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Posted: 12/14/2005 3:53:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/14/2005 3:54:33 PM EDT by AmericanPatriot1776]
I thought that the Liberal Party in Canada was handed an no confidence vote by the people and as a result, new elections are going to be held?

Is that accuarte?

If so, will the Conservatives win? Do they have a chance? Are Canadian Conservatives like USA Conservatives? Differences?

If the Liberals are losing support, then why are they planning to ban all handguns?

Are there parts of Canada planning to break away? Chances of that really happening?

I have read that the Liberal Party Leaders are giving the USA lip about how we should run our country? Accurate? Why is this happening now?

I am sooooooooo confused.

Link Posted: 12/14/2005 4:14:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/14/2005 4:15:43 PM EDT by raven]
1. Yes, there are apparently going to be elections.

2. I dont know enough about Canadian politics to say whether their conservatives will win.

3. Anti-Americanism is a winning political stance everywhere except for countries who have been recently saved by America. Countries with 20-30 years under their belt can demagouge America quite nicely. Even easier if you've never depended on or been saved by America, like Canada.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 4:17:48 PM EDT
Aye?
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 5:36:31 PM EDT
Most of the strong patriotic Canadians were killed in WWII or fled their country when they saw what was happening to it, post World War II. (See Pierre and Margaret Trudeau )

Government policies like creeping socialism, slavish devotion to the UN and multiculturalism (and all that Franco-phone crap) has pretty much devastated a once proud country.

Now that Canada has totally thrown open their borders to third-world shit hole types, the brilliant culture that produced Lorne Green, Leslie Nielsen and Celine Deon is now forced to compete with cultures that slaughter and sacrifice chickens in their dining rooms.

The Canadian military sucks because they really don't need one, They know the US will have no choice but to bail them out no matter how much they hate us and piss all over us because we are so close geographically . . After all , there really is nothing up there of value to defend and their only export is Movie and Pop stars that have already fled to Hollywood or Las Vegas. (It's a well known fact that actors flee Canada lest they be thrown in gulags to make movies for the Lifetime cable channel. )

Add all these factors up and all you are left with is a bunch of whiny socialists that aren't even ambitious enough to try to take over the world like the last batch of socialists that collapsed.

And don't tell me about the snipers in Afghanistan blah blah blah, ,as that was another UN mission or the Canadians would be sitting that one out too.

Canada should just change it's name to West France and their military should throw away their cadpat and wear UN smurf blue. Fuck 'em



Link Posted: 12/14/2005 5:49:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/14/2005 5:49:28 PM EDT by eddiein1984]

Originally Posted By weptek911:
Most of the strong patriotic Canadians were killed in WWII or fled their country when they saw what was happening to it, post World War II. (See Pierre and Margaret Trudeau )

Government policies like creeping socialism, slavish devotion to the UN and multiculturalism (and all that Franco-phone crap) has pretty much devastated a once proud country.

Now that Canada has totally thrown open their borders to third-world shit hole types, the brilliant culture that produced Lorne Green, Leslie Nielsen and Celine Deon is now forced to compete with cultures that slaughter and sacrifice chickens in their dining rooms.

The Canadian military sucks because they really don't need one, They know the US will have no choice but to bail them out no matter how much they hate us and piss all over us because we are so close geographically . . After all , there really is nothing up there of value to defend and their only export is Movie and Pop stars that have already fled to Hollywood or Las Vegas. (It's a well known fact that actors flee Canada lest they be thrown in gulags to make movies for the Lifetime cable channel. )

Add all these factors up and all you are left with is a bunch of whiny socialists that aren't even ambitious enough to try to take over the world like the last batch of socialists that collapsed.

And don't tell me about the snipers in Afghanistan blah blah blah, ,as that was another UN mission or the Canadians would be sitting that one out too.

Canada should just change it's name to West France and their military should throw away their cadpat and wear UN smurf blue. Fuck 'em






If those sniper competitions on Outdoor Life are any indication, they aren't all pussies.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 5:56:40 PM EDT

Originally Posted By eddiein1984:

Originally Posted By weptek911:
Most of the strong patriotic Canadians were killed in WWII or fled their country when they saw what was happening to it, post World War II. (See Pierre and Margaret Trudeau )

Government policies like creeping socialism, slavish devotion to the UN and multiculturalism (and all that Franco-phone crap) has pretty much devastated a once proud country.

Now that Canada has totally thrown open their borders to third-world shit hole types, the brilliant culture that produced Lorne Green, Leslie Nielsen and Celine Deon is now forced to compete with cultures that slaughter and sacrifice chickens in their dining rooms.

The Canadian military sucks because they really don't need one, They know the US will have no choice but to bail them out no matter how much they hate us and piss all over us because we are so close geographically . . After all , there really is nothing up there of value to defend and their only export is Movie and Pop stars that have already fled to Hollywood or Las Vegas. (It's a well known fact that actors flee Canada lest they be thrown in gulags to make movies for the Lifetime cable channel. )

Add all these factors up and all you are left with is a bunch of whiny socialists that aren't even ambitious enough to try to take over the world like the last batch of socialists that collapsed.

And don't tell me about the snipers in Afghanistan blah blah blah, ,as that was another UN mission or the Canadians would be sitting that one out too.

Canada should just change it's name to West France and their military should throw away their cadpat and wear UN smurf blue. Fuck 'em






If those sniper competitions on Outdoor Life are any indication, they aren't all pussies.



Good shot != warrior

I'm sure tha the Canadians have some kick-ass warriors . . . WWII proved that. I have two friends in Toronto who say that the liberals are just fucking the kids up so much that the next generation is pretty much a wash.

Disconnector
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 6:04:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/15/2005 4:46:33 AM EDT by peasant]
I lived in Canada for 5 years. My kids basically grew up there. Good times. The country has gotten much more liberal since we left in 1991. There is a general sense of inferiority/resentment that permeates the Canadian psyche. Sad. It really is a great country. The perfect place for rugged individual types but they tend to have something of a "subject" mentality and NO national heroes or real sense of national identity. It's just a "we're not the U.S." attitude and "Don't push us around". It's rough living next to the 8 million pound gorrila. BEAUTIFUL place though. My kids got to see things that the average person only sees in National Geographic. ETA : One of the major problems I observed while living there was the constant wrangling between the three main groups. English speakers, Quebecois(sp?) and the First Nations(Indians). Then you have the divisions between B.C, Prairie, Ontario(the Californa/New York of Canada) and the Maritime Provinces. It was crazy and very tiring. BUT THE U.S. IS HEADED IN THE SAME DIRECTION WITH ALL OUR MULTICULTURALISM !!!
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 6:06:56 PM EDT

Can someone expain to me what is going on in Canada?


Yes, at this time of year they're doing it doggy style so they can both watch the hockey games.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 6:07:55 PM EDT
If those sniper competitions on Outdoor Life are any indication, they aren't all pussies

Oh boy , here we go with the snipers again. I never said the Canuckistanis aren't good shots , Just that Canada in general sucks and they are no ally of the US. The Canuckistani snipers were there at the behest of the UN , not the US.

Why would anyone defend Canada and their constant agitating against the US ? You guys must be Canadian ex-pats. I can't imagine an American defending the West French.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 6:08:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By eddiein1984:


If those sniper competitions on Outdoor Life are any indication, they aren't all pussies.



I was about to say the same thing-they really clean house.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 6:25:59 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 6:33:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AmericanPatriot1776:
I thought that the Liberal Party in Canada was handed an no confidence vote by the people and as a result, new elections are going to be held?

Correct.

Is that accuarte?
Yes.

If so, will the Conservatives win?Doubtful. Do they have a chance?Sort of, to form a minority gov. Are Canadian Conservatives like USA Conservatives?No! Differences?If this makes any sense they are still socialists but conservative in some policies.

If the Liberals are losing support, then why are they planning to ban all handguns?They think it's a winner. They are pandering to the votes in the cities just like here.

Are there parts of Canada planning to break away? Yes.Chances of that really happening?Slim to none and none has a better chance.

I have read that the Liberal Party Leaders are giving the USA lip about how we should run our country? Accurate?Yes. Why is this happening now?Again, pandering for votes. Look at the Dems here.

I am sooooooooo confused.


Link Posted: 12/14/2005 6:59:14 PM EDT
They lost a confidense motion, so Pariamentary Elections are to be held on Jan 24th.

Barring a major fuck-up on the part of Paul Martin (current Liberal PM), and I mean MAJOR, then the Liberals will win at least a minority government, and likely a majority. The Liberals own Ontario, and will hand out enough table scraps in other ridings to hold onto power.

The Liberals are not losing any more support than they've already lost. They could pile tax dollars into a huge pile and burn them, outlaw Christmas and start collective farms, and their popularity woundn't change a bit. They are trying to regain lost support in Toronto, and perhaps Winnipeg by banning handguns. They only need a few more seats to get a majority. If they can eke out a grip on power by the slimmest possible technical margin, they will. Legitimacy be damned.

Alberta, Quebec and Newfoundland all have strong seperatist leanings. Quebec is very likely to leave confederation IMO. The seperatist movement got a boost by the Bloc's sweep of the province last election, and no inroads have been made by any other party since.

Alberta and Newfoundland are likely to stay put, but aren't very happy with the status quo.

Paul Martin is trying to gain favour by appealing to nationalistic sentiments, and has made a few nasty comments about some trade disputes with the US. The Liberal gov't has had very, very bad relations with the US since GW was elected, and this isn't really making things any worse. It just appeals to the Liberal leanings of a lot of Canadians.

Canada is completely buggered. I don't think there is any saving it.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 7:12:43 PM EDT
Well, well... why do people always generalize?
I don't like the way my country is going either as far as libtard ideas go. I'm in Western Canada and there are alot of folks here that vote conservative. We just don't have the population base to overcome the Liberal rich Eastern Provinces who are full of same-sex mairrage, anti-gun and reffugee claiment pro-types.
I grew up in the same town of Mayerthorpe where those 4 RCMP officers were killed and I remember as a teenager in 1978-79 walking down mainstreet with a 12 g shotgun over my shoulder going to a friends house. Now I live in a big city, Edmonton, and I can't even clean my m-14 in my own back yard cause some a** hole will call the cops.
My country is going down the toilet and I'll vote and fight best I can but my goal is to eventually go where there are some like minded people (like you guys).
So don't think all of us Canadians are Fked up.

Oh, by the way... I can shoot a ten inch target all day with iron sites only, prone supported with my m-14 out to 600 meters.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 8:21:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By raven:

Even easier if you've never depended on or been saved by America, like Canada.



They kid themselves by discounting the deterrant effect of having the U.S. superpower next door after the British empire lost its power and position.

Jim
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 8:34:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By weptek911:
Most of the strong patriotic Canadians were killed in WWII or fled their country when they saw what was happening to it, post World War II. (See Pierre and Margaret Trudeau )

Government policies like creeping socialism, slavish devotion to the UN and multiculturalism (and all that Franco-phone crap) has pretty much devastated a once proud country.

Now that Canada has totally thrown open their borders to third-world shit hole types, the brilliant culture that produced Lorne Green, Leslie Nielsen and Celine Deon is now forced to compete with cultures that slaughter and sacrifice chickens in their dining rooms.

The Canadian military sucks because they really don't need one, They know the US will have no choice but to bail them out no matter how much they hate us and piss all over us because we are so close geographically . . After all , there really is nothing up there of value to defend and their only export is Movie and Pop stars that have already fled to Hollywood or Las Vegas. (It's a well known fact that actors flee Canada lest they be thrown in gulags to make movies for the Lifetime cable channel. )

Add all these factors up and all you are left with is a bunch of whiny socialists that aren't even ambitious enough to try to take over the world like the last batch of socialists that collapsed.

And don't tell me about the snipers in Afghanistan blah blah blah, ,as that was another UN mission or the Canadians would be sitting that one out too.

Canada should just change it's name to West France and their military should throw away their cadpat and wear UN smurf blue. Fuck 'em








Don't forget about their shitty beer.

-K
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 8:41:12 PM EDT
Don't forget about their shitty beer.

I wasn't going to mention the beer because I thought it was just me. I can't stand Canadian beer. My friends love the stuff.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 8:41:46 PM EDT

Originally Posted By weptek911:
Most of the strong patriotic Canadians were killed in WWII or fled their country when they saw what was happening to it, post World War II. (See Pierre and Margaret Trudeau )

Government policies like creeping socialism, slavish devotion to the UN and multiculturalism (and all that Franco-phone crap) has pretty much devastated a once proud country.

Now that Canada has totally thrown open their borders to third-world shit hole types, the brilliant culture that produced Lorne Green, Leslie Nielsen and Celine Deon is now forced to compete with cultures that slaughter and sacrifice chickens in their dining rooms.

The Canadian military sucks because they really don't need one, They know the US will have no choice but to bail them out no matter how much they hate us and piss all over us because we are so close geographically . . After all , there really is nothing up there of value to defend and their only export is Movie and Pop stars that have already fled to Hollywood or Las Vegas. (It's a well known fact that actors flee Canada lest they be thrown in gulags to make movies for the Lifetime cable channel. )

Add all these factors up and all you are left with is a bunch of whiny socialists that aren't even ambitious enough to try to take over the world like the last batch of socialists that collapsed.

And don't tell me about the snipers in Afghanistan blah blah blah, ,as that was another UN mission or the Canadians would be sitting that one out too.

Canada should just change it's name to West France and their military should throw away their cadpat and wear UN smurf blue. Fuck 'em



Forgetting someone?

John C Garand maybe?
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 8:58:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/14/2005 9:01:03 PM EDT by weptek911]
Canadian/ex-patriot/apologist clement writes:

Forgetting someone?

John C Garand maybe?

Another Canadian apologist that brings up another Canadian who's family had the sense to flee Canada when he was TEN.


<Snip>
John C. Garand
born Jan. 1, 1888, St. Rémi, Quebec, Can.
died Feb. 16, 1974, Springfield, Mass., U.S.


John Cantius Garand Canadian-born U.S. firearms engineer, inventor of the M1 semiautomatic rifle, with which U.S. infantrymen fought in World War II and the Korean War.

In 1898 Garand's family moved to Connecticut, where he learned the machinist's trade in textile mills. As a young man he worked in precision-tool factories in Providence, R.I., and New York City. During World War I he designed a lightweight, fully automatic machine rifle; it was rejected by the U.S. Army but earned Garand a position in 1918–19 as a gun designer with the National Bureau of Standards. He was then transferred to the Springfield (Mass.) Armory, where he was put to work designing a semiautomatic replacement for the Springfield bolt-action repeater. In 1920 he became a U.S. citizen. (edit by weptek911 , invented the Garand 17 years later)

reference here
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 9:08:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/14/2005 9:09:51 PM EDT by clement]
Canadian apologist? ha!

Nice that you left off that he didn't become a US citizen until 1920 (when he was 32).
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 9:13:57 PM EDT
Like anywhere else. It's not the people, it's the politicians.

Though I will say that B.C. has the worst drivers I've ever seen!!
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 9:15:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/14/2005 9:15:35 PM EDT by weptek911]

Originally Posted By clement:
Canadian apologist? ha!

Nice that you left off that he didn't become a US citizen until 1920 (when he was 32).



You don't read English very well ? Maybe I should have posted it in your native French. re-read my post I did NOT leave that off. Forget about John C. for now. How can you defend Canada's position on the WOT/ Iraq / Their former ally the US ?.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 9:19:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/14/2005 9:19:45 PM EDT by weptek911]
Originally Posted By migradog:
Like anywhere else. It's not the people, it's the politicians.

__________________________________________________________________

Bullshit. It's a democratically elected government , majority rules.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 9:25:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/14/2005 9:31:12 PM EDT by clement]

Originally Posted By weptek911:

Originally Posted By clement:
Canadian apologist? ha!

Nice that you left off that he didn't become a US citizen until 1920 (when he was 32).



You don't read English very well ? Maybe I should have posted it in your native French. re-read my post I did NOT leave that off. Forget about John C. for now. How can you defend Canada's position on the WOT/ Iraq / Their former ally the US ?.



Neither can you apparently, where in my post did I defend Canada's position on the WOT/ Iraq / Their former ally the US ? Thanks. (I'll give you a hint, you will never be able to find me defending canada's position on any of that, even if you had a cronicle of every single thing I have ever said or wrote in my life)
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 9:39:55 PM EDT
m Okay, so you got me on the WOT thing. But why would you open your pie hole to defend Canada about anything ?John C. ? Is that supposed to absolve them of their current policies ?. I don't get it.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 9:42:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/14/2005 9:43:48 PM EDT by clement]

Originally Posted By weptek911:
m Okay, so you got me on the WOT thing. But why would you open your pie hole to defend Canada about anything ?John C. ? Is that supposed to absolve them of their current policies ?. I don't get it.



I'm not defending them on anything, I'm giving you crap.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 9:46:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By clement:

Originally Posted By weptek911:
m Okay, so you got me on the WOT thing. But why would you open your pie hole to defend Canada about anything ?John C. ? Is that supposed to absolve them of their current policies ?. I don't get it.



I'm not defending them on anything, I'm giving you crap.



Yep. On that we agree.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 5:16:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/15/2005 5:18:52 AM EDT by migradog]

Originally Posted By weptek911:
Originally Posted By migradog:
Like anywhere else. It's not the people, it's the politicians.

__________________________________________________________________

Bullshit. It's a democratically elected government , majority rules.



That's a chickenshit answer with little, if any forethought.

Then you're to blame for John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, John Conyers, Murtha and the like?
and we Arcommers were to blame for 8 years of Klinton.

After all, They were all elected by the majority of US citizens.
It's shallow thinking to put everybody in a single class based only on their governments political view.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 5:54:24 AM EDT

Originally Posted By migradog:

Originally Posted By weptek911:
Originally Posted By migradog:
Like anywhere else. It's not the people, it's the politicians.

__________________________________________________________________

Bullshit. It's a democratically elected government , majority rules.



That's a chickenshit answer with little, if any forethought.

Then you're to blame for John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, John Conyers, Murtha and the like?
and we Arcommers were to blame for 8 years of Klinton.

After all, They were all elected by the majority of US citizens.
It's shallow thinking to put everybody in a single class based only on their governments political view.



Another Canadian /ex-pat or apologist chimes in. Someone please tell me what Canada has done for us lately. And by us I mean the US not the UN.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 8:21:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/15/2005 8:27:57 AM EDT by migradog]

Originally Posted By weptek911:

Another Canadian /ex-pat or apologist chimes in. Someone please tell me what Canada has done for us lately. And by us I mean the US not the UN.



I'm neither.
You're just allowing your predujuce to make you look ignorant.
Calling me names proves nothing.

Show me any part of any of my statement that makes me an ex-pat or apologist.
You can't. My statements would be just as true for any country, not just Canada.
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 8:30:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By migradog:

Originally Posted By weptek911:

Another Canadian /ex-pat or apologist chimes in. Someone please tell me what Canada has done for us lately. And by us I mean the US not the UN.



I'm neither.
You're just ignorant.



Can't name one thing ? Didn't think so. So just go ahead and throw insults instead.
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