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Posted: 12/14/2005 6:33:55 AM EDT
awwww...... pore wittle bad guys.. :(



http://smh.com.au/news/world/insurgents-shot-in-arms-and-legs-then-drowned/2005/12/14/1134500916419.html

Insurgents 'shot in arms and legs, then drowned'
Email Print Normal font Large font By Paul McGeough Chief Correspondent in Baghdad
December 15, 2005
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AdvertisementThis from the mouth of a 14-year-old boy: "They tied the legs and hands of 11 Sunni men and hanged them off the river bridge - head-first. But they still refused to talk, so Sheik Khadum Shibley shot them in the arms and legs and then he cut the ropes."

The schoolboy Munthadar Ishmail Kudair's chilling account of a Shiite village's despatch of suspected Sunni insurgents adds credibility to rising Sunni complaints of a long-delayed but vicious Shiite fight-back after two years of relentless Sunni-backed violence in Iraq.

The summary executions, confirmed by the boy's father and others in the village, come amid anxiety by US and UN officials over widespread reports of rampant torture and killings by freelance death squads and the Shiite militiamen who now dominate Iraq's security forces.

Young Munthadar is disturbingly matter-of-fact as he tells of events that unfolded late last month in Radwania, a small farming community on the Al Ka'ad River, near Baghdad International Airport.

"The insurgents came to kill Sheik Khadum because we would not let them use our lands to launch attacks on the airport.

"We set a trap and captured them. But they wouldn't give the pin numbers to open their mobiles, so he hanged them from the bridge.

"Next morning, they still wouldn't open the mobiles for us to see who their friends were, so the Sheik shot them and then he cut the ropes. One of them had a long beard and Sheik Khadum told him: 'Your beard is dirty - the best place to clean it is in the river'."

When the Herald sought confirmation of the boy's account, his father added that a jubilant crowd had gathered, singing Shiite hymns and throwing stones at the dangling men as, one by one, they dropped into the deep.

A Herald researcher who visited Radwania was shown a picture, said to have been taken about half-way through the killings with a mobile phone camera, in which five bodies could be seen hanging from the bridge. Locals refused to part with a copy of the image because they thought it would incriminate the Sheik.

The blood-letting and a campaign of random ethnic-cleansing as hundreds of families - Sunni and Shiite - flee communities in which they are in the minority, challenge US hopes that a stable democracy will emerge from today's national elections and President George W. Bush's claim that Iraq can sidestep a civil war that many analysts fear is inevitable.

Most of the civilian casualties in post-invasion Iraq have been Shiite victims of Sunni violence. But in recent months, the Sunni head-count among the thousands processed at city morgues has risen dramatically.

Baghdad's central morgue now routinely returns handcuffs removed from the corpses, many of which show signs of torture, to police headquarters.

Some Iraqi officials have attempted to deny that elements of the predominantly-Shiite security forces are running amok, but others are confirming the suspicion voiced by diplomats, human rights groups and coalition military officers.

The Herald has obtained a gruesome document containing almost 70 images of the victims of torture which last month prompted United Nations officials in Baghdad to warn of an alarming deterioration in law and order.

Prepared by the Muslim Scholars' Association, a Sunni organisation, it focuses on a raid by Iraqi security forces in the mixed Al Hurria district of Baghdad, after which the mutilated bodies of 36 men who had been detained in the early hours of the morning were found dumped near the Iranian border.

There has been no official explanation for the raid in which individual families lost up to four members.

Local Sunnis claimed that the uniformed raiding party wore the distinctive shoulder patches of Brigade Borkan, an entirely Shiite rapid intervention force attached to the Interior Ministry. Borkan means 'volcano'.

And they got short shrift when they took their complaint to the office of Ahmed Chalabi, a deputy prime minister, who told them: "Some of these Sunni communities around Baghdad say it's worse than Saddam.

"I tell you when you say that, you show your ignorance of the suffering of your compatriots. Do you think a Shiite person could go into the office of Saddam's deputy and tell him they were being tortured? They immediately admit that this is not the same."

Precise numbers on the absorption of Shiite militiamen into the security forces are not available, but former members of the private armies of two of the Shiite religious parties are said to have carved up the Baghdad police force according to their turf across the capital. And in recent weeks two illegal detention and torture centres have been exposed in Interior Ministry compounds in Baghdad.

Last year the US occupation authority in Baghdad ordered the disbanding of all private militias, urging instead that their ranks be integrated into the security forces. This has happened but individuals have regrouped within the services, where some of their commanders tolerate or allow the use of vehicles and weapons for illegal raids and extra-judicial killings, according to sources close to the forces.

The biggest and most feared of the Shiite militias is the Iranian-trained and funded Badr Badr Brigade which is attached to the biggest of the Shiite political parties, the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI).

In an interview with the Herald its chief, Had Al-Ameri, insisted his 10,000 men had laid down their weapons and that, apart from a unit that had been absorbed into the Interior Ministry, 'only a few' had joined the security forces.

Asked about persistent accusations of human rights abuses, he shrugged his shoulders: "Today we are a political organisation. It is normal for people to talk like this in Iraq - it's a new democracy".

Link Posted: 12/14/2005 6:43:47 AM EDT
Payback is a mother fucker aint it?
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 6:46:59 AM EDT
Sew the wind, reap the whirlwind. MJD
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 6:49:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/14/2005 7:07:39 AM EDT by walrus]
"One of them had a long beard and Sheik Khadum told him: 'Your beard is dirty - the best place to clean it is in the river'."

LOL
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 7:04:30 AM EDT
Payback really is a bitch, isn't it. What goes around comes around, you murderous assholes.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 7:11:56 AM EDT

Originally Posted By walrus:
"One of them had a long beard and Sheik Khadum told him: 'Your beard is dirty - the best place to clean it is in the river'."

LOL



I think we need to hire that guy
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 7:17:29 AM EDT
Nothing wrong with flexing what you have.

I'd normally say it's a bad idea due to them having to try to get along in the future but for some reason people that take up the insurgent cause don't reason with words.

Link Posted: 12/14/2005 7:22:24 AM EDT
Why can't those muslims just get along?
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 7:25:36 AM EDT
This doesn't sound too different than what the sons of liberty (and unorganized mobs) would do to tories during the revolution.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 7:26:12 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 7:27:58 AM EDT
Even if the asshole was'nt shot he'd drown. Them fuckers cant swim.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 7:52:53 AM EDT

"The insurgents came to kill Sheik Khadum because we would not let them use our lands to launch attacks on the airport.


Doesn't sound like the villagers are "freelance death squads" or "running amok" to me. I think the Herald had their preset agenda.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 8:15:09 AM EDT
Not that I give two shits about what happens to these fucks...

but dont we have some way to easily hack cell phones? I mean, there are only 9999 pin numbers, just have a program run through them all.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 8:28:49 AM EDT
What about "set a trap" do people not understand?

THEY &*%#$* came to kill this guy!!!

He ambushed them, and THEY chose to surrender.
THEY chose not to give any info.
THEY got what was coming.
THEY sleep with the fishies.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 8:33:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TheFreepster:

Originally Posted By walrus:
"One of them had a long beard and Sheik Khadum told him: 'Your beard is dirty - the best place to clean it is in the river'."

LOL



I think we need to hire that guy




Yep, Who ever said the ROP'ers have no sense of humor.

If he ever gets tired of fighting, the Sheik could write on liners for the next DIE HARD movie.

ROP'ers killing other ROP'ers makes me happy. Atually I'm just glad to see Iraqi's finally standing up to the terrorists. I hope we are helping them in every way possible.

I bet the Sunni insurgents are begging for American style "torture" soon after the the Shiite jailers get ahold of them. Ironic, ain't it?
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 8:38:04 AM EDT
[DU asshat]IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT THAT THESE POOR MEN WERE MURDERED!!![/DU asshat]



Iraqi justice is swift...and kewl!
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 8:49:18 AM EDT
sounds like justice was served.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 10:03:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By distributor_of_pain:
What about "set a trap" do people not understand?

THEY &*%#$* came to kill this guy!!!

He ambushed them, and THEY chose to surrender.
THEY chose not to give any info.
THEY got what was coming.
THEY sleep with the fishies.



Well said. The insurgents got what they deserved.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 10:13:36 AM EDT
It's already been said. Justice was served and the assholes got what was coming to them.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 10:14:51 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BillofRights:

Originally Posted By TheFreepster:

Originally Posted By walrus:
"One of them had a long beard and Sheik Khadum told him: 'Your beard is dirty - the best place to clean it is in the river'."

LOL



I think we need to hire that guy




Yep, Who ever said the ROP'ers have no sense of humor.

If he ever gets tired of fighting, the Sheik could write on liners for the next DIE HARD movie.

ROP'ers killing other ROP'ers makes me happy. Atually I'm just glad to see Iraqi's finally standing up to the terrorists. I hope we are helping them in every way possible.

I bet the Sunni insurgents are begging for American style "torture" soon after the the Shiite jailers get ahold of them. Ironic, ain't it?



That's exactly what I was thinking when I read that. I can also see Ahnuld saying something like that.
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