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Posted: 12/12/2005 9:15:00 PM EDT
I have a Jeep and need some new tires. The size I need is 32x11.5x15. Anyone have any suggestions of some decent tires for not a BUNCH of money? What say you?


Aviator
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:16:22 PM EDT
What kind of tires are you looking for?
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:18:21 PM EDT
How much do you want to spend? Some BF Goodrich AT's will take care of you everywhere, including in the snow.
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:18:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/12/2005 9:18:40 PM EDT by Aviator]
I do alot of off road stuff, but nothing nuts. I do a lot of gold mining, and pull all my equipment behind me in my old 1/4 ton Jeep trailer. That being said, I do MOST of my driving on the highway. Would like something with a decent agressive tread, but ok on the road also. Not tooo noisy.

Aviator
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:19:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Daytona955i:
How much do you want to spend? Some BF Goodrich AT's will take care of you everywhere, including in the snow.



+1
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:19:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Daytona955i:
How much do you want to spend? Some BF Goodrich AT's will take care of you everywhere, including in the snow.



BFG AT/KO's are good tires. I'm running 31x10.5's on mine.

How much of a lift do you have?
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:20:15 PM EDT
Anyone run the Pirelli Scorpion A/Ts? I have a quote for them mounted and balanced for right at $600. Those look pretty good to me, but I did not know they made truck tires.


Aviator
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:22:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ASUsax:
BFG AT/KO's are good tires. I'm running 31x10.5's on mine.

How much of a lift do you have?



Just 3"




Aviator

Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:24:19 PM EDT
I am in the process of changing over from Goodyear to Uniroyal (HD/T). GY no longer has anything that would be suitable for the 4x4 vehicles.

Now, if I can only locate size 16 tire studs, I will be off to the races.
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:25:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/12/2005 9:26:19 PM EDT by twonami]
snow? wide ass offroaders suck on snowy highways
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:27:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Aviator:

Originally Posted By ASUsax:
BFG AT/KO's are good tires. I'm running 31x10.5's on mine.

How much of a lift do you have?



Just 3"

photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=25030


Aviator




Nice.

Both the Jeep and most of the passengers.

Guy in the middle needs to get out of the road, though.
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:28:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/12/2005 9:30:59 PM EDT by desertmoon]

Originally Posted By ASUsax:

Originally Posted By Daytona955i:
How much do you want to spend? Some BF Goodrich AT's will take care of you everywhere, including in the snow.



BFG AT/KO's are good tires. I'm running 31x10.5's on mine.

How much of a lift do you have?



Another BFG fan, though the Goodyear MT/R could be another great choice. I like running the 31 X 10.50 with 2 to 4 inches of lift. It's a moderate tire that picks the axel up from the ground a bit and yet leaves a nice amount of room for articulation. I'll be using the same ratio of lift to tire size on my Unlimited/Rubicon once I get out of the main warranty phase. You'll also do pretty well with the 32 X 11.50 if you like a bit more tire....you are running the 4.0 liter straight six, I assume.


ETA: WOW....you got that YJ ALL SWEETENED UP, DON'T YOU???? From the paint to the passengers it looks to me as though you are completely set!!!!
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:29:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ASUsax:

Nice.

Both the Jeep and most of the passengers.

Guy in the middle needs to get out of the road, though.





Most of the hooters wommenz in the photo were pregnant! lmao

Aviator
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:29:30 PM EDT
Bridgestone Dueler A/T
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:30:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/12/2005 9:31:29 PM EDT by Aviator]
Yes, 6 cyl. I have noticed since I added the lift and bigger tired 5th gear is pretty much useless. It might be that the thing has 250,000 miles on it also.


Aviator

ETA the Coopers I had on there are crap. I did not like them at all, and they wore crappy
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:32:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Aviator:
Yes, 6 cyl. I have noticed since I added the lift and bigger tired 5th gear is pretty much useless. It might be that the thing has 250,000 miles on it also.


Aviator



I am gonna guess that you have a 4.10/4.10 setup or a 4.10/4.11 set up for your ring and pinion gears. Go to a 4.56/4.56 and you'll pick up fifth gear again.
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:34:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By desertmoon:

I am gonna guess that you have a 4.10/4.10 setup or a 4.10/4.11 set up for your ring and pinion gears. Go to a 4.56/4.56 and you'll pick up fifth gear again.




How can I tell? And how hard is that to change? If it's a helicopter, I can fix anything. The Jeep.... well there are only a few things I have done to that.


Aviator
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:36:59 PM EDT

Originally Posted By desertmoon:

Originally Posted By Aviator:
Yes, 6 cyl. I have noticed since I added the lift and bigger tired 5th gear is pretty much useless. It might be that the thing has 250,000 miles on it also.


Aviator



I am gonna guess that you have a 4.10/4.10 setup or a 4.10/4.11 set up for your ring and pinion gears. Go to a 4.56/4.56 and you'll pick up fifth gear again.



Yeah, should be dying for a re-gear.

MTR's are nice tires. Don't wear as well as the BFG's, though. 40k is about it. With the BFG AT/KO's, you should be able to stretch that to 60+. Not quite as long with the BFG MT's... But a while.

I really like my AT's, but you may want something that's a little better in the mud. Desertmoon and I don't really have to deal with that.
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:38:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Aviator:

Originally Posted By desertmoon:

I am gonna guess that you have a 4.10/4.10 setup or a 4.10/4.11 set up for your ring and pinion gears. Go to a 4.56/4.56 and you'll pick up fifth gear again.




How can I tell? And how hard is that to change? If it's a helicopter, I can fix anything. The Jeep.... well there are only a few things I have done to that.


Aviator



Unless you're pretty good, it's a take-it-to-the shop kinda thing.

Honestly don't know how you'd tell what you have...
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:39:20 PM EDT
Cool, thanks for the info!


Aviator
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:42:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/12/2005 9:43:16 PM EDT by CSM]
If you are an A&P, you can do it. It is pretty basic (if you are an A&P), just get a good jeep shop manual, and go look at some 4x4 sites. Pirate4x4.com is a good one. Also, add a locker in there while you are in.
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:43:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/12/2005 9:43:41 PM EDT by ASUsax]
This is for a TJ, not a YJ, but it'll give you an Idea... Keep in mind that your rig probably came with 28 or 29" tires from the factory, you can see how much the RPM drop is...

Engine RPM at 60 mph

tire size/ 31" tire 32" tire 33" tire 34" tire 35" tire 36" tire
ratio
3.08 2000 1950 1875 1825 1775 1725
3.23 2100 2025 1975 1900 1850 1800
3.31 2150 2075 2025 1975 1900 1850
3.42 2200 2150 2100 2025 1950 1900
3.54 2300 2225 2175 2000 2050 1975
3.78 2425 2375 2300 2200 2150 2100
3.90 2550 2450 2375 2300 2250 2175
4.10 2650 2575 2500 2425 2350 2300
4.27 2775 2700 2600 2525 2450 2400
4.56 2950 2875 2775 2700 2625 2550
4.88 3175 3075 2975 2900 2800 2750
5.12 3325 3225 3125 3050 2950 2875
5.38 3500 3400 3300

ETA: Yeah, formatting sucks, but you get the idea... each column is the next up tire size, starting at 31"
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:45:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Aviator:
Anyone run the Pirelli Scorpion A/Ts? I have a quote for them mounted and balanced for right at $600. Those look pretty good to me, but I did not know they made truck tires.


Aviator



I have a set on my Explorer. A little noisy on dry pavement, but they work great in the snow and mud. They have a pretty aggressive tread for an on-road tire. I like them.
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:45:25 PM EDT
What gears do I have in my Jeep?
I4 Automatic - 3.73:1
I4 Standard - 4.10:1
I6 Automatic - 3.54:1 (normally)
I6 Standard - 3.07:1, 3.54:1 or 3.73:1 - must verify with the tag on the axle or by pulling the differential cover and reading the numbers stamped in the ring gear or by counting revolutions of wheel versus driveshaft.

That is YJ info. I'm still looking over on Jeepforum...
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:46:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/12/2005 9:50:00 PM EDT by desertmoon]

Originally Posted By Aviator:

Originally Posted By desertmoon:

I am gonna guess that you have a 4.10/4.10 setup or a 4.10/4.11 set up for your ring and pinion gears. Go to a 4.56/4.56 and you'll pick up fifth gear again.




How can I tell? And how hard is that to change? If it's a helicopter, I can fix anything. The Jeep.... well there are only a few things I have done to that.


Aviator



on the front of each of your differentials there will be a small metal tag that held in by two of the cover screws, it will have the ratio ( for instance: 4.10 ) stamped on the tag. Some Jeeps have 4.10 on one diff and 4.11 on the other. Other Jeeps are an even 4.10/4.10 front and rear....or in your case I am gonna go with ASU sax's info and say 3.73 to 1.....I am still stuck on YJ four banger info ( that was my previous Jeep )

I recommend finding a GOOD mechanic to swap out ring and pinion gears as there is a VERY specific technique to doing it right. I feel it is as much an art as a science. Your gears must mesh properly or they will wear badly or just plain break.
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:47:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Aviator:
I have a Jeep and need some new tires. The size I need is 32x11.5x15. Anyone have any suggestions of some decent tires for not a BUNCH of money? What say you?


Aviator



I f you didnt read my thread on tires for my car today...


FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY DO NOT BY DUNLOP TIRES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:48:59 PM EDT
skinny MT's like a mudking or a bfg mt my friend had them on his f-250 and could get through a lot of snow. I have bfg at's on my 97 z-71 and they suck for snow and I about got stuck in a muddy yard but they are supposedly the best at tire on the market.
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:49:30 PM EDT
Check this out, too...

members.shaw.ca/snowjeep/tirecalc.htm

Alright, I'm signing off...
Link Posted: 12/12/2005 9:50:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ASUsax:
Check this out, too...

members.shaw.ca/snowjeep/tirecalc.htm

Alright, I'm signing off...



g'night, dude!!!
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 4:26:02 AM EDT
BFG MT. Go to www.jeepforum.com for a complete story on tires.
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 4:34:35 AM EDT
I run BFG MT's on my jeep, but it mainly sees off-road duty, and not hardly any snow.

Link Posted: 12/13/2005 4:46:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/13/2005 6:50:49 AM EDT by sandboxmedic]
Another vote for BFG ATs; six ply tread/three ply sideswall not too loud on the road, wear well (keep them balanced and rotate them). If you drop back down to 31s' you will be better on the gearing that you have.

Couple of my friends run Michelins and Bridgestones and like them for what that's worth.

I wouldn't put Uniroyals on a go-kart.

ETA- Yokohama makes a decent tire for the money too. Check out Tirerack.com to get an idea on pricing.
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 4:48:24 AM EDT
BFG's are probably the best 4x4 tire, but the Pirelli Scorpions are very good for the money. My friend put them on his Jeep Cherokee last year, no serious offroading involved, but he drives it on the beach often to go fishing. He loves them. I have a few customers with Scorpions, they are quiet on the HWY, have a decent tread for off roading and cost around $90 each.
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 7:03:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/13/2005 7:04:34 AM EDT by Ops]
Aviator, drop me an IM if you want gears changed over. YOu are looking at about $600 in labor alone.

BTW I run BFG A/Ts on both of my 4x4s. They do tend to go out of balance if you don't keep them rotated and rebalanced. Traction and wear are excellent, I have 40k on the Jeep tires and have about 1/3 of the tread left.



I have never been stuck that was the fault of the tires.

Ops
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 7:05:59 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ASUsax:

Originally Posted By Daytona955i:
How much do you want to spend? Some BF Goodrich AT's will take care of you everywhere, including in the snow.



BFG AT/KO's are good tires. I'm running 31x10.5's on mine.

How much of a lift do you have?



Did you have to lift yours to put 31's?
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 7:07:08 AM EDT
You'll find everything you need to know right here www.jeepforum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=15
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 7:43:21 AM EDT
BFG makes good tires, my dad and I have used and abused them for 20years. The All Terrains are great, and from what I hear the mud terrain T/As are good too.
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 8:13:45 AM EDT
Im gonna buck the BFG trend here and recommend the ProComp Xterrains. I run 35's on my K5 and love 'em....they are not noisey..great on the road and kick ass off road.
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 8:25:44 AM EDT
I'm also gonna go against the BFG trend and recommend Bridgestone Dueler Revos. I put a set of them on my Grand Cherokee in July and they are great. No extra road noise and the tread is a little aggressive. I have not yet had a chance to see how they do in snow and ice, but they do perform well in the rain.

John
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 3:49:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Brians_45:

Originally Posted By ASUsax:

Originally Posted By Daytona955i:
How much do you want to spend? Some BF Goodrich AT's will take care of you everywhere, including in the snow.



BFG AT/KO's are good tires. I'm running 31x10.5's on mine.

How much of a lift do you have?



Did you have to lift yours to put 31's?



Negative.

You might have to adjust the steering stops, but I didn't.
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 5:09:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/13/2005 5:11:27 PM EDT by RDF71]
Take a look at firesone M/Ts they come setup for studs
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 5:23:16 PM EDT
I swear by Super swamper SSR's they are priced right (cheap) and could take a 5/16 drill bit all the way down to the tire thread and still keep going. I posted a photo at the Humvee forums a few months ago about it.

Else, BFG AT's are good as well, they perform well offroad and you can actually get a good 50k miles on it compared to my Swampers, SSR's average around 10k miles on my daily driver, my m998 though is driven under 60 MPH and I better be getting at least 20k miles before I replace 'em.

nice Jeep man.


Link Posted: 12/13/2005 5:24:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AILapua:
I am in the process of changing over from Goodyear to Uniroyal (HD/T). GY no longer has anything that would be suitable for the 4x4 vehicles.

Now, if I can only locate size 16 tire studs, I will be off to the races.




Good Year has the MT/R's that are pretty popular offroad. They came stock on my Rubicon and they really are great off road. They have been pretty decent in the snow too but it's still early. I have NOT been happy with the mileage. I have to rotate every 3K or they chop REAL bad. I'll be lucky if I get 30K on them running them bald, 25K more likely. I do rotate them every 3K and check pressure regularly. When I complained to the Good Year dealer he laughed at me. Two seperate managers at two seperate dealerships. I'll never buy Good Year again.

My next tires will be Interco Trxus MT's. My brother had them on his lifted S-10 Blazer and he had good luck with them. They may be in or close to your price range.


-K
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 5:30:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Special-K:
...

My next tires will be Interco Trxus MT's. ....


-K




Good choice, I personally like the Swamper TSL line of tires and oh the SSR's as well...
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 5:34:08 PM EDT
I have Cooper Discovery ATs on my GMC K1500. No complaints...

A big plus is that they are quite quiet considering the tread pattern.
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 6:09:35 PM EDT
I have had them all. I currently have a 01 Tj with RE 3.5 lift on 33 BFG MTR. Pro Comp is loud and wears out quick. Swampers are for hard core off roaders who have trail dedicated rigs. The swampers you see on the road are driven by wanna-bees. You really only have three good choices for on and off road rig. GOODYEAR MTR is good all around, but runs big $. BFG MTR is next in line. Great off road tire and good on the road. The BGT AT is you choice if you spend a lot of time on the road. Still a good off road tire and is great on the road. The BFG AT will last longer and get the job done. It will cake up on real muddy trails, but be honest, how often do you get dirty?
Link Posted: 12/15/2005 6:08:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Special-K:

Originally Posted By AILapua:
I am in the process of changing over from Goodyear to Uniroyal (HD/T). GY no longer has anything that would be suitable for the 4x4 vehicles.

Now, if I can only locate size 16 tire studs, I will be off to the races.




Good Year has the MT/R's that are pretty popular offroad. They came stock on my Rubicon and they really are great off road. They have been pretty decent in the snow too but it's still early. I have NOT been happy with the mileage. I have to rotate every 3K or they chop REAL bad. I'll be lucky if I get 30K on them running them bald, 25K more likely. I do rotate them every 3K and check pressure regularly. When I complained to the Good Year dealer he laughed at me. Two seperate managers at two seperate dealerships. I'll never buy Good Year again.

My next tires will be Interco Trxus MT's. My brother had them on his lifted S-10 Blazer and he had good luck with them. They may be in or close to your price range.


-K



Co-workers got about 26k on his jeep, and their bald.

My Goodyear Wrangler GS-A's lasted 48k (30x9.50R15, from the factory). But I stretched that some, I wouldn't have wanted to take on snow/ice for the last ~10,000, and I did no off roading for about the last 4-5 months I had the tires.

I'd never get the MT-R's, just because of how poorly they wear.
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