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Posted: 12/15/2005 6:45:54 AM EDT
Pennsylvania Governor Enacts Retired Law Enforcement Officer Identification Act
PR Newswire
via NewsEdge Corporation


HARRISBURG, Pa., Dec. 13 /PRNewswire/ -- Governor Edward G. Rendell today signed the following bill into law:

House Bill 1057, sponsored by Rep. Stephen R. Maitland (R-Adams/Franklin), enacts the Retired Law Enforcement Officer Identification Act. This legislation is in response to the federal Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act of 2004.

The new law says a law enforcement agency will provide photo identification cards to retired law enforcement officers for no more than $15. In addition, retired law enforcement officers may obtain qualification cards as long as he or she meets the state's standards for training and qualification that active law enforcement officers must meet in order to carry a firearm.

The qualification card will be good for one year and will also contain a confirmation number that will be given to the local sheriff by the Pennsylvania State Police upon completion of a criminal history record, juvenile delinquency record and mental health check, which will be conducted each time a card/confirmation number is issued. State police may charge $5 for this service each time it is conducted.

When carried together, the identification and qualification cards constitute a permit to carry a firearm. If a retired law enforcement officer is rendered ineligible to possess a firearm, the officer is to surrender the qualification card to the sheriff within five days. The sheriff will then notify state police within a 10-day period of the identity of the officer who surrendered the card.

The bill passed the House 198-0 and the Senate concurred, with amendments, 48-0. The House agreed with those amendments, 190-1. The bill takes effect in 60 days.

The Rendell Administration is committed to creating a first-rate public education system, protecting our most vulnerable citizens and continuing economic investment to support our communities and businesses. To find out more about Governor Rendell's initiatives and to sign up for his weekly newsletter, visit his Web site at: http://www.governor.state.pa.us.

CONTACT: Brandi Hunter-Davenport Pennsylvania Office of the Governor 717-783-1116

SOURCE Pennsylvania Office of the Governor

CONTACT: Brandi Hunter-Davenport, Pennsylvania Office of the Governor, +1-717-783-1116

Link Posted: 12/15/2005 6:52:34 AM EDT
Yay, another "special" class of citizens.
Cuz some folks are just plain better than the rest of us.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 12:06:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE:
Yay, another "special" class of citizens.
Cuz some folks are just plain better than the rest of us.




Originally Posted By AR15fan:
Pennsylvania Governor Enacts Retired Law Enforcement Officer Identification Act
PR Newswire
via NewsEdge Corporation


HARRISBURG, Pa., Dec. 13 /PRNewswire/ -- Governor Edward G. Rendell today signed the following bill into law:

House Bill 1057, sponsored by Rep. Stephen R. Maitland (R-Adams/Franklin), enacts the Retired Law Enforcement Officer Identification Act. This legislation is in response to the federal Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act of 2004.

The new law says a law enforcement agency will provide photo identification cards to retired law enforcement officers for no more than $15. In addition, retired law enforcement officers may obtain qualification cards as long as he or she meets the state's standards for training and qualification that active law enforcement officers must meet in order to carry a firearm.

The qualification card will be good for one year and will also contain a confirmation number that will be given to the local sheriff by the Pennsylvania State Police upon completion of a criminal history record, juvenile delinquency record and mental health check, which will be conducted each time a card/confirmation number is issued. State police may charge $5 for this service each time it is conducted.

When carried together, the identification and qualification cards constitute a permit to carry a firearm. If a retired law enforcement officer is rendered ineligible to possess a firearm, the officer is to surrender the qualification card to the sheriff within five days. The sheriff will then notify state police within a 10-day period of the identity of the officer who surrendered the card.


The bill passed the House 198-0 and the Senate concurred, with amendments, 48-0. The House agreed with those amendments, 190-1. The bill takes effect in 60 days.

The Rendell Administration is committed to creating a first-rate public education system, protecting our most vulnerable citizens and continuing economic investment to support our communities and businesses. To find out more about Governor Rendell's initiatives and to sign up for his weekly newsletter, visit his Web site at: http://www.governor.state.pa.us.

CONTACT: Brandi Hunter-Davenport Pennsylvania Office of the Governor 717-783-1116

SOURCE Pennsylvania Office of the Governor

CONTACT: Brandi Hunter-Davenport, Pennsylvania Office of the Governor, +1-717-783-1116




Reading is your friend.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 12:12:39 PM EDT
I was GOING to say that this was interesting because it sounded like there was going to be a central issuing agency for retired LE ID, and I thought that was interesting because agencies usually issue their own retired IDs and consider them property of the agency, not some central issuing authority. Then, like I said, I re-read it. And I guess I have to ask: don't retired officers in PA already get retired IDs? If not, why not? What was the reason for needing this law, other than the national carry law?
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 12:14:26 PM EDT
And what exactly disqualifies a person from nation wide CCW?
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 12:16:51 PM EDT

Originally Posted By p331083:
And what exactly disqualifies a person from nation wide CCW?



Probably the same things that would disqualify you from a regular CCW in PA.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 12:50:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By p331083:
And what exactly disqualifies a person from nation wide CCW?



Not being a police officer or retired police officer.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 12:51:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/15/2005 12:53:11 PM EDT by SJSAMPLE]

Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470:

Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE:
Yay, another "special" class of citizens.
Cuz some folks are just plain better than the rest of us.




Originally Posted By AR15fan:
Pennsylvania Governor Enacts Retired Law Enforcement Officer Identification Act
PR Newswire
via NewsEdge Corporation


HARRISBURG, Pa., Dec. 13 /PRNewswire/ -- Governor Edward G. Rendell today signed the following bill into law:

House Bill 1057, sponsored by Rep. Stephen R. Maitland (R-Adams/Franklin), enacts the Retired Law Enforcement Officer Identification Act. This legislation is in response to the federal Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act of 2004.

The new law says a law enforcement agency will provide photo identification cards to retired law enforcement officers for no more than $15. In addition, retired law enforcement officers may obtain qualification cards as long as he or she meets the state's standards for training and qualification that active law enforcement officers must meet in order to carry a firearm.

The qualification card will be good for one year and will also contain a confirmation number that will be given to the local sheriff by the Pennsylvania State Police upon completion of a criminal history record, juvenile delinquency record and mental health check, which will be conducted each time a card/confirmation number is issued. State police may charge $5 for this service each time it is conducted.

When carried together, the identification and qualification cards constitute a permit to carry a firearm. If a retired law enforcement officer is rendered ineligible to possess a firearm, the officer is to surrender the qualification card to the sheriff within five days. The sheriff will then notify state police within a 10-day period of the identity of the officer who surrendered the card.


The bill passed the House 198-0 and the Senate concurred, with amendments, 48-0. The House agreed with those amendments, 190-1. The bill takes effect in 60 days.

The Rendell Administration is committed to creating a first-rate public education system, protecting our most vulnerable citizens and continuing economic investment to support our communities and businesses. To find out more about Governor Rendell's initiatives and to sign up for his weekly newsletter, visit his Web site at: http://www.governor.state.pa.us.

CONTACT: Brandi Hunter-Davenport Pennsylvania Office of the Governor 717-783-1116

SOURCE Pennsylvania Office of the Governor

CONTACT: Brandi Hunter-Davenport, Pennsylvania Office of the Governor, +1-717-783-1116




Reading is your friend.



I read it.
Here's the jist: If you're a retired LEO (with a new ID) and take an annual qualification test, you get a CCW.
What about the rest of Pennsylvania's citizenry (or the rest of us "regular" Americans, for that matter)?

Critical thinking is YOUR friend.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 1:23:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AR15fan:
Pennsylvania Governor Enacts Retired Law Enforcement Officer Identification Act
PR Newswire
via NewsEdge Corporation


HARRISBURG, Pa., Dec. 13 /PRNewswire/ -- Governor Edward G. Rendell today signed the following bill into law:

House Bill 1057, sponsored by Rep. Stephen R. Maitland (R-Adams/Franklin), enacts the Retired Law Enforcement Officer Identification Act. This legislation is in response to the federal Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act of 2004.

The new law says a law enforcement agency will provide photo identification cards to retired law enforcement officers for no more than $15. In addition, retired law enforcement officers may obtain qualification cards as long as he or she meets the state's standards for training and qualification that active law enforcement officers must meet in order to carry a firearm.

The qualification card will be good for one year and will also contain a confirmation number that will be given to the local sheriff by the Pennsylvania State Police upon completion of a criminal history record, juvenile delinquency record and mental health check, which will be conducted each time a card/confirmation number is issued. State police may charge $5 for this service each time it is conducted.

When carried together, the identification and qualification cards constitute a permit to carry a firearm. If a retired law enforcement officer is rendered ineligible to possess a firearm, the officer is to surrender the qualification card to the sheriff within five days. The sheriff will then notify state police within a 10-day period of the identity of the officer who surrendered the card.

The bill passed the House 198-0 and the Senate concurred, with amendments, 48-0. The House agreed with those amendments, 190-1. The bill takes effect in 60 days.

The Rendell Administration is committed to creating a first-rate public education system, protecting our most vulnerable citizens and continuing economic investment to support our communities and businesses. To find out more about Governor Rendell's initiatives and to sign up for his weekly newsletter, visit his Web site at: http://www.governor.state.pa.us.

CONTACT: Brandi Hunter-Davenport Pennsylvania Office of the Governor 717-783-1116

SOURCE Pennsylvania Office of the Governor

CONTACT: Brandi Hunter-Davenport, Pennsylvania Office of the Governor, +1-717-783-1116




Nice job Ed
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 3:12:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By tc556guy:
... What was the reason for needing this law, other than the national carry law?


I suspect you just answered your own question.

I’d think the idea is there will be a central location where LEO’s can check on the validity of an PA retired cred.

Further, there’s no guarantee that past retired creds actually meet the legal standards required for eligibility (years of service, non-forfeitable right to benefits, etc.). These will.

Also, this cred will show that the required qualification course has been successfully fired within the mandated time frame.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 3:15:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By p331083:
And what exactly disqualifies a person from nation wide CCW?



How about murder for starters?
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 3:19:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE:
I read it.
Here's the jist: If you're a retired LEO (with a new ID) and take an annual qualification test, you get a CCW.
What about the rest of Pennsylvania's citizenry (or the rest of us "regular" Americans, for that matter)?

Critical thinking is YOUR friend.



Don't start.

We want to hear stories like "PA Cop Kills 2 Men In TN During Armed Hold-Up". These are stories that will make the sheeple public think: "Hey, it's actually a good thing if a cop can carry a gun anywhere in the country". Then this same public will not think it ridiculous for there to be a National CCW for the rest of us. Baby steps got us here. Baby steps will get us out.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 5:43:29 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE:

Originally Posted By Zakk_Wylde_470:

Originally Posted By SJSAMPLE:
Yay, another "special" class of citizens.
Cuz some folks are just plain better than the rest of us.




Originally Posted By AR15fan:
Pennsylvania Governor Enacts Retired Law Enforcement Officer Identification Act
PR Newswire
via NewsEdge Corporation


HARRISBURG, Pa., Dec. 13 /PRNewswire/ -- Governor Edward G. Rendell today signed the following bill into law:

House Bill 1057, sponsored by Rep. Stephen R. Maitland (R-Adams/Franklin), enacts the Retired Law Enforcement Officer Identification Act. This legislation is in response to the federal Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act of 2004.

The new law says a law enforcement agency will provide photo identification cards to retired law enforcement officers for no more than $15. In addition, retired law enforcement officers may obtain qualification cards as long as he or she meets the state's standards for training and qualification that active law enforcement officers must meet in order to carry a firearm.

The qualification card will be good for one year and will also contain a confirmation number that will be given to the local sheriff by the Pennsylvania State Police upon completion of a criminal history record, juvenile delinquency record and mental health check, which will be conducted each time a card/confirmation number is issued. State police may charge $5 for this service each time it is conducted.

When carried together, the identification and qualification cards constitute a permit to carry a firearm. If a retired law enforcement officer is rendered ineligible to possess a firearm, the officer is to surrender the qualification card to the sheriff within five days. The sheriff will then notify state police within a 10-day period of the identity of the officer who surrendered the card.


The bill passed the House 198-0 and the Senate concurred, with amendments, 48-0. The House agreed with those amendments, 190-1. The bill takes effect in 60 days.

The Rendell Administration is committed to creating a first-rate public education system, protecting our most vulnerable citizens and continuing economic investment to support our communities and businesses. To find out more about Governor Rendell's initiatives and to sign up for his weekly newsletter, visit his Web site at: http://www.governor.state.pa.us.

CONTACT: Brandi Hunter-Davenport Pennsylvania Office of the Governor 717-783-1116

SOURCE Pennsylvania Office of the Governor

CONTACT: Brandi Hunter-Davenport, Pennsylvania Office of the Governor, +1-717-783-1116




Reading is your friend.



I read it.
Here's the jist: If you're a retired LEO (with a new ID) and take an annual qualification test, you get a CCW.
What about the rest of Pennsylvania's citizenry (or the rest of us "regular" Americans, for that matter)?

Critical thinking is YOUR friend.



The rest of us go to a county courthouse, go through the metal detectors, tell the secretaries in the Sheriff's office we want to apply for a CCW, fill out the form, wait for the secretary to do the background check, pay $19, get your picture taken then walk out with your permit. As you can see, nothing's required beyond being able to pass the background check (the same requirements to purchase a handgun), $19 and about 30 minutes of your time.
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