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Time is Mother Nature's way of keeping everything from happening all at once.
CJ |
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Using this illogic… The Earths core does not exist… show me a picture of the Earths core. |
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Time does exist and its a liberal rag.
p.s. quit drinking the bong water |
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I know damned well that time exists. And I know that I exist. I'm not sure about the rest of you, though.
I'm always right here, but sometimes, you go away. If time didn't exist, then there'd be no past and no future. But obviously, there IS. WAS. And WILL BE. I live in the future of yesterday, the past of tomorrow, and the present present. CJ |
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Might not be a good idea to dwell on the nature of
reality. That is some deep shit that'll end up cooking your noodle. It is damned fun, tho. |
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If you're truly interested, go pick up some books on quantum theory. You'll burn your brain out. |
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The way I see it is this: Time is just the measurement used to judge the order of events.
Time is no more a "substance" than an inch or an ounce is tangible. |
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Show me a picture of gravity. And if you don't think it exists, go jump off a bridge. Me thinks you would be a believer before you hit. |
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Littering and.... and a... littering and.... and a.... littering and.... and a... littering and..... I'm freaking out man! |
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Isn't everything pretty much a vacum when you get down to the smallest scale and coming in going as it pleases? |
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ok--memory does not exist. show me a picture of memory. now, describe reality without resorting to memory--tell me what is happening to you right now. you can't do it. at the very moment of a single, specific event, it becomes a memory, and you process it using remembered perception. therefore, because memory cannot be proven to exist (via your picture method), those events cannot be proven to exist, and if no events can be proven to exist, then nothing can be proven to exist. and i can show you a picture of time. you're looking at it--language. the words in this post are a geometric line extending across your monitor, with a verifyable measure. in other words, they take up space in a dimension--call it the x axis of your monitor. without that extension over the x axis, the words could not be read. the words of a spoken sentence are absolute proof of the existence of time. when words are spoken, they form a geometric line extending across time. if time did not exist, the words could not be spoken nor understood. music is another example. if time did not exist, there would be no difference between music and white noise. |
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Show me a picture of air. Or better yet, show me a picture of God. |
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What a stupid fucking thread.
I'd expect it from none other than OLYARMS . |
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That's a picture of what contains memory. That's like asking for a picture of a gun and showing me a C&C machine and some metal. |
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Okay I looked at some of the quantum physics stuff, if the same atoms can exist in two places in the same moment how can we say time isn't an illusion if one things can exist in two or more places in the same moment. If constrained by time how does this happen?
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I think, therefore I don't give a shit.
Seriously, acid is only fun for the first 4 hours. |
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So you don't belive the cells retain memory thats what the scientist say, so you are looking at memory. And no its not the same thing. The cerebral is designed for the task, maybe if I showed a pile of gun parts but none functional. |
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Funny, I was reading my neice's criminal justice book last week when I went fishig up there. You fit the description of a serial killer. In order to downgrade to a mass murderer, you need grandios dreams of acquiring power and need to blame some group of people to conspire against your plans. |
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Time doesn't exist. The concept of time was developed by someone with the same type of brain that you're using to say that time doesn't exist. We know that things age, or degrade as "time" passes by. Time is just a concept that was developed to keep track of things. Like distance and speed, time is a measurement of what we see and expirience. A measurement could be called something else and it would still mean the same thing. A minute exists because we say it does, the same with a mile. That's how a mile can be a mile and ~1600 meters at the same time. Is it that hard to understand or are you just being a dumbass for the sake of being a dumbass? |
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Wow your a smart fellow, to waste your time on what you feel is stupid. Brilliant!, buy the guy a beer. |
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If I tore the brain out of your head and stuck it in a jar, would it still contain memory? |
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I am saying I don't belive it does, what are you talking about? I am simply asking some one to prove to me that time is real and not an illusion. But I am kind of crazy because I belive we exist along side of those before us and those ahead of us and also that we are all one. |
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Okay is that better? Living cells living person thinking and recalling memorys. |
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Or Decartes' brain in a jar. |
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Okay. So every person has living cells and those cells are composed of the same material in each person. But do we all have the same memories? |
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Define 'time.' Use nontraditional terms, and be original. 'Time' is, as stated, merely a yardstick for the perception of the shift in reality that encompasses being a living, sentient being. Do you think that your dog knows anything about 'time?' Does an amoeba? All situations exist simultaneously, in parallel. All things that 'have happened,' are happenning, or sould possibly ever happen... Are happening right now. Now is all that exists. What we define as 'the passage of time' is simply our perception of the shift from one reality to another. |
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No. Because our memories are composed of a uniquely mapped arrangement of neurons, firing in specific, retained sequences, that are dissimilar from person to person. This is like saying that because all human DNA is composed of certain pairs, that all DNA is the same. It is not. You can arrange it in many, many different patterns, all with a completely different outcome. |
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When you get down to it yes, I would say so they are all made of the same thing everything in our world is made of the same material is it not? |
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What are you talking about man, I am asking those who belive in time to explain to me how time governs us, how it is real. |
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Right, everything is composed of the same basic building blocks, and how those blocks fit together is what makes everything different. But this started because you thought that showing a part of the brain was showing a picture of memory, which it isn't. That was my point. What was yours? |
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My point was really zero on that, just joking around with the picture of time thing. Still just waiting for some one to prove that time isn't more than an illusion. |
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Yeah, and he answered how time is real and how it governs us. Time is a measurement. You could call time "Olyarms is a stupid bastard who can't even explain his own philosophy" (just for example) if you wanted to. All you have to do is define it as a system by which such intervals are measured, and it means the same thing. |
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Okay, you don't mean "time" you mean REALITY. Big difference there. You're going to be waiting forever for someone else to prove to you that REALITY isn't an illusion, because it's something you can only figure out for yourself, because as soon as someone proves it to you, you will wonder if they are real or not. |
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Okay some one has told me to watch "what the bleep do we know" Going to watch it today. Will report back
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Actually there is no time. Time is simply a system made by mankind to chronicle the events of our lives. seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, years, etc are all of our own creation. We could change the system or lose it completely although it makes our lives easier. However to think of time as something that exists in and of itself like air or the sky is not true. At least not completely. There is in a sense a time because this world is filled with beginnings and endings. The end of time (from a christian perspective) is simply when the system of time is no longer relevant because there are no more beginnings or endings. Things just 'are' forever and ever. |
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That's just not true.
If there were no mankind, the events that are part of the universe would still exist and they would still not occur simultaneously. Time is an intrinsic feature of the universe. It is a dimension. CJ |
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