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Posted: 7/23/2001 11:18:36 AM EDT
in the mail today!!  On my birthday no less, what a present!! Just wanted to share that with everyone.  I feel better now!!

Now, what gun(s) to buy first...I'd like to have a nice Mauser or a Garand, but until I graduate in December, money is going to be tight.  I'll be able to spend $100 or so on the first one, what should it be?
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 11:28:06 AM EDT
[#1]
let me bethe first to congradulate you. what is required t o get a C&R liscense?
-jay
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 11:28:42 AM EDT
[#2]
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 11:34:08 AM EDT
[#3]
CDNN has has 1927 Colt Sistema 45ACP for a mere
299.99
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 11:35:59 AM EDT
[#4]
Only a $100? Hmm... You could pick up two Mosin Nagants for a $100! A M44 or a M91/30, both are really good shooters , plus 7.62x54 ammo is cheap.

EDITED to give jay link to ATF Site for C&R Form

[url] http://www.atf.treas.gov/forms/5000.htm#firearms[/url]
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 11:38:25 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
let me bethe first to congradulate you. what is required t o get a C&R liscense?
-jay
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just fill out a form pay 30 bucks and wait for it to come in.

oh yeah u got to keep a bound book
real easy to do
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 11:42:18 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/23/2001 11:45:32 AM EDT
[#7]
Turkish Mauser! another good choice.
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 11:47:47 AM EDT
[#8]
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 12:11:30 PM EDT
[#9]
Thanks for the info everyone.  Just got back from the local copy shop with 30 copies.  I understand Brownells gives a discount to FFL's, do I have to ask for it?  Also, anyone have the link for Brownell's bound book?

GS, you are right about the Garands and the CMP, should have thought about that.  

I'd also like to acquire a Browning/Colt vest pocket pistol, (.25 or .32?), any good web links I can read up on to familiarize myself?
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 12:43:25 PM EDT
[#10]
How long did it take??? I'm still waiting for mine to come in...4+ weeks and counting[>(]
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 12:48:42 PM EDT
[#11]
Sent off the application 6/19/01ish.
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 1:08:15 PM EDT
[#12]
I sent in for one about june 11, and the payment was taken from my bank account about a week later.  I got a call the other day saying that they were processing it, but that I had forgot to put my number on the form. I am hoping to get it this week or the next.
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 1:08:27 PM EDT
[#13]
I don't really understand what you are so happy about. Soon you will have $50 rifles laying all over your house. Did I buy a LEGP? Hell no, cause Ive got 14 old bolt actions that won't fit in the safes already. Just wait until you see the Mauser 4-fers @ $100 or the M44 deals at 3 for $100. In fact I have a Russian M44 carbine laying on the floor not three feet from me that is still in the shipping box coated in about two inches of cosmoline from 3 months ago that I haven't even started to degrease yet. Soon the term "gun cleaning" will take on a whole new meaning for you. You might as well go out and buy a couple of gallons a mineral spirits, some paint brushes, toothbrushes and about 1 trillion of those little red shop rags cause you'll need all of that stuff in the first month. Then comes the ammo...crates and crates of the stuff. You'll have so many damn calibers that you will have to go buy 25 .50cal ammo cans (like I did) just to store all of the stuff...8mm, 7.62x54R...don't even get me started. Soon you will have guns that you don't even remember buying. Opening one of my safes is like going to a gunshow, I can browse for hours. Then you have to start searching for bayonets and slings and little pieces of leather to attach the slings and you'll have so many different types of stripper clips laying around that you won't even know what kind of ammo they go to. I had to quit my job just so I could keep up with all of my guns....funny thing is though, when I told them the reason I was quitting they decided to just keep paying me as long as I wouldn't come back? My UPS driver now has an armored truck and he only has one delivery a day...me. I even had to buy a new truck to take all of my guns to the range with..I really like it and it holds a ton of stuff, but I haven't quite figured out how to fit the forklift securely on the flatbed to help me unload stuff at the range with. I think Im going insane...

Seriously though, you are going to love it. First thing you need to do is just mail your FFL off to everybody that you think you might ever order anything from now. Including supply companies like Brownells. Many of them will put you on mailing lists and some of them require the FFL to let you in to the dealer areas on their websites, like Century Arms. You will get a huge discount at Brownells 30-40% on some stuff, not counting specialty items or gunsmithing tools.

I buy a lot of stuff from Century Arms, I would check them out first and see what kind of deals they have going on when you are ready to buy stuff.

Have fun and start looking into a new safe now.

Michael
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 1:48:08 PM EDT
[#14]
Is their an "approved" list of all the C&R stuff you can buy?

Maybe I should spend $30 on this....


Hmmmm...

Wonder what the wife will think.   :)
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 1:51:41 PM EDT
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Is their an "approved" list of all the C&R stuff you can buy?
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Yep, this years is a little brown book with 36 pages a single spaced, small print filled with guns on the C&R list. You will get all the stuff you need to know with your license in the mail.
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 1:58:16 PM EDT
[#16]
Congratulations! The M44 Mosin Nagant is a good choice for a first one. For information on a lot of these old military rifles go to www.milsurpshooter.com they also have a link to the ATF site that lists a lot of the firearms that are c&r eligible.
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 2:05:02 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/23/2001 2:10:26 PM EDT
[#18]
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 2:15:29 PM EDT
[#19]
Brownells Bound book is here...  hope it links properly.

[url]www.brownells.com/Product/productDetail.asp?ProductID=108010001&CategoryID=0[/url]

And they give up to 25% off most merchandise for your C&R license.  [:D]

Just login and fill out all the necessary information.  I said I had a FFL and then I called a few days after mailing it in to them.  They confirmed they had received it and added me to allow discounts.

Enjoy.
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 2:25:21 PM EDT
[#20]
Thanks raf & 7.  &, about the bound book, do I want the "Firearm Repair Log"? If so how many do I need to buy? Does it allow for the removal of a weapon from my collection?
Link Posted: 7/23/2001 3:30:20 PM EDT
[#21]
Congrats mtnpatriot.  You're excited now.  Let us know how you feel in a few weeks when that credit card bill comes it. :(



Link Posted: 7/24/2001 6:31:32 AM EDT
[#22]
I sure hope you only need one kidney, 'cause you'll soon be selling the other one to fund your new hobby.

C&R is an addiction.  Seek help before it's too late.

[:P] LL [:P]
Link Posted: 7/24/2001 6:43:40 AM EDT
[#23]
Waverunner,I sent mine on 12 June 2001,and got the license on 16 July 2001.
Link Posted: 7/24/2001 6:48:46 AM EDT
[#24]
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Waverunner,I sent mine on 12 June 2001,and got the license on 16 July 2001.
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Well, mine is either in the mail or they're checking my application with a fine tooth comb because I'm a LEO!!!![beer]
Link Posted: 7/24/2001 9:08:25 PM EDT
[#25]
I've had my license since 1 June and have purchased:

1 Spanish FR-8
1 Yugo Unissued M48A
2 Turkish Mausers...Just ordered, be here in 2 weeks

I love my C&R!
Link Posted: 7/24/2001 9:20:03 PM EDT
[#26]
OK I'll bite just what is a C&R??
Link Posted: 7/25/2001 7:20:11 AM EDT
[#27]
Curios & Relics

Simply put, any firearm over fifty years old.
Link Posted: 7/25/2001 7:34:29 AM EDT
[#28]
Don't forget, there are a few CLASS III C&R guns out there.  With your C&R license, you can get them shipped directly to YOU! (No transfer fee)

[:D][img]www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/M16.gif[/img][img]www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/2M16.gif[/img]
Link Posted: 7/25/2001 7:36:20 AM EDT
[#29]
Still have to pay the damm "tax" though. [pissed]
Link Posted: 7/25/2001 12:10:06 PM EDT
[#30]
Can a person be denied a C&R FFL because of residency requirements?
I know my city restricts FFL dealers with zoning laws, can I be denied a C&R for the same reasons?
What are some of the reasons a person can be denied a C&R FFL, except the obvious reasons that would deny them the ability of purchasing a firearm such as felony convictions, etc.?

Thanks
Link Posted: 7/25/2001 1:52:16 PM EDT
[#31]
I'm investigating doing the "CRUFFLER" thing.
Location will be the determining factor, I'm afraid.  
I sure miss having my FFL!
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