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Posted: 12/18/2005 5:06:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/18/2005 5:23:34 PM EDT by Lockedon]
I'm thinking about getting diagnosed with one of these made up over-diagnosed disorders. As much as I refuse to believe that they really exist in such great numbers, I feel like the symptoms are more and more interfering with my life.
My question is: Can you go to a regular family physician to be diagnosed or do you have to go psychiatrist?
Also, can you knock it out in one visit as an adult? If I recall correctly, (and I may be completely wrong) it's quite a process for kids to be diagnosed.
Thanks in advance!

Edited to clarify.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 5:09:28 PM EDT
huh your post is boring and too long, oh look that dog has a fluffy tail!
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 5:13:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lockedon:
I'm thinking about getting diagnosed with one of these made up disorders. As much as I refuse to believe that they really exist, I feel like the symptoms are more and more interfering with my life.
My question is: Can you go to a regular family physician to be diagnosed or do you have to go psychiatrist?
Also, can you knock it out in one visit as an adult? If I recall correctly, (and I may be completely wrong) it's quite a process for kids to be diagnosed.
Thanks in advance!



You can go to either.

If you really think it's a made-up disorder, you are a fucking moron. It may be overdiagnosed, but it DOES exist.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 5:14:38 PM EDT
There is only one cure for life...

Don't do it unless you have a very significant problem. This a pet peeve of mine, as an ex girlfriend decided one day that it would be better to not have the standard stresses and therefore worries of life, so she got herself diagnosed with GAD, and went on Paxil. It worked out well for her , but only in her own eyes. She was indeed no longer a worry wart, but apathy and lack of compassion replaced that void.

Fact is, just about anyone can go to the Dr. spout a few typical human emotional concerns (with a bit of drama added), and walk out a psychoactive drug. Very bad news IMO...
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 5:15:16 PM EDT
I have both OCD and ADHD, I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT OCD IS REAL, most people with ADHD are just in need of an asswhooping.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 5:15:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lockedon:
I'm thinking about getting diagnosed with one of these made up disorders. ...



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Link Posted: 12/18/2005 5:15:46 PM EDT
They are not so much made up, as they are sometimes missed, and often over-diagnosed.

I'd say a family doc often is not trained enough to make a definitive diagnosis and if wise will refer you to not just a psychiatrist, but to a mental health pro who is well-established in the disease AND others that may accompany it.

Link Posted: 12/18/2005 5:15:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/18/2005 5:16:51 PM EDT by Lockedon]

Originally Posted By PeteCO:

Originally Posted By Lockedon:
I'm thinking about getting diagnosed with one of these made up disorders. As much as I refuse to believe that they really exist, I feel like the symptoms are more and more interfering with my life.
My question is: Can you go to a regular family physician to be diagnosed or do you have to go psychiatrist?
Also, can you knock it out in one visit as an adult? If I recall correctly, (and I may be completely wrong) it's quite a process for kids to be diagnosed.
Thanks in advance!



You can go to either.

If you really think it's a made-up disorde, you are a fucking moron. It may be overdiagnosed, but it DOES exist.




bit harsh, don't ya think?


No I believe that EVERYONE probably has it to one degree or another. Perhaps I should have said that it's blown out of proportion, not entirely made up.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 5:16:08 PM EDT
All men are ADD. We have to be. Say you're with a cute chick, good butt and fair boobs. Cuter chick, better hiney and giant zoomers walks by. If you're not ADD you miss the better grade unit. It's part of our inherited, sexual survival technique.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 5:18:44 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 5:19:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lockedon:
bit harsh, don't ya think?


No I believe that EVERYONE probably has it to one degree or another. Perhaps I should have said that it's blown out of proportion, not entirely made up.



Probably, but I hate how assholes always have to jump into these threads and claim they don't exist, when said assholes have no experience with it. So ar so good, but I'm sure someone will jump in any minute.

Kind of like the reaction I'd get if I claimed that cancer was fake.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 5:24:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/18/2005 6:48:24 PM EDT by NAM]

Originally Posted By g3shooter:
I have both OCD and ADHD, I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT OCD IS REAL, most people with ADHD are just in need of an asswhooping.



...as do most people with OCD.

I dated an OCD/Anorexic/Bulemic/British nutcase.



boot ----> ass
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 5:29:19 PM EDT
are you trying to get meds??? the medication used to treat add is usually an amphetimine based medication. Not a smart move on your part if this is the case.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 5:30:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/18/2005 5:32:07 PM EDT by otar]

Originally Posted By Paul:
Will that cover that little box on the federal form you sign for a firearm?


I'm not a lawyer, but I dont think so.


f.
Have you ever been adjudicated mentally defective (which includes having been adjudicated incompentent to manage your own affairs) or have you ever been committed to a mental instituition.

red added by me.

Edit: I think that means a court has to say so.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 5:31:59 PM EDT
ADD is diagnosed in a very specific way....ask your general doc to refer you to a Psych that can adminster a TOVA
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 5:36:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/18/2005 5:40:38 PM EDT by Lockedon]

Originally Posted By AROKIE:
are you trying to get meds??? the medication used to treat add is usually an amphetimine based medication. Not a smart move on your part if this is the case.




Honestly: No.

Even more honestly: I've already tried Ritalin and Adderall before in the past, and they had no "high" or "speedy" effect on me whatsoever, which leads me to believe that I might need these medications.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 5:48:59 PM EDT
Go get tested. Don't see your GP as he/she won't know what to look for. See a Psychopharmacology.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 5:51:00 PM EDT
Why don't you just buy some meth.

Link Posted: 12/18/2005 6:33:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By otar:

Originally Posted By Paul:
Will that cover that little box on the federal form you sign for a firearm?


I'm not a lawyer, but I dont think so.


f.
Have you ever been adjudicated mentally defective (which includes having been adjudicated incompentent to manage your own affairs) or have you ever been committed to a mental instituition.

red added by me.

Edit: I think that means a court has to say so.



I can confirm that it does not alter your ability to purchase firearms.

SBG
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 6:41:51 PM EDT
Your best bet would be the local Voodoo Doc.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 6:47:39 PM EDT
Sign up now for the tests so you can be first in line when our .gov decides to make it
a way to collect disability.

Am I the only one who has noticed that kids with ADHD, ADD, etc have parent's
who don't believe in discipline? Or at least don't know how to discipline?


Link Posted: 12/18/2005 6:56:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/18/2005 6:58:41 PM EDT by corwin1968]
Mental disorders are best diagnosed and treated by specialists (psychologists and psychiatrists) but often, especially if you belong to an HMO, you have to begin with a primary care physician.

An ADHD evaluation, if done properly, will be quite an involved and expensive process. If there is a university with a clinical psych program nearby they probably have an on-campus clinic where senior doctoral students will do the evaluation under the supervision of licensed psychologists. The waiting lists can be long but the cost savings can be tremendous.

People often make statements such as "everyone has that!" or "we are all ADHD". The mental health profession has clear cut diagnostic criteria for these disorder and although anyone can exhibit SOME characteristics of numerous disorders they don't necessarily have them.

Are these mental disorders overdiagnosed or has research just enabled us to identify them more efficiently/accurately? I don't know the answer to that but I know where ADHD was the diagnosis of the 90's it's now Bi-Polar Disorder. The student's who are referred to me for psychological evaluation are on average taking three psychotropic medications each and I've worked with a fair number of children as low as 5 years old lately.

I have been simply amazed at the severity of the problems I'm seeing lately.
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 6:57:19 PM EDT
Neuropsychologist
Link Posted: 12/18/2005 8:25:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Reaper:
Am I the only one who has noticed that kids with ADHD, ADD, etc have parent's
who don't believe in discipline? Or at least don't know how to discipline?




You are totally full of shit.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 3:17:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AROKIE:
are you trying to get meds??? the medication used to treat add is usually an amphetimine based medication. Not a smart move on your part if this is the case.

I take dexedrine for mine.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 3:18:48 AM EDT
BTW: OCD is not a psycosis related disorder, people who have it are not crazy.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 3:59:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Reaper:
Sign up now for the tests so you can be first in line when our .gov decides to make it
a way to collect disability.

Am I the only one who has noticed that kids with ADHD, ADD, etc have parent's
who don't believe in discipline? Or at least don't know how to discipline?





Not true. My son is ADD and I am a strong believer in discipline. It is kept under control not by drugs but by staying on top of what he needs to do and not letting him get over. He is a good kid and tries hard. He simply needs to be followed up with (like the bag of trash he left sitting in his bedroom).
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 4:14:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Reaper:
Sign up now for the tests so you can be first in line when our .gov decides to make it
a way to collect disability.

Am I the only one who has noticed that kids with ADHD, ADD, etc have parent's
who don't believe in discipline? Or at least don't know how to discipline?





Yes, you are the only one.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 4:15:36 AM EDT
I had it as a child..for the most part I was cured from it, WITHOUT DRUGS! seems there was a developmental disconnect (i never crawled as a child. went straight to walking) childrens doctor discovered it and reinstalled the missing developmental step by having me do all sorts of hand eye exercizes.

I still have some residual effects of lack of focus and follow through issues but my behavior is quite mello.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 4:39:18 AM EDT
My ex-step brother had ADD as a kid. The meds jacked him up. A friend of my wifes as a matter of fact had ADD (may still have it) but she has permanent shakes from the meds she was on. Poor girl, i feel bad for her.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 4:41:50 AM EDT
I blame ARFCOM for my Adult ADD.

I am supposed to working now and look what I am doing.

Link Posted: 12/19/2005 7:39:17 AM EDT
It's made up horse ca-ca

The "cure" is a better diet and a lot more exercise and not some sitting in front of the TV and computer.


Link Posted: 12/19/2005 7:40:38 AM EDT
Sorry, you lost me on the second line. Could you repeat that?
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 7:45:22 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Lockedon:
I'm thinking about getting diagnosed with one of these made up over-diagnosed disorders. As much as I refuse to believe that they really exist in such great numbers, I feel like the symptoms are more and more interfering with my life.
My question is: Can you go to a regular family physician to be diagnosed or do you have to go psychiatrist?
Also, can you knock it out in one visit as an adult? If I recall correctly, (and I may be completely wrong) it's quite a process for kids to be diagnosed.
Thanks in advance!

Edited to clarify.



You buy me a AI artic warfare sniper rifle with a loopy mark 4 and I will write down that you have a fucking hole in your head.
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 7:53:07 AM EDT
I have ADD. i took. ritalin, and several other medications through high school. the medicine did work. but the side affects were horrible for me. i would sweat all day long. i could be sitting in front of the AC and still be sweating. high school was a nightmare for me
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 10:04:42 AM EDT
ADD/HD is just a made-up disease. It's all to sell you useless drugs. If you can't pay attention for very long, just work faster you slowpoke!
Link Posted: 12/19/2005 10:16:41 AM EDT

Originally Posted By g3shooter:

Originally Posted By AROKIE:
are you trying to get meds??? the medication used to treat add is usually an amphetimine based medication. Not a smart move on your part if this is the case.

I take dexedrine for mine.



The generic name for Dexadrine is Dextroamphetamine. It's a schedule II controlled substance in the same category as opium, morphine, cocaine, and methamphetamine. It's what the Air Force has been using as its "go pills" to help pilots stay alert and focused on long missions. Enjoy!
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