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Posted: 12/8/2005 8:45:14 AM EDT
Hey guys im goin to meps tomorrow to sign on as a 21 bravo, I was just looking for advice or how you like your duties and responsibilities, thanks
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 8:46:19 AM EDT
If you've already made your decision, why are you asking?

(I'm evidently not up with the logic flow here)

NTM
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 10:30:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MNshooter: Hey guys im goin to meps tomorrow to sign on as a 21 bravo, I was just looking for advice or how you like your duties and responsibilities, thanks
Just cross your fingers and hope that Port-A-Potty Forklift Specialist was contracted out to Halliburton in the areas you get delpoyed.
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 10:34:51 AM EDT
Listen to your NCO's.
Don't be afraid to get dirty.
If you can build it in a week, you can blow it up in 10 minutes.
Measure twice, cut once. Pneumatic tools DO work underwater.
Don't trust anyone that tells you "the power is off, I checked it myself." Check it yourself to be sure.
Yes, you can heat MRE's with C4. No, it won't blow up.
Pay attention in Det Class.
Pay more attention when learning about landmines.
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 10:42:11 AM EDT
thanks dvr9
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 10:55:17 AM EDT
What is 21B?

I was a 12B Combat Engineer. I loved blowing stuff up. The bobby trap alley test in AIT was kick ass. You'll never look at a cobble stone street the same again.

I spent 6 months in Iraq blowing stuff up during and after Desert Storm.

Here is a tip; when blowing up a fully loaded French made self propelled artillery gun 2 minutes and 30 seconds IS NOT enough time fuse to get minimum safe distance when driving a vintage M113A1.
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 11:00:49 AM EDT

Originally Posted By markl32:
What is 21B?

I was a 12B Combat Engineer. I loved blowing stuff up. The bobby trap alley test in AIT was kick ass. You'll never look at a cobble stone street the same again.

I spent 6 months in Iraq blowing stuff up during and after Desert Storm.

Here is a tip; when blowing up a fully loaded French made self propelled artillery gun 2 minutes and 30 seconds IS NOT enough time fuse to get minimum safe distance when driving a vintage M113A1.



Anyone hurt! I'd think about five minutes would be cool with all that ammo!
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 11:14:23 AM EDT
Run far, far, far, and as far away as you can.
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 11:15:52 AM EDT
I was a 12B from 71-93...remember, very few problems cannot be solved by a suitable application of high explosives....
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 11:19:04 AM EDT

Get Sapper school written into your contract, if possible.

Link Posted: 12/8/2005 12:20:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By markl32:
What is 21B?

I was a 12B Combat Engineer. I loved blowing stuff up. The bobby trap alley test in AIT was kick ass. You'll never look at a cobble stone street the same again.



About two years ago, they re-vamped the MOS list. I went from 12A to 19A. 12B to 21B is another move, I believe. Not too many changed, but a few.

NTM
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 12:31:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By dvr9:
Listen to your NCO's.
Don't be afraid to get dirty.
If you can build it in a week, you can blow it up in 10 minutes.
Measure twice, cut once. Pneumatic tools DO work underwater.
Don't trust anyone that tells you "the power is off, I checked it myself." Check it yourself to be sure.
Yes, you can heat MRE's with C4. No, it won't blow up.
Pay attention in Det Class.
Pay more attention when learning about landmines.



This guy is an engineer. I don't know what 12 Bravo or 21 Bravo are... My MOS was 1371 Basic Engineer (Marine Corps) Pay more attention when learning about landmines. This is really important. Landmines always made me nervous, emplacing more than removing. Removal is easy...=application of HE. Placing a M15 with a mouse-trap...didn't enjoy it too much.

Be safe.
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 2:20:17 PM EDT
Wear clean drawls and stand up straight.
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 2:25:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MNshooter:
Hey guys im goin to meps tomorrow to sign on as a 21 bravo, I was just looking for advice or how you like your duties and responsibilities, thanks



You can't push a rope.

Fresh water freezes at 32F. It weighs 62.4 pounds per cubic foot. There are 231 cubic inches in a gallon.

Crap flows down hill, although I'm sure the Army has a big ass pump on a trailer that can pump it far higher than anyone could possibly want.

E-1's, E-2's, and E-3's get imitimately aquainted with shovels and lawn mowers, and hand trimmers if you are unlucky.
Link Posted: 12/8/2005 2:28:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By tyman:
Run far, far, far, and as far away as you can.



Are you saying he shouldn't enlist?
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 8:22:19 AM EDT
I enlisted on dec 9, i leave for basic training on jan 12.
Link Posted: 12/13/2005 8:26:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/13/2005 8:27:24 AM EDT by Boom_Stick]

Originally Posted By dvr9:
Listen to your NCO's.
Don't be afraid to get dirty.
If you can build it in a week, you can blow it up in 10 minutes.
Measure twice, cut once. Pneumatic tools DO work underwater.
Don't trust anyone that tells you "the power is off, I checked it myself." Check it yourself to be sure.
Yes, you can heat MRE's with C4. No, it won't blow up.
Pay attention in Det Class.
Pay more attention when learning about landmines.


Just dont stomp it out when your done using it like sterno.

Oh yeah, check out Sapper school.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 5:41:40 AM EDT

Originally Posted By CitySlicker:

Originally Posted By tyman:
Run far, far, far, and as far away as you can.



Are you saying he shouldn't enlist?



We have a winner!

CitySlicker's on fiiirrrrrrrreeeeeeeeee...........

Link Posted: 12/14/2005 5:51:51 AM EDT
I have been in a light combat engineer unit my whole 13 years, I am firmly convinced there is not other MOS where you will get to do as wide a variety of interesting things over the course of your career. Armed as heavily as the Infantry, running infantry missions sometimes, doing lots of demo.

Then again, there is also not another MOS that will have you as miserable, worn out, and continually working while in the field... but it is worth every bit of it.

BTW Active or reserve?
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 5:58:18 AM EDT
Whenever you see infantry guys ask them if they need any fighting positions dug
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 6:38:43 AM EDT
Well I dont know about you guys but the combat designator usually means combat arms. Unless you are attached to a equipment company as like a squad or platoon expect to be in the field front line. I spent a year in Iraq and we spent about 60% of the time doing missions or on standby for missions in the city, %20 of the time doing guard duty (not always booring there) %10 of the time pounding pickets and maybe another %10 doing random stuff. The upper 60 was the best becuase you could chill until you got one and for the most part no one messed with you. Modern days missions last hours not days and you come back to base when it is over and wait for another. In the latter part of the deployment we did raids as squads attached to stryker units and got out of guard duty the day before and after the raid. I spent chrismas eve last year kicking in doors and securing an area then had most of christmas day to chill.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 6:41:13 AM EDT
I was in a Combat Heavy company in the reserves. Lots of building roads, buildings, hospitals etc. Lots of fun, not much combat stuff. We did get to clear mine fields though.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 7:01:44 AM EDT
They are starting to get away from training that way now. A lot of the construction jobs are contracted out as well as the mine field clearing. They have tried to contract some of the other stuff that is more combat related too but they dont get much luck there. With all the changes the army is going through now I wouldnt be surprised if when you get in country you never touch demo and spend your whole time doing tcps, ecps, and raids. At the same time if you get stuck out in the desert somewhere with nothing around you but infantry you might do that other stuff.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 8:52:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AvengeR15:
Get Sapper school written into your contract, if possible.





Sapper school isn't an enlistment option............yet.

As a 21B he can get ranger or airborne, but they haven't started offering sapper as an incentive for initiall contracts yet.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 9:16:04 AM EDT

Originally Posted By LWilde:

Originally Posted By markl32:
What is 21B?

I was a 12B Combat Engineer. I loved blowing stuff up. The bobby trap alley test in AIT was kick ass. You'll never look at a cobble stone street the same again.

I spent 6 months in Iraq blowing stuff up during and after Desert Storm.

Here is a tip; when blowing up a fully loaded French made self propelled artillery gun 2 minutes and 30 seconds IS NOT enough time fuse to get minimum safe distance when driving a vintage M113A1.



Anyone hurt! I'd think about five minutes would be cool with all that ammo!



By a miracle of God, we were not hurt. A basketball sized chunk of steel/armor missed the Track by about 10 feet. Of course we had open troop , driver and gunner hatches...
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:25:54 AM EDT
If the dude training you suddenly gets up and starts running, for God's sake follow him!!
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 11:48:05 AM EDT
Bangalor torpedoes rock, putting them where they are wanted sucks. Bridging sites are always under observation and within range of the enemy's artty. Make good friends of the mess sergeant and the supply sergent. The company clerk is your friend, if not make him your new friend. Stay away from tanks, they are artillery magnets. Buckets on bucketloaders make improvised tents and bunkers. This list could go on for a long ways.
Link Posted: 12/14/2005 12:44:35 PM EDT
Get your 2 years in Volunteer for 89D get paid extra to blowshit up and get the training to do it right. Learn that never again will you pull guard duty CQ or any other assclown details and your deployments are only for six months. We also promote faster and are the only ones authorized to do Render Safe Procedures.
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