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Posted: 10/31/2005 4:36:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/31/2005 4:38:18 PM EDT by dennysguns]
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 4:38:00 PM EDT
5 years is a pretty good run.

Did you just constantly transfer any payments directly to your bank account to keep it out of PayPal's grubby paws?
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 4:40:41 PM EDT
Bidpay?
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 4:40:58 PM EDT
I never have and never will use them. A loan shark is more honest.
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 4:41:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/31/2005 4:49:07 PM EDT by dennysguns]
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 4:43:23 PM EDT
Dirty bastards...... Hope they go belly up and sunburn their pee pees.
Denny, your better off without them.
Del Ton had a problem with them also.
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 4:46:20 PM EDT
It would be nice if we as a site could move our business to another online pay middleman that is gun friendly. If we made an initiative of it it could gain momentum.
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 4:46:47 PM EDT
What is their deal? You were selling legal products and using Paypal as means to handle the transaction. I'm sure they don't cancel accounts of those selling dildos, porno DVDs, etc, etc.
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 4:47:19 PM EDT
I'm ashamed that such libtards live in the same city as me.

Rumor has it that Paypal was not started legitmately. Many of the people who were around when it first started said there were many fraudulent activities involved in building the company. They're rumored to be some huge flaming assholes too.
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 4:48:19 PM EDT
Fuck'em! Denny I think you should make them mail your $.18 check to you just because, and then maybe use it and your PP Debit Card (if you have one) as targets.
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 4:52:16 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 4:53:35 PM EDT
Screw 'em --let's keep score
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 4:53:48 PM EDT
US Postal money orders are the way to go imho...I won't use paypal...
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 4:57:05 PM EDT
Did you use them for credit card processing?
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 4:59:11 PM EDT
Maybe it's time for AR15.com to start it's own "GUNPAY" service, which could be tied to the new ARMORY page (just like Ebay is tied to Paypal). I would gladly pay a fee for the service.
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 4:59:41 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 5:02:34 PM EDT
You aren't accepting IMs, Denny IM me if you used paypal for CC processing. I work for a large CC processor and maybe i could help with getting a merchant account setup for you.
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 5:02:44 PM EDT
We need to use our combined arfcom buying power to start our own paypal type service....hows gunpay sound? Paypal made a nitch for competition themselves.
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 5:06:32 PM EDT
probably the guy who came on here and about 5 other boards asking if any dealers accept paypal....

the guy posted in the general forum, i called him out and he didnt reply.
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 5:07:04 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 5:10:33 PM EDT
As soon as i get the mags i just ordered i am closing the account, i refuse to give them anymore money.
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 5:13:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/31/2005 5:15:06 PM EDT by dennysguns]
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 5:18:42 PM EDT
Are they still owned by Ebay? Im sure they will be arrogant enough to come back to SHOT this year.


BTW, I sent the SHOT organizers (NSSF) an email regarding anti-gun Ebay being at SHOT. Imagine them never repsponding to me.

Link Posted: 10/31/2005 5:27:17 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 5:38:34 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 5:39:21 PM EDT
That's why I never use them for anything, USPS money orders and the occasional CC.
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 5:40:40 PM EDT
... Hell yeah!

... I'm buying something from you out of principle!
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 5:44:03 PM EDT
It would be awesome if this site could start their own online payment service!

Link Posted: 10/31/2005 5:44:12 PM EDT
Damn, too bad Paypal pulls in so much revenue from other sources that gun businesses are just a blip on their radar. Do they have a written policy against firearms and associated items?

Link Posted: 10/31/2005 5:49:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By CavVet:
BTW, I sent the SHOT organizers (NSSF) an email regarding anti-gun Ebay being at SHOT. Imagine them never repsponding to me.



Same here, CavVet. I was not happy seeing Ebay at SHOT 2004. I loathed the idea of Ebay "encouraging" sporting goods sales on their site while fucking Paypal users.

I have never, nor will I use Paypal. Fuck 'em.
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 5:50:31 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 5:53:19 PM EDT
I do not use ebay or paypal.I can not understand why anyone that believes in the 2nd would use either of them. I told ebay they can kiss my butt and paypal would never get my banking info.
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 5:55:18 PM EDT
Denny, as always, a standup guy.


The issue as I see it isnt with Paypal, when as a subsidiary they are getting their anti gun cues from and controlled straight from corporate Ebay.



imo, the heat needs to be put on people on our side of the fence. NSSF is who needs to hear from us for allowing Ebay within a mile of a pro gun venue.

National Shooting Sports Foundation?? In bed with Ebay?


Thats priceless.

Link Posted: 10/31/2005 6:02:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/31/2005 6:58:37 PM EDT by ZW17]
The truth about paypal


You need to listen to some of the recorded phone calls to paypal..... Scary.

paypalsucks.com/


Link Posted: 10/31/2005 6:26:59 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 6:31:43 PM EDT
fuckbags be careful even if you empty your account they will debit your bank account tied to it with no warning many people have been overdrafted by them
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 6:40:56 PM EDT
I made it 2 years, then the fuck bags did the same thing to me. I am glad i am not alone. I would love to boycott them and I still dont know why ARFCOM takes dealer and memeber payment via paypal!

they really messed up my business since i had a complete paypal shopping cart business...
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 6:46:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/31/2005 6:50:19 PM EDT by JasonC]

Originally Posted By Slacker:
We need to use our combined arfcom buying power to start our own paypal type service....hows gunpay sound? Paypal made a nitch for competition themselves.



GunPal has a better ring to it... I only use them to hide my gun money from my wife.... Hopefully we can all find a better solution.
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 6:49:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By dennysguns:

Originally Posted By GUNGUY1911:
Fuck'em! Denny I think you should make them mail your $.18 check to you just because, and then maybe use it and your PP Debit Card (if you have one) as targets.



Oh yeah. The arrogant bitch on the phone was quite clear that in 180 days they would send me a check for the balance in my account.

Denny



Not fast enough. With all the pimptacular equipment you sell....I think you should go and get your refund sooner.
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 6:51:13 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 6:51:59 PM EDT
I would NEVER buy something from globaltactical anyways. No chance in hell I'd use that.

I'd just drive to the store and buy face to face.
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 6:57:36 PM EDT
Denny - huge hastle, but it's time for everyone in this industry to tell them to kiss off.

For the fees they pay, you should be able to setup a merchant account with your local bank / credit union.
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 6:59:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/31/2005 6:59:59 PM EDT by UmlautArms]
I can now take credit cards and have a merchant account, but after my deal with paypal, the fist bank that i got the merchant account dropped me 3 days after i opened it saying that i was violation of thier policies on guns... WTF

The company was PaymentTech. They are bastards also.

I hate it when they probably are more accepting of people selling viagra or porno than they are on guns...

I already Warned Grant at G&R... it is a matter of time before they fuck him also.
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 7:01:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/31/2005 7:07:46 PM EDT by dennysguns]
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 7:03:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By dennysguns:

Originally Posted By double_trouble_2003:
Denny - huge hastle, but it's time for everyone in this industry to tell them to kiss off.
For the fees they pay, you should be able to setup a merchant account with your local bank / credit union.


No hassle at all. I have my own merchant accounts with Visa, MC, Discover and AMEX and they actually want my business [:
Denny



PS - I've done business with Denny, Grant (G&R) and GTS. All solid guys.
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 7:16:45 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 7:35:58 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 7:51:33 PM EDT
We should be glad EBay is at SHOT. Damn sure I will be visiting their booth if they are there again!

Eric
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 7:58:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/31/2005 8:00:21 PM EDT by A_Free_Man]
Not only should you guys visit their booth, but tell them what you think of them.

Also, all the businesses with booths should tell the SHOT people, it is either them or us... who do you want here? I would assume if there were 8 or 10 businesses cornering a SHOT official in front of the Ebay booth, telling them, "We want these a$$holes out of here now," it would happen. The last thing they want is "problems".

Gotta get up early to be a death merchant

Denny, I really like people with a sense of humor! Big two thumbs up to you!
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 8:06:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/31/2005 8:08:51 PM EDT by V-Rod]
Denny start an Official paypal time coordinated cancel your account thread

I bet that would send a message. Im going to cancel my account as Im tired of these anti gun POS. They locked two AR15.commer dealers at the same time, lets do the same to those fucktards x1000

Denny name the date lets get a list started and say a big fuck you to paypal, AR15 style
Link Posted: 10/31/2005 8:14:18 PM EDT
PAYPAL ARE DICKSUCKERS!
THEY REVERSED A PAYMENT FOR A BLACK POWDER BARREL AND THE SELLER LEFT ME NEGATIVE FEEDBACK INSTANTLY AFTER THAT DICK REQUESTED IMMEDIATE PMT THROUGH PAYPAL. SECOND AND VERY IMPORTANT

3 YEARS AGO I COULD NOT LOG INTO MY EBAY OR MY PAYPAL OR MY EMAIL AFTER 2 DAYS NOT BEING SO COMPUTER SAVY MY BANK CALLS MY ACCOUNT IS OVERDRAWN OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS BY PAYPAL

APPARENTLY MY ACCOUNT WAS COMPRIMISED AFTER THEY DRAINED MY BANK BUYING GOLD BULLION AND SHIPPING IT TO A DROP LOCATION IN ALANTA THEY STARTED SELLING PLASMA TVS FOR 699.99 BY THE HUNDREDS WITH A FEEDBACK SCORE OF 99.8% AND 1200 FEEDBACKS THEY WERE SELLING HUNDREDS

WENT THROUGH HELL PAYPAL HID THE FACT TRIED COVERING IT UP. THEY WOULD NOT HELP LAW ENFORCEMENT TIMELY AND THEY GOT AWAY AND HUNDREDS OF PEOPLEP WANTED TO CUT MY BALLS OFF AND KILL ME
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