything, utterly reliable (my USPF 45 is the only firearm I've ever owned that's never jammed), and will last forever. The USP is a great shooter but the downfall is ergonomics IMO. The P2000s solve that plus they use a standard rail (finally!).
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 3:03:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ctprelude:
Never owned a glock, but I love my USP45.




I'm going to add a +1 to that. My USP 45 is one of the few things I trust.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 3:03:18 PM EDT
I have had both and eventually settled on the Glock 19. This was for one and only one reason, though - the Glock fit my hand better. During its tenure with me, the USP functioned 100% with everything I could feed it.

My opinion - see if you can try both and buy the one that fits you and shoots better for you. This is definitely a win-win decision!
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 3:03:24 PM EDT
had both and setted on a sig220

out of the 2 the you listed i like HK a little better

pick one up and bassically what ever feels better in your hand go for it, they are both good handguns, and will serve you well, the only thing that i like about HK better is they retain the value fairly well wheras the market is floded with glocks
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 3:04:39 PM EDT
I'd get the glock 23.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 3:06:29 PM EDT
For the money, I'd get the Glock. H&K USP's are not $150 more reliable or accurate and the slides are wider making them more difficult/uncomfortable to conceal.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 3:11:23 PM EDT
I have a USPc .40 (EDC) and a G26. I also have a few other things, but I will limit my post to these two guns...

I have also gotten plenty of trigger time on the G17, 19, 21, 22 & 34.

I carry my HK religiously and the G26 sits in the range bag or times I need a smaller carry gun, which isn't often.

I don't like the grip angle on the Glocks and tend to shoot other handguns much better than Glocks. To say I like the USPs better than Glocks would be an understatement.

But, a Glock is like an AR; every gun nut should have one in their holster, range bag, safe, pocket, glovebox, etc.

To say one is better than the other is an exercise in mental masturbation. Both are capable handguns that will serve a long duty life for their owner(s). I do like the option of different trigger/safety/action variants on the HK. I never got used to the Safe Action on the Glocks.

Get both.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 3:11:25 PM EDT
IMHO hard to beat a Glock if you want a 9mm...
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 3:15:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By squeezecockerp7m8:
IMHO hard to beat a Glock if you want a 9mm...



Ahh.. the irony!
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 3:18:04 PM EDT
When shooting LEO combat courses, the Glock is superior to tradition pistols.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 3:19:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By P806:
When shooting LEO combat courses, the Glock is superior to tradition pistols.



I haven't had issues with the HKs, Sigs or 1911s I have shot combat courses with...
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 3:20:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/23/2005 3:20:46 PM EDT by falaholic1]
Glock or H&K? Well, get the Sig of course!
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 3:20:57 PM EDT
Try both. Both are great.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 3:25:56 PM EDT
I have pretty big hands, and I find I can shoot my USP40c alot more accurately than a G23. But on the other hand as someone else said, I can conceal my G22 much better than the USP even though it is full size. Also, I can shoot my G22 better than either pistol. But I love both my H&K and my Glock.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 3:25:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/23/2005 3:28:29 PM EDT by motown_steve]
18 responses and no Kaboom???

I shoot alot and I have had a wide variety of guns, something in just about every flavor at one time or another.

I sold both of my Glocks this year because the didn't fit my hand well. Now I have an HK P2000, and I think that it is a very nice gun. I also have a couple of Sigs, and I am already a huge fan.

However, my carry gun is a Springfield XD subcompact in 9mm. It's accurate, user friendly, pleasant to shoot and compact. I really can't think of anything that I would rather carry.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 3:29:53 PM EDT
either one would be a good choice....having said that, i love the H&Ks
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 3:30:41 PM EDT
for a 9mm carry gun I think the G-19 is the best.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 3:33:36 PM EDT
I have 2 Glock 17s and an HK USP45
The HK sits in the safe and I shoot my older Glock all the time. And I mean all the time. Maintenance and trouble shooting is a breeze. Very accurate(as is the HK) and after a lot of practice I can really kick ass with it.

After looking at 1911's, Sigs, HKs, etc I decided after a lot of thought that I am going with Glocks for my family and will buy a couple more before too long. As a result I also bought a lot of Glock spare parts for maintenance and repairs. Very complete amount of small parts for my Glocks(from CDNN) very, very cheap. Couldn't believe it.

Mags are also cheap and easy to find. HK wants over $40 for one f'ing mag. What a ripoff.
On top of the that, both my HK mags had the springs weaken in no time. I got replacement springs from Wolff but why the Hell should I? For that kind of cash I should get mags that arent' going to fail the 3rd time I shot the damn thing. Really soured me.
And it got me to make FALs my main battle rifles instead of going for HK91's.
Youcan also get 33rd Glock mags which is pretty damn sweet.

The one thing you might not like on the Glock is the safety. Trigger discipline is essential or you will shoot yourself or someone else. That, however, is something you should have anyway.

Glocks are awesome IMO.
Will get a G26 and either another G17 or a G19.

I'd go with a 9mm. Not a .40 fan and if you can shoot what you aim at it will do the job. Ammo options abound and that also solves any concerns with 9mm IMO. I like the higher capacity anyhow. I'll take 17 rounds of 9mm anyday, and fill my target with half a mag in under 2 secs. And yeah, I do practice that.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 3:36:11 PM EDT
If you have the extra scrap go with the HK, If NOT Glock is a fine choice too!
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 3:39:00 PM EDT
as stated earlier get what ever feels good in your hands and hits the target to your satisfaction,remember this is going to be Your life saving what you choose regardless of manufacture/caliber it's your defense for your life.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 3:40:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/23/2005 3:41:31 PM EDT by glock223]



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Link Posted: 12/23/2005 3:48:02 PM EDT
Hk compared to Glock???

That's like comparing apples to meadow-muffins

Do you want to trust your life to something that won't handle all ammo and fires from an unsupported chamber?

Get the Hk!
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 4:02:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/23/2005 4:03:00 PM EDT by JaredB]
One thing i would like to say about striker and single action fired pistols is that what happens when you pull the trigger and it does not fire. With a DA you can pull the trigger again and more often than not it will fire on the second try. With a striker or single action you have to reset the action all together it does not make much of a difference when at the range but in when your adrenaline is pumping and you are pulling away at that trigger it could matter. Of course proper training and a cool head go a very long way.

TAP RACK BANG!
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 4:11:29 PM EDT
how about this?

try both then decide.

Link Posted: 12/23/2005 4:18:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ARDunstan:
They are both very good pistols.
However, if your HK breaks, send it off
to HK for 6 weeks or so.

ETA: HK USP pistols NEED an armorer to be repaired.

If your Glock breaks, you can fix it yourself in
a few minutes after waiting for the part to arrive.



Bullshit .....besides they don't break.

internet rumors......


Bomber
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 4:22:00 PM EDT
Get the Glock.

The HK isn't a bad gun, but it isn't worth the extra money if you aren't scared to carry a pistol with no external safety.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 4:22:59 PM EDT
Go to Thunder Ranch or Gunsirte for a week with whatever handgun you currently own. If at the end of the week you must have a new handgun, then buy the same make and model that had the least malfunctions and highest scores in the class.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 4:23:31 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thebomber:

Originally Posted By ARDunstan:
They are both very good pistols.
However, if your HK breaks, send it off
to HK for 6 weeks or so.

ETA: HK USP pistols NEED an armorer to be repaired.

If your Glock breaks, you can fix it yourself in
a few minutes after waiting for the part to arrive.



Bullshit .....besides they don't break.

internet rumors......


Bomber



No, a Glock is very easy to tear down and rebuild. There isn't a part on one I couldn't replace in short time.

But they do run and run and run.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 4:23:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
how about this?

try both then decide.




Fuck that.

Buy one, then rabidly attack supporters of the other!
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 4:24:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Tomislav:

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
how about this?

try both then decide.




Fuck that.

Buy one, then rabidly attack supporters of the other!



all in time, all in time, this one is still in the learning phase
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 4:25:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ARDunstan:
.
.
If your Glock breaks, you can fix it yourself in
a few minutes after waiting for the part to arrive.


My now-closed indoor range had a rental Glock 17 that shot 500,000 rounds before cracking the slide(which was replaced); and when the range closed, the G17 had shot 750,000 "official" rounds. The range management knows that customers had smuggled in extra rounds from Wall-Mart etc. I doubt that you will break anything, before you go bankrupt shooting the Glock in an attempt to break it. The counter jockeys only clean the gun when the customer complains of jamming and only very cursory.
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 4:27:35 PM EDT
GLOCK 19
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 5:23:03 PM EDT
Thanks for you opinions guys. I only have $550 so I think I am going to go with the G23 3rd gen. And then purchase the 9mm conversion barrel so I can shoot both calibers.

But ,,,the G32 I was looking at was only $400 but its a 357 sig. I guess I can always buy conversion barels to shoot 9mm or 40 cal out of it. So I still have some deciding to do but it will be a glock,So if anyone has a kick butt deal on a G23 or ? let me know.
thanks
Brian
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 5:25:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/23/2005 5:26:03 PM EDT by TheRedHorseman]
good call on the glock 23, I carry one every day.

btw, CDNN has LEO "used"(hardly) 13 round mags for $8.99
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 5:37:15 PM EDT
It's ar15.com: GET BOTH!
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 5:53:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Lynch_Family:
Thanks for you opinions guys. I only have $550 so I think I am going to go with the G23 3rd gen. And then purchase the 9mm conversion barrel so I can shoot both calibers.

But ,,,the G32 I was looking at was only $400 but its a 357 sig. I guess I can always buy conversion barels to shoot 9mm or 40 cal out of it. So I still have some deciding to do but it will be a glock,So if anyone has a kick butt deal on a G23 or ? let me know.
thanks
Brian



F#ck that!! Sell a kidney, a relative, whatever it takes, and get this!

Link Posted: 12/23/2005 5:55:35 PM EDT
seriously, what is with HK and their super high bore axis fetish?
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 5:58:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/23/2005 5:58:19 PM EDT by ARDunstan]

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
seriously, what is with HK and their super high bore axis fetish?



Its a macho thing.
You wouldn't understand.


Link Posted: 12/23/2005 6:04:37 PM EDT
Ya, that is very nice but I bet the price tag on that sucker is way up there> Do you know how much one them babies cost????


Originally Posted By DukeSnookems:

Originally Posted By The_Lynch_Family:
Thanks for you opinions guys. I only have $550 so I think I am going to go with the G23 3rd gen. And then purchase the 9mm conversion barrel so I can shoot both calibers.

But ,,,the G32 I was looking at was only $400 but its a 357 sig. I guess I can always buy conversion barels to shoot 9mm or 40 cal out of it. So I still have some deciding to do but it will be a glock,So if anyone has a kick butt deal on a G23 or ? let me know.
thanks
Brian



F#ck that!! Sell a kidney, a relative, whatever it takes, and get this!

www.hkpro.com/p3000side.jpg

Link Posted: 12/23/2005 6:05:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ARDunstan:

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:
seriously, what is with HK and their super high bore axis fetish?



Its a macho thing.
You wouldn't understand.





like "I'm so macho I can take 2 whole seconds for a doubletap with a 9mm"
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 6:09:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/23/2005 6:11:50 PM EDT by FREEFALLE7]
If you want a true test of the Glock vrs HK go here

ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=4&t=13658

After you read that make your decision.

Hell Glocks repel bullets also



For me its the Glock

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