Warning

 

Close

Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Confirm Cancel
Member Login
Posted: 12/21/2005 12:55:25 PM EDT
How many firearms before you become a 'collector'?

Or did those rifles and handguns just sneak into your safe while you were just making plans for defending your house?

Just curious.

Link Posted: 12/21/2005 12:57:54 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 12:58:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/21/2005 1:00:34 PM EDT by PromptCritical]
I would say that any firearms past the basics would make you a collector. The definition of "the basics", however, is somewhat fluid.

Owning guns that aren't owned for a specific "need" would be collecting.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 1:04:37 PM EDT
I'm shooting enthusiast with a well stocked equipment cabinet.

Link Posted: 12/21/2005 1:09:10 PM EDT
I consider myself a collector because I have more then enough to meet my need. But then again, I also need more.



Abe
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 1:09:53 PM EDT
When I hit the 20 mark, I registered with the state of MD as a collector.

Then when I hit the 30 mark I moved to VA where there is no such think as a "collector" to sign up for.


Link Posted: 12/21/2005 1:10:06 PM EDT
I'd like to be some day, but for now I'm just a shooter.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 1:11:44 PM EDT
I don't collect; I just have an arsenal.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 1:12:23 PM EDT
I don't know...you tell me...I have over 60 longarms and a dozen pistols

But it did just sort of sneak up on me...I started with one or two, and before you know it, I'm over-run...

Mainly WWII and earlier bolts (20 each of Enfields and Kar98k's....)
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 1:12:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By tc6969:
I am a licensed C&R collector with over a dozen in the stable.


+1
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 1:12:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/21/2005 1:13:38 PM EDT by TheCynic]

Originally Posted By tc6969:
I am a licensed C&R collector with over a dozen in the stable.


Ditto.

eta: Dozen? Lightweight. When you buy your third safe, give me a call...
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 1:13:46 PM EDT
imo, collector means you have lots of safe queens. i hate safe queens
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 1:14:04 PM EDT
While I may have a pretty nice collection (IMO), I'm more of a hobbyist/shooter/tinkerer than a collector. I think if I were a collector I'd be going after old or rare guns, as opposed to blasters.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 1:18:06 PM EDT
ONce you have more than one for each hand, you are a collector.

Link Posted: 12/21/2005 1:20:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TheCynic:

Originally Posted By tc6969:
I am a licensed C&R collector with over a dozen in the stable.


Ditto.

eta: Dozen? Lightweight. When you buy your third safe, give me a call...



Same goes for me. I have a particular fondness for the M1 Garand.

C&R related story: A buddy of mine was checking out my RC K98 Nazi Mauser and said, "Where can I get one of those Jew stompers cheap?" I tried not to laugh, I swear.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 1:32:14 PM EDT
I was a Collector until the traggic boating accident. All that's left is a 10/22 and a S&W .38 Special.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 1:40:05 PM EDT
I buy a particular gun because I have a use for it at that time. I don't consider myself a collector, nor do i have the income to collect many guns I can't immediately justify the cost of.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 1:42:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TheCynic:

Originally Posted By tc6969:
I am a licensed C&R collector with over a dozen in the stable.


Ditto.

eta: Dozen? Lightweight. When you buy your third safe, give me a call...



+3
dozen is nothing. I have you more than doubled.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 1:43:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/21/2005 1:44:16 PM EDT by Bubbatheredneck]
IMO, collector is not just someone with a lot of guns. A collection has a purpose/goal to be a true collection. It can be lofty or rather mundane goal, but a collection has to have an endpoint.

I have a friend that is a serious student/collector of M1 carbines and trench guns. He has 95% or better carbines in more configuration than I knew existed. He will dump a 95% one for a 98% identical model in a heartbeat.

A collection of AR's would be having one from every manufacturer or one of every Colt variant. Having two Colts, an Oly and a Bushmaster just means you have a bunch of AR's.

I have a bunch of guns, but my collection aspect is aimed more at hunting certain animals under a mutitude of conditions and some would call it a battery as opposed to a collection.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 1:44:23 PM EDT
I have at least 50 firearms of various sorts around the house, but I wouldn't consider myself a collector. More an accumulator. To qualify as a true collector, I think there has to be some method to the accumulation beyond thinking "that's cool, I want one (or several)."
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 1:44:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/21/2005 1:44:58 PM EDT by RIA45ACP]
To me a collector is someone who buys firearms just to look at and they almost never shoot them, and they would never think about taking them out into the field cause they might get scratched. I have several guns I dont really need, but they all get used, I baby them a little but if they get a scratch here and there it doesnt bother me. So I guess what im saying is I dont consider myself a collector.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 1:56:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/21/2005 1:57:44 PM EDT by HardShell]

Originally Posted By JohnTheTexican:
I have at least 50 firearms of various sorts around the house, but I wouldn't consider myself a collector. More an accumulator. To qualify as a true collector, I think there has to be some method to the accumulation beyond thinking "that's cool, I want one (or several)."



I used to think that way, until I realized that several subsets of my "accumulation" would be considered a nice, small "collection" to many (most?) folks.

I had to answer "B" in the poll above. I never set out to have 200 guns (or even 100, for that matter). I bought a gun for self-defense, then one for hunting, then another for SD (to fill a need/application that the first one didn't), then a target gun, then a carry-gun, then a duplicate of my carry gun (for various reasons oft-discussed here), then a pocket/BUG, and so forth. For a while I traded or sold as I "upgraded" but, eventually, even most of the ones being upgraded were of sufficient quality that I didn't want to get rid of them. Then I got an FFL for a few years and promptly lost my mind...

You get the idea.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 2:00:07 PM EDT
No I'm not a collector. I buy what I like regardless of its collectable worth. Although someone just put things in perspective for me about a month back. Life is too short to buy cheap guns.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 2:06:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/21/2005 2:11:03 PM EDT by imposter]
I'm an accumulator. A collection is a "A group of objects or works to be seen, studied, or kept together." My guns have nothing in common except for the fact that they are guns and that they are mine.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 2:10:51 PM EDT
I am not a collector. However, if I had the money I would love to start collecting
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 2:11:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/21/2005 2:13:09 PM EDT by giacutter]

Originally Posted By mjohn3006:
When I hit the 20 mark, I registered with the state of MD as a collector.

Then when I hit the 30 mark I moved to VA where there is no such think as a "collector" to sign up for.





Damn! You moved to VA just because of your gun collection? Impressive. Good for you.

The taxes, the oppressive socialistic regime, the traffic, and a million other reasons would be good enough reason to move for me.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 2:16:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Bubbatheredneck:
IMO, collector is not just someone with a lot of guns. A collection has a purpose/goal to be a true collection. It can be lofty or rather mundane goal, but a collection has to have an endpoint.

I have a friend that is a serious student/collector of M1 carbines and trench guns. He has 95% or better carbines in more configuration than I knew existed. He will dump a 95% one for a 98% identical model in a heartbeat.

A collection of AR's would be having one from every manufacturer or one of every Colt variant. Having two Colts, an Oly and a Bushmaster just means you have a bunch of AR's.

I have a bunch of guns, but my collection aspect is aimed more at hunting certain animals under a mutitude of conditions and some would call it a battery as opposed to a collection.



Darn you to heck. It would have taken me at least another year to think up :"having one from every manufacturer or one of every Colt variant" as an excuse to buy more AR's! Now I have to go out and get an Oly AND a DPMS!
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 2:18:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/21/2005 2:21:00 PM EDT by The_Gooch]
Yes, i'm a collector, but it snuck up on me. At first it was just commercial sporting arms that I was interested in, then one day I got a Russian SKS and thats were it all started. I have sent away for my C&R FFL and I will have that someday, so I will only get more involved.

1 Russian SKS 1954 Tula
2 German k98k( '27' 1940, 'AX' 1940)
5 M1 Garands(2xSA, WRA,HRA,IHC)
1 Turkish M38 mauser 1940 K.Kale
1 Swedish M96 1900 Oberndorf
1 Swedish M38 Husqvarna 1942
1 Yugo 24/47 Mauser
1 No.1 Mk.III* 1918 BSA Co.
1 M44 m/n 1948 Izhevsk
1 M91/30 m/n Tula 1936 hex receiver
1 K31 Swiss 1956 production
1 M95 Steyr carbine
1 M1903A3 Remington
1 Bulgarian Makarov
1 Star Model B
1 Gew.88 Spandau 1895
1 Walther P.38 AC41

As soon as I get my C&R, I will add many more Russian Mosin Nagants and a few Finns, a No.4 Enfield, a 1903 springfield, an M1 Carbine, some South American Mausers, a Persian Mauser, perhaps and an Arisaka and a Carcano. Maybe an M48 might find its way to my door as well. I hope to add a few more K98's from the Erma factory as well. My ultimate collection goal is to get an Erma 98k from each year and factory code variation. A nice WW2 Luger and M1911A1 that dont cost a fortune would be nice.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 2:24:02 PM EDT
I collect USGI 1911s and Colt 1911s, Been doing it for a while now. I also like USGI or Civi alternative weapons. That is usually what I like to look for and collect. I shoot some of them but I do have one's that are in to good of shape to shoot. There is no way in hell I would shoot a 100% USGI 1911 as I have others that shoot just fine that are not worth as much and would not lose value if shot.

I've been getting rid of some of my not as well liked firearms, 1911s included, but there will never be anything remotely collectable about them, ever. I have expanded some to include other Countries weapons that I like but I do not actively look for them either. If I pop across one great, if not, no great loss. Beats putting my money into buying vehicles and such as they are always money pits. Even the collectable ones have to have a good deal of money sunk into them each year, unlike a weapon that requires but a few cents worth of cleaning and lube/protectant care.

To each his own, but I enjoy it, like shooting, and the two mix well.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 2:25:59 PM EDT
I just consider myself an obsessive geek. Certain type's of military firearms is just one of my obsessions. I also own six of the same make and model of cars, along with several others that interest me. Does that make me a "car collector"? And then there's the whole wheel sets, steering wheels, horn buttons and various other automobilia.
I think obsessive is an acurate description.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 2:36:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lon_Moer:
I just consider myself an obsessive geek. Certain type's of military firearms is just one of my obsessions. I also own six of the same make and model of cars, along with several others that interest me. Does that make me a "car collector"? And then there's the whole wheel sets, steering wheels, horn buttons and various other automobilia.
I think obsessive is an acurate description.



Probably easier and cheaper to collect cars than rifles in PRK.

Link Posted: 12/21/2005 2:36:21 PM EDT
I am trying collect guns from evey country involved in WW1 and WW2.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 7:31:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 89hawk:
I am trying collect guns from evey country involved in WW1 and WW2.



EVERY country! Wow! Can you give some details as to how far you've gotten?

Link Posted: 12/21/2005 7:33:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By giacutter:

Originally Posted By 89hawk:
I am trying collect guns from evey country involved in WW1 and WW2.



EVERY country! Wow! Can you give some details as to how far you've gotten?


I've gone quite far...
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 7:36:18 PM EDT
No, I just don't see a point in collecting anything. It's like the guys with the $1mil+ cars they never drive. I like to enjoy what I have. My grandkids can buy their own shit
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 7:45:15 PM EDT
I thought I was a collector of fine arms, turned out I am an accumulator of average stuff.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 7:48:30 PM EDT


Originally Posted By JohnTheTexican:
I have at least 50 firearms of various sorts around the house, but I wouldn't consider myself a collector. More an accumulator. To qualify as a true collector, I think there has to be some method to the accumulation beyond thinking "that's cool, I want one (or several)."



me too a collector generally has some direction or deals in a certain type, brand ,country, time period etc
i just buy shit if it seems neat to me at the time
kinda retarded really i have about 3 that i actually shoot or hunt with on a reg basis
but if i do not buy guns i find i sqaunder it on other toys anyway
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 8:55:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
if i do not buy guns i find i sqaunder it on other toys anyway



+1! Spending money on guns, even those I don't "need", has saved me from wasting money on all kinds of other crap!
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 9:06:30 PM EDT
My firearms goals, once I get out of school and start making some real scratch, is to have one or two collections plus SHTF/every-day-use guns.

By collections I mean specific categories. I'm not going to be like all you A D D collectors!

I want a US Weapons Collection which will start life out as simply a US Rifle collection. The basic version would be 1903, Garand, M14 clone, And M16 clones representing the VN era, A2 era and the modern day era of configurations. Later I want to add the extras like Tompson, Grease gun, BAR, Carbine.

My SHTF stable will simply be 4 ARs, 2 Battle Rifles, 2 compact pistols, 2 full size pistols, plus trunk guns (one pistol, one rifle, these might be on the cheap side) for all vehicles I own, and maybe 2 precision platforms. Two is one.

If at that point I'm not cured....

I'll start a commie gun collection of Mosins, Nagants, SKS, AK47 AK74, RPD and complete that collection before moving on.

See a theme? Finish a category and move on. I don't care about authenticity, all the collection guns will be shooters and will be displayed (securely) in the open some where.
Link Posted: 12/21/2005 9:12:21 PM EDT
I may have what people percieve as a collection, but I prefer to be called an end-user of various weapons systems.
Link Posted: 12/22/2005 1:40:58 PM EDT
How viable an argument is the idea of firearms as an investment? Maybe the next thread topic.


Link Posted: 12/22/2005 1:43:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By giacutter:
How many firearms before you become a 'collector'?...



IMO having three or more of any particular thing makes you a collector.

Person who owns three German handguns = collector of German handguns
Link Posted: 12/23/2005 4:58:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By California_Kid:

Originally Posted By giacutter:
How many firearms before you become a 'collector'?...



IMO having three or more of any particular thing makes you a collector.

Person who owns three German handguns = collector of German handguns



Thank you for being the one poster who actually answers the question.
Top Top