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Posted: 11/27/2005 6:35:53 AM EDT
Beretta featured a new carbine at a military show in Paris:


Link Posted: 11/27/2005 6:37:43 AM EDT
kinda looks like it takes AR mags.

Hopefully they won't be too pricey.

I like it.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 6:38:34 AM EDT
Kinda looks like the weapons from Planet of the Apes.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 6:41:18 AM EDT
[paris hilton] that's hot [/paris hilton]
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 6:42:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/27/2005 6:42:44 AM EDT by Admiral_Crunch]
Me likey.

Thanks for sharing!
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 6:42:40 AM EDT
Looks pretty cool. I wonder how much.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 6:43:20 AM EDT
Well, hot DAMN.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 6:43:58 AM EDT
I like it. It doesn't look like the CX4 or whatever the hell that fish shaped gun is called. It might be on my to buy list if it's not too pricey.

Kris
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 6:44:00 AM EDT
DAMN!

I really like the looks of that. I has a decidely HK look to
it.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 6:44:48 AM EDT
lol, military show in paris?

Thats like a skydiving show held in a submarine.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 6:47:05 AM EDT
That thing is uglier than a sack of rotten assholes.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 6:47:34 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 6:50:17 AM EDT
That's rather interesting.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 6:51:45 AM EDT
Looks promising
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 6:53:10 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 6:57:55 AM EDT
Looks pretty ugly. It also looks like the stock and the pistol grips were afterthoughts.

I can picture it now.

Beretta Engineering office

"Hey Louigy, I think we forgot something, can't quite put my finger on it though."

"Yeah Alberto, we forgot lunch, see ya in a few hours."

"No thats not it, Oh Shit, we forgot the stock"

"Easy fix, we will just take one off our shotgun and then sent it to the French. Its not like they would use it any way."
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 6:59:41 AM EDT
Interesting.
But I'd rather be able to put my hands on it before passing judgement.
I'm surethere'll be more info to come if it hangs around.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 7:01:52 AM EDT
I like my Storm. If that thing takes AR mags I'll bite. Thanks for posting the pic. Interesting.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 7:05:17 AM EDT
I'd have to see it in person, I like my Storm though.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 7:07:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/27/2005 7:09:50 AM EDT by Cypher214]
Instead of basing my judgement on looks alone, I'll wait until there is more info about how it operates (probably piston), accuracy, ergonomics, reliability, and cost before I decide whether I love or hate it.

It looks like they borrowed the receiver design from a shotgun... the bolt looks like a shotgun bolt as well. It probably uses a similar system to cycle the action.

Who knows, it may be the best thing to come along since the picattiny rail.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 7:20:01 AM EDT
That is a modified shotgun receiver. Wonder if it works off of inertial recoil. I'll have to look at one if they ever make it here.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 7:24:14 AM EDT

Originally Posted By inzane123:
It also looks like the stock and the pistol grips were afterthoughts.




+223
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 7:47:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/27/2005 7:48:37 AM EDT by MisterFloppy]
Looks neat.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 7:51:37 AM EDT
almost looks like it was built off a semi-auto shotgun.....
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 7:52:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fxntime:
That is a modified shotgun receiver. Wonder if it works off of inertial recoil. I'll have to look at one if they ever make it here.



I was thinking the same thing
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 7:52:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NoVaGator:

Originally Posted By fxntime:
That is a modified shotgun receiver. Wonder if it works off of inertial recoil. I'll have to look at one if they ever make it here.



I was thinking the same thing



whoops, should've read thread!
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 9:18:42 AM EDT
If it says Beretta I'll buy it. (I'm close to owning their entire product line)
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 9:20:20 AM EDT
I wonder what kind of gas system it uses? does it have the AR15 style rotary locking bolt?
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 9:34:54 AM EDT
Well, it better have more METAL parts than the CX4.

I broke my plastic mag release in 2 weeks and when I took it apart was VERY dissapointed in how flimsy it was.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 9:48:25 AM EDT
wanna bet the difference between RX and CX is "restricted" and "civilian"?
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 9:52:11 AM EDT
These days, any new .223 semi is cause for rejoicing.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 9:55:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/27/2005 9:56:16 AM EDT by NonConformist]
Looks like the bastard son of a Cx4 Storm and that .223 pump carbine from Remington





I kinda Like it
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 9:55:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/27/2005 10:01:28 AM EDT by operatorerror]
Looks to me like the stock is adjustable.....or removable.

ETA hey, do you think we will see it at the SHOT show?
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 9:59:10 AM EDT
I like how the bolt release and mag release are blended in to the reciever.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 10:14:39 AM EDT

Originally Posted By sixgunsblazing:
wanna bet the difference between RX and CX is "restricted" and "civilian"?



Wouldn't it be c for carbine and r for rifle?

I don't get the excitment over new .223's. This gun offers nothing that I can see. It's not smaller, i doubt it will be lighter or more accurate. It doesn't hit harder, so what's the big deal. Just another bastard weapon that you can't get parts for or can't modify.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 10:16:37 AM EDT
But it's cool.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 10:18:16 AM EDT
There goes more of my money.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 10:31:48 AM EDT
You guys LIKE that? Hey, ugly girls need love too. Looks only - a Hi-Point looks better.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 10:37:19 AM EDT
That is one fugly arse gun.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 10:42:14 AM EDT
Well, it has slightly more visual appeal than a Hi-Point carbine.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 10:54:23 AM EDT
I wonder if it's possible to fit a standard shotgun stock to it and have it be legal here in banville.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 11:00:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/27/2005 11:02:40 AM EDT by pillbox]
It looks like somebody had to convert a beretta semi auto shotgun with pistol grip into a .223 carbine(and I like the Storm carbine)..this is an odd duck and yes it IS the shotgun receiver that turns me off cold.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 11:01:21 AM EDT
Needs a rail for optics.



I wonder if it will be reversible for right or left hand use like the CX4.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 11:02:59 AM EDT
that thing is BALLS
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 11:10:02 AM EDT
for the life of e i cant uderstand people, although it may look a little diffrent, it least its a new assualt rifle,

how many years was the market stagnet?

we should be embracing any new weapon that comes to market because after hitlery comes to office and we lose the both house of congress, another creative ban will come about that will make it difficult to bring new products to market

with this new entry to the market ,if it makes it, that makes at least 5 decent assualt rifles possibly making it to market in the next year or so

AUG A3
FN p90, fs2000, SCAR/ARM
this new berreta

support them while we can becasue you never know what BS legislation may be passed by the GOV

Hey i love the AR and FALs and others but they are have been around for a long time, its time to add some new stuff to the collection
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 11:12:43 AM EDT
Looks are about 22nd on my list of important features a gun must have. I, unlike half this forum, don't go to the range to impress other guys. I'm hetero.

Anyway, the concept looks promising, and Beretta's pretty good at R&D, I imagine it'll run like a top. Count me interested.
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 11:13:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By m4hk33:
for the life of e i cant uderstand people, although it may look a little diffrent, it least its a new assualt rifle,

how many years was the market stagnet?

we should be embracing any new weapon that comes to market because after hitlery comes to office and we lose the both house of congress, another creative ban will come about that will make it difficult to bring new products to market

with this new entry to the market ,if it makes it, that makes at least 5 decent assualt rifles possibly making it to market in the next year or so

AUG A3
FN p90, fs2000, SCAR/ARM
this new berreta

support them while we can becasue you never know what BS legislation may be passed by the GOV

Hey i love the AR and FALs and others but they are have been around for a long time, its time to add some new stuff to the collection



well said
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 11:14:35 AM EDT

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
almost looks like it was built off a semi-auto shotgun.....


Thats what I was thinking
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 10:51:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By olyarms:

Originally Posted By chapperjoe:
almost looks like it was built off a semi-auto shotgun.....


Thats what I was thinking



Kind of. Looks more like they took their R1 semi auto rifle reciever which itself was a shotgun hybrid and scaled it to the .223.


Link Posted: 11/27/2005 10:54:19 PM EDT
SO I guess lefties get to come damn near getting whacked on the nose with the charging handle?
Link Posted: 11/27/2005 10:59:19 PM EDT
The rifle is okay but they need to fix the fucking stock.


Terence
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