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Posted: 12/20/2005 8:40:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/20/2005 1:34:50 PM EDT by Old_Painless]
A recent thread stirred a big debate. Seems a "Firearms Instructor" told a student that a loaf of bread would stop a bullet, especially if the bullet was a Jacketed Hollow Point.

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=419670

Now, we all know that if you read it on the internet, it must be true. Right? So, to the range.

My old buddy Tman doesn't get many "acting" parts in these threads, so I assured him that this was safe, and he agreed to hold the bread and let me shoot it with my 1911 Kimber in .45 ACP.



The results were tragic.






Just kidding.

Luckily for both me and Tman, we aren't stupid enough to believe everything we read on the internet.

Here's the actual set-up.



One Standard Loaf of White Bread.

First, we will try a round of .45 ACP Winchester Ranger SXT JHP, out of my Kimber 1911.



A pretty neat picture as Tman caught me in full recoil and you can see the crumbs blowing out the back of the bread loaf.

Here's the exit from the rear of the bread.



And here's the last couple of pieces with the hole through them.



Now, having dealt with the guys on AR15.com before, I know what you will say.

"Sure it went through white bread, but if you had used wheat bread, it would have made a difference."

So, here's a loaf of wheat bread.



And maybe the "Firearms Instructor" really meant to say that it would stop a round of .22 Long Rifle.

So, I tried a round of CCI .22LR HP out of my S&W.



Here's the results:



It went through it like an ex-wife through your life savings.


Lessons Learned:

1. Sit down boys. I have some really big news for you. Everything you read on the Internet isn't always true.

2. Just because someone is a "Firearms Instructor", that doesn't mean that they aren't full of Bovine Scatology (BS).

3. Why do people repeat silly stuff about firearms when it is so easy to shoot stuff and see what really happens? I just don't know.

4. Shooting bread is fun.

(Thanks to Tman for the photo help.)


Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:41:30 AM EDT
Best Box O'Truth ... ever!!!!!

Thanks, Old_Painless and tman!
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:42:26 AM EDT
Nice!
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:42:40 AM EDT
Damn that was posted quick.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:42:42 AM EDT
Classic.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:42:52 AM EDT
[golfclap]


<----nominates Tman for an Oscar for 'best performance' in the 'lay there and play dead' category......


Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:43:42 AM EDT
First two pics had me
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:43:44 AM EDT
I had a feeling this was coming
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:43:55 AM EDT
epic!!!
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:44:04 AM EDT
well done.

Now go make me a sandwich
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:44:45 AM EDT


Too funny. Good job, guys.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:45:05 AM EDT


tag!
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:45:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/20/2005 8:47:31 AM EDT by fight4yourrights]

Originally Posted By Old_Painless:

The results were tragic.







Damn it! Where's the ketchup, OP?



Nice work!


I suggest that student print this off and go show it to his instructor




Now, having dealt with the guys on AR15.com before, I know what you will say.

"Sure it went through while bread, but if you had used wheat bread, it would have made a difference."







Sour Dough is denser.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:45:25 AM EDT
It would of stopped it if it was toasted! You didn't try that Mr smarty man!
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:45:31 AM EDT
great post. I hope he shows this to the instructor.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:45:34 AM EDT
I was hoping for Old_Painless to come through after reading the 'Firearms Instructor said' thread.

Good work.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:45:44 AM EDT
Thank you O-P and Tman for continuing to fight the vast armies of Stupid!

is the bread still good for making a sammich???
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:45:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/20/2005 8:47:35 AM EDT by sixgunsblazing]
but what about "armor piercing rounds"!!


I bet they would have stopped dum dum's


Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:46:05 AM EDT
Ahh but what about syrian bread?
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:47:08 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:47:17 AM EDT
That bread was presliced! If you had a loaf of unsliced bread it wouldn't have penetrated all the way through!

Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:47:47 AM EDT
Retirement must be nice.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:47:59 AM EDT
Mrs. Bairds can stop tanks.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:48:11 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:48:56 AM EDT
No no, it would have stopped a round out of an M16, because it would be tumbling to much.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:49:00 AM EDT
You used sliced bread!! I think unsliced bread has better bullet retension qualities.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:49:03 AM EDT
Dang it, that was funny. I really needed to smile today.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:50:24 AM EDT

No fruitcake??

Shok
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:50:31 AM EDT
It would have stopped a 5.56mm, cause it would tumble end over end through the air and then bounce around inside the bread.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:50:43 AM EDT
What about toast?
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:51:50 AM EDT
Best one ever good job.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:52:40 AM EDT
Wow! No fair using depleted uranium cop killer dum-dum bullets! A standard loaf of bread is rated only for the much weaker military armor-piercing hollow point ammunition.

Clearly, the bread dramatically slowed down the bullet. If it can do that to a bullet, imagine what it will do to your stomach!

Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:53:10 AM EDT
T-Man is to OP what "Roy" was to Marlon Perkins
on Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom!


That is some funny, funny stuff.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:55:17 AM EDT
too funny. that second pic is hilarious.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:55:40 AM EDT





Now, having dealt with the guys on AR15.com before, I know what you will say.

"Sure it went through while bread, but if you had used wheat bread, it would have made a difference."







Sour Dough is denser.



I almost pissed myself when I read that I was laughing so hard.

I'd add that 7 Grain bread is level III-A, as opposed to Sourdough, which is, II
at best.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:55:49 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:56:14 AM EDT
Haha!! The first two picures are funny as hell!
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:56:42 AM EDT
Outstanding!

I bet multi-grain would have stopped them all
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:56:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Da_Bunny:
What about toast?



I've heard an Eagle Arms toaster would stop a bullit... But only if it is fired from a gun that has a banana clip and flash hider...
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:57:13 AM EDT


Old Painless = A man with a sense of humor and knows how to play along with a joke !

Thank you for the continued cramps and side aches from the laughing.

"You da man !"
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 8:59:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/20/2005 9:00:02 AM EDT by anjan9]


Was that pre-ban, post ban, or no ban bread?
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 9:00:08 AM EDT
I am still laughing.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 9:00:46 AM EDT
Here we go, another bread thread...

by the way
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 9:01:23 AM EDT
That has to be the funniest thing I've read on the internet since Al Gore's wonderful creation.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 9:02:22 AM EDT
.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 9:03:19 AM EDT
Some of the shit you read and/or hear "gun owners" repeat is truly amazing. (Yes this vest is top rated on the Wonder Bread Scale)



Everybody knows how weak kneed the .22LR round is. Before I got my bullet trap I would testfire 22's I worked on into a old copy of the local phone book. Basic old 22LR like Winchester Wildcat would penetrate about 98-99% of a 2 1/4 inch thick yellow pages. Wonder how many loaves this would equal...?
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 9:04:26 AM EDT


The only problem I see with your testing is now all the jelly will fall out of the PB&J sandwiches.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 9:05:01 AM EDT
I hope you fed the dead bread to the little birdies, or did you use it as bait ?
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 9:05:15 AM EDT
That is freaking awesome Way to go O_Painless you sir are the man.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 9:06:34 AM EDT
OP- This has to be the funniest experiment you have ever conducted. Caused me to literally laugh out loud. I proclaim thee: official arfcom firearms instructor.

Thanks again.
Link Posted: 12/20/2005 9:06:35 AM EDT
AWESOME!!
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