Hav`nt researched it yet...saw it in the EXPENSIVE store, and thought it was way too much....thinking on a cz pcr....the ruger idea was based on past experience, but honestly, i hav`nt bought a ruger in about 8 years, so i did not know if they`re quality was decent or not....i know a LOT of people who own glocks or use them as a duty weapon and only hear good things about them, but my idea was as i stated, shoot the hell out of it. almost bought a highpower last year....not really a 9mm person but let`s be honest..cheap to shoot, and can carry if need be....so the ccw may enter in yes....thanks for your input...i will look at the h/s.....isn`t it a take off of the all american from years past/ saw one of those a couple months back also.....parts have to be a bitch.....this is also a area where glock is desireable.....thing is (no offense) i`m not about to spend $500 on a nine.........[:)]