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Posted: 12/15/2005 10:30:42 AM EDT
.S. Sen. Charles Schumer released a statement vowing to introduce legislation allowing New York City police officers access to information from the Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives National Tracing Center about stolen guns and all guns used during the commission of crimes.

Schumer's plan takes aim at a congressional amendment passed two years ago that restricts access to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives' tracing data.

Link Posted: 12/15/2005 10:31:22 AM EDT
Mr. Feel Good strikes again. What a FOOL!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 10:33:25 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 10:36:25 AM EDT
Shumer was an ASS!

Shumer is an ASS!

Shumer will ALWAYS be an ASS!!

There will always be ASSES!
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 10:38:46 AM EDT
Periodically Schumer pulls his head out of his ass and enlightens us with his wisdom. People like him and his ilk are exactly why we have the 2nd Amendment.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 10:50:34 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NeedMoreAmmo:
Periodically Schumer pulls his head out of his ass and enlightens us with his wisdom. People like him and his ilk are exactly why we have the 2nd Amendment.




i just wish that gun owners would periodically pull their heads out of their asses and use the 2nd to fill politicians like schumer with enlightening holes.

note: the above statement is editorial in nature and not to be construed as intent to do bodily harm to, or to incite violence against, chuck schumer.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 10:54:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/15/2005 10:55:15 AM EDT by tc556guy]

Originally Posted By CRC:
.S. Sen. Charles Schumer released a statement vowing to introduce legislation allowing New York City police officers access to information from the Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives National Tracing Center about stolen guns and all guns used during the commission of crimes.



OK, how is it good to restrict info on guns being used in criminal activity?
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 11:07:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By tc556guy:

Originally Posted By CRC:
.S. Sen. Charles Schumer released a statement vowing to introduce legislation allowing New York City police officers access to information from the Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives National Tracing Center about stolen guns and all guns used during the commission of crimes.



OK, how is it good to restrict info on guns being used in criminal activity?



I posted this awhile back. If Schumer is behind it there must be some negative impact for gun owners buried in there somewhere. The article states he wants to give the ATF more power by inspecting dealers more often. He has other motives, you can bet on that. An anti-gun politician should never be allowed to have anything to do with ANY type of firearm legislation, good or bad.


Schumer: Tracking guns should be easier

December 5, 2005

Tracing and gathering data on stolen guns -- like the handgun used in the shooting of NYPD Officer Dillon Stewart -- should be easier and more public, Sen. Charles Schumer said Sunday.

Schumer also said the rest of the country should have a law, as New York does, requiring stolen guns to be reported to authorities and be available on a national database.

At a Manhattan news conference, Schumer (D-N.Y.), said a current law approved as an amendment to a spending bill that restricts the sharing of gun tracing data should be rolled back.

"The fundamental problem is almost every gun used in a crime does not come from New York, so without a national database we can't do very much," Schumer said. "In New York, if a gun is stolen or if a gun is used in a crime, they have very good records but many, 90 percent of the guns, come from out of state."

He said police can only "trace certain guns after a crime is committed" and called for traces on all reported stolen guns.

A spokesman at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, which oversees national gun data and which was the target of the law Schumer mentioned, said he couldn't comment on the specifics of the law. But he did say that law-enforcement agencies cannot access data outside their jurisdictions unless there is a obvious link.

It is widely known that certain states, including Ohio and Florida, are major suppliers of guns that are eventually bought and sold illegally in the city.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg used his radio address Sunday to call for tougher laws in the wake of Stewart's death. He said national and state laws need to be toughened.

"Until Congress gets serious about shutting down the flow of illegal guns, it is only a matter of time before another tragedy occurs," Bloomberg said.

Patrick Lynch, the president of the Patrolmen's Benevolent Association, appeared with the senator at his Manhattan office to show support for the repeal.

Schumer said he would also like ATF to get more funds to expand the number of "rogue gun dealers" they investigate, expand the number of times they can visit gun dealers to check inventories and increase penalties for gun traffickers.



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Link Posted: 12/15/2005 11:08:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/15/2005 11:12:11 AM EDT by clement]

Originally Posted By tc556guy:

Originally Posted By CRC:
.S. Sen. Charles Schumer released a statement vowing to introduce legislation allowing New York City police officers access to information from the Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives National Tracing Center about stolen guns and all guns used during the commission of crimes.



OK, how is it good to restrict info on guns being used in criminal activity?



If they ban a gun you own without grandfathering it and you don't surrender it, that gun you own is used in criminal activity.

Still feel OK with it?

Not to mention there really shouldn't be any that information out there. (I know there is, but I'm saying ideally)

ETA-

from above

Schumer said he would also like ATF to get more funds to expand the number of "rogue gun dealers" they investigate, expand the number of times they can visit gun dealers to check inventories and increase penalties for gun traffickers.


OH HELL NO!!!
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 11:16:28 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 11:18:48 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 11:22:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By jrzy:
www.tonyrogers.com/humor/images/kerry_hero_talk.jpg



LMFAO. The best part was the "Oh sorry Ted."
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 11:34:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By clement:

Originally Posted By tc556guy:

Originally Posted By CRC:
.S. Sen. Charles Schumer released a statement vowing to introduce legislation allowing New York City police officers access to information from the Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives National Tracing Center about stolen guns and all guns used during the commission of crimes.



OK, how is it good to restrict info on guns being used in criminal activity?



If they ban a gun you own without grandfathering it and you don't surrender it, that gun you own is used in criminal activity.

Still feel OK with it?

Not to mention there really shouldn't be any that information out there. (I know there is, but I'm saying ideally)

ETA-

from above

Schumer said he would also like ATF to get more funds to expand the number of "rogue gun dealers" they investigate, expand the number of times they can visit gun dealers to check inventories and increase penalties for gun traffickers.


OH HELL NO!!!



He is a cop, of course he is ok with it.
The law does not apply to him like it does to us.
Sorry guy - not a knock on you, or cops, but lets face it - gun laws aren't equal.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 11:36:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By tc556guy:
OK, how is it good to restrict info on guns being used in criminal activity?


A fishin' we will go, a fishin' we will go, hi-ho the merry-o, a fishin' we will go....
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 12:44:01 PM EDT
..... Both ends ? What a player !
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 8:56:05 PM EDT
I don't see a problem with a repository of serial numbers of items reported stolen. I fail to see how it would be useful for "crime fighting" in any capacity however. WTF kind of blackmarket reseller leaves the serial numbers intact anyway?
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 9:00:24 PM EDT
How about Schumer jumps on a real cause, protecting us from Ted Kennedy after happy hour. Shitheel.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 9:12:48 PM EDT
Schumer is a perfect example of why we need a National Dumbass Registry.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 9:14:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Burley:
Schumer is a perfect example of why we need a National Dumbass Registry.





Agreed!!!!
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 9:18:45 PM EDT
Why only the New York police?
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 9:27:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/15/2005 9:29:24 PM EDT by sherrick13]
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 9:58:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Burley:
Schumer is a perfect example of why we need a National Dumbass Registry.



Big +1 on that
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