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Posted: 7/27/2001 6:47:26 PM EDT
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I don't have any specific info, but I believe that issued orders must be legal or they are invalid. If that means anything at all.
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Originally Posted By Garand Shooter: I am also not talking strictly in a legal sense here, but a moral one as well. When you take an oath to protect, defend, or uphold the constitiution it should take precidence over any order you may be given, unless you don't value that oath.
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You're describing Congresscritters here, aren't you?
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Dang. I thought it was "vote Libertarian!" [:)] [flag]
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Some here might do well to examine the character Javert, and his fate, in "Les Miserables".Too much "law" and not enough "right".
Link Posted: 7/28/2001 5:26:29 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Garand Shooter: [b]Take a cop shooting![/b]
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Funny you should mention this. That is exactly what I intend to do. The only thing that kind of bothers me is, these guys are going to crap when they see the weapons. I'm not sure what I'm going to say when their eyeballs bug out. Nothing illegal, just a nice assortment of ARs and pistols (they want to try the Walther P99 in 9mm and .40). I'm thinking I need to tone it down a little from the usual truck load of guns I take to a shoot.
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Good idea to get the nonshooter LEO's and service members on board. "The hearts and minds" with us is the best way to win this war...oops discussion.
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QUESTION: If the U.S. Marines are called up to confiscate firearms and I'm a U.S. Marine. Do I turn in my own firearms to [b]myself?[/b] I will also pretend I didn't see any firearms at any of your homes. This home is all clear sir!!
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Befriending the police is normally a good thing (I know all of the troopers in my county and shoot and hunt with a couple of them). Most cops aren't going to "look the other way" when something like gun control is pressed by the media, politicians, etc. The "War on Drugs" is a prime example, most cops only fry the small fish and don't appreciate it. Would you want to ruin some guy's life over one joint? But, they enforce the law anyway. When push comes to shove, I'll rely on a good rifle that will zip right through kevlar. I don't care if they are my friends, they are going to die, period. It will only take a few instances in which cops and feds bleed before the politicians will rethink their policies.
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if nothing else, maybe taking a LEO shooting would show him if he had do "do the deed" he wouldnt have a snowmans chance in hell of coming out of it alive
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Wake up to reality, not everyone will be able to take their LEO friends shooting and change the world. the confiscation of your firearms wont happened by armed officials coming to your door, they will slowly implement laws to make it harder to buy them, they will force you to register them and maybe 20 30 years later make them illegal to own and offer money for handing in your firearms. Just look at other country's where this has happened and educate yourselves. The government will always be there and you wont, they cant wait for the number of gun owners to diminish, they are doing a pretty good job using the media to do so. the media will slowly make everyone one of you into a beast for owning a firearm and make you feel obliged to give in your firearms. then you have public outcries over small atrocities committed by criminals your government let out of prison in the first place. Your battle is was lost the day they passed the first gun law, now sit and wait.
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Scarecrow: You open your beak and caw too damn much. Coming from a Canuck, an attack on America regarding gun control is laughable. Are you really that stupid? The perception of the American public towards gun owners has changed greatly over the years. Taking people out shooting is what is responsible for this change in public perception. While birdbrains like you were hourding away their guns and not telling anybody about their dirty secret for fear of being forced to give an intelligent argument, American shooters were and are introducing new shooters to the sport. Antis are converted every day. We are winning down South of the Border, unlike you sorry wretches in Canada. You consistently shit on Americans for anything we say or do. You're an ignorant craphead, shut up!!
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I dint Attack your country you dumb asses, I'm simply telling you that one day your going to be exactly like canada, go read up and shut up [url]http://www.2ndlawlib.org/journals/dkcgc.html[/url]
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