Read down into the details of Section 9 for an indepth look into deadly force in Texas.



PENAL CODE

CHAPTER 9. JUSTIFICATION EXCLUDING CRIMINAL RESPONSIBILITY

SUBCHAPTER A. GENERAL PROVISIONS


§ 9.01.  DEFINITIONS.  In this chapter:                                    
(1)  "Custody" has the meaning assigned by Section
38.01.                  
(2)  "Escape" has the meaning assigned by Section
38.01.                    
(3)  "Deadly force" means force that is intended or
known by the actor to cause, or in the manner of its use or intended
use is capable of causing, death or serious bodily injury.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.  
Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,
1994;  Acts 1997, 75th Leg., ch. 293, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1997.


§ 9.02.  JUSTIFICATION AS A DEFENSE.  It is a defense to
prosecution that the conduct in question is justified under this
chapter.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.  
Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,
1994.


§ 9.03.  CONFINEMENT AS JUSTIFIABLE FORCE.  Confinement
is justified when force is justified by this chapter if the actor
takes reasonable measures to terminate the confinement as soon as
he knows he safely can unless the person confined has been arrested
for an offense.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.  
Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,
1994.


§ 9.04.  THREATS AS JUSTIFIABLE FORCE.  The threat of
force is justified when the use of force is justified by this
chapter.  For purposes of this section, a threat to cause death or
serious bodily injury by the production of a weapon or otherwise, as
long as the actor's purpose is limited to creating an apprehension
that he will use deadly force if necessary, does not constitute the
use of deadly force.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.  
Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,
1994.


§ 9.05.  RECKLESS INJURY OF INNOCENT THIRD PERSON.  Even
though an actor is justified under this chapter in threatening or
using force or deadly force against another, if in doing so he also
recklessly injures or kills an innocent third person, the
justification afforded by this chapter is unavailable in a
prosecution for the reckless injury or killing of the innocent
third person.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.  
Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,
1994.


§ 9.06.  CIVIL REMEDIES UNAFFECTED.  The fact that
conduct is justified under this chapter does not abolish or impair
any remedy for the conduct that is available in a civil suit.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.  
Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,
1994.

SUBCHAPTER B. JUSTIFICATION GENERALLY


§ 9.21.  PUBLIC DUTY.  (a)  Except as qualified by
Subsections (b) and (c), conduct is justified if the actor
reasonably believes the conduct is required or authorized by law,
by the judgment or order of a competent court or other governmental
tribunal, or in the execution of legal process.
(b)  The other sections of this chapter control when force is
used against a person to protect persons (Subchapter C), to protect
property (Subchapter D), for law enforcement (Subchapter E), or by
virtue of a special relationship (Subchapter F).
(c)  The use of deadly force is not justified under this
section unless the actor reasonably believes the deadly force is
specifically required by statute or unless it occurs in the lawful
conduct of war.  If deadly force is so justified, there is no duty to
retreat before using it.
(d)  The justification afforded by this section is available
if the actor reasonably believes:
(1)  the court or governmental tribunal has
jurisdiction or the process is lawful, even though the court or
governmental tribunal lacks jurisdiction or the process is
unlawful;  or
(2)  his conduct is required or authorized to assist a
public servant in the performance of his official duty, even though
the servant exceeds his lawful authority.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.  
Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,
1994.


§ 9.22.  NECESSITY.  Conduct is justified if:                              
(1)  the actor reasonably believes the conduct is
immediately necessary to avoid imminent harm;
(2)  the desirability and urgency of avoiding the harm
clearly outweigh, according to ordinary standards of
reasonableness, the harm sought to be prevented by the law
proscribing the conduct;  and
(3)  a legislative purpose to exclude the justification
claimed for the conduct does not otherwise plainly appear.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.  
Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,
1994.

SUBCHAPTER C. PROTECTION OF PERSONS


§ 9.31.  SELF-DEFENSE.  (a)  Except as provided in
Subsection (b), a person is justified in using force against
another when and to the degree he reasonably believes the force is
immediately necessary to protect himself against the other's use or
attempted use of unlawful force.
(b)  The use of force against another is not justified:                        
(1)  in response to verbal provocation alone;                                
(2)  to resist an arrest or search that the actor knows
is being made by a peace officer, or by a person acting in a peace
officer's presence and at his direction, even though the arrest or
search is unlawful, unless the resistance is justified under
Subsection (c);
(3)  if the actor consented to the exact force used or
attempted by the other;
(4)  if the actor provoked the other's use or attempted
use of unlawful force, unless:
(A)  the actor abandons the encounter, or clearly
communicates to the other his intent to do so reasonably believing
he cannot safely abandon the encounter;  and
(B)  the other nevertheless continues or attempts
to use unlawful force against the actor;  or
(5)  if the actor sought an explanation from or
discussion with the other person concerning the actor's differences
with the other person while the actor was:
(A)  carrying a weapon in violation of Section
46.02;  or                  
(B)  possessing or transporting a weapon in
violation of Section 46.05.    
(c)  The use of force to resist an arrest or search is
justified:            
(1)  if, before the actor offers any resistance, the
peace officer (or person acting at his direction) uses or attempts
to use greater force than necessary to make the arrest or search;  
and
(2)  when and to the degree the actor reasonably
believes the force is immediately necessary to protect himself
against the peace officer's (or other person's) use or attempted use
of greater force than necessary.
(d)  The use of deadly force is not justified under this
subchapter except as provided in Sections 9.32, 9.33, and 9.34.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.  
Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,
1994;  Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 190, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.


§ 9.32.  DEADLY FORCE IN DEFENSE OF PERSON.  (a)  A
person is justified in using deadly force against another:
(1)  if he would be justified in using force against the
other under Section 9.31;
(2)  if a reasonable person in the actor's situation
would not have retreated;  and
(3)  when and to the degree he reasonably believes the
deadly force is immediately necessary:
(A)  to protect himself against the other's use or
attempted use of unlawful deadly force;  or
(B)  to prevent the other's imminent commission of
aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual
assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.
(b)  The requirement imposed by Subsection (a)(2) does not
apply to an actor who uses force against a person who is at the time
of the use of force committing an offense of unlawful entry in the
habitation of the actor.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.  
Amended by Acts 1983, 68th Leg., p. 5316, ch. 977, § 5, eff.
Sept. 1, 1983;  Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept.
1, 1994;  Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 235, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.


§ 9.33.  DEFENSE OF THIRD PERSON.  A person is justified
in using force or deadly force against another to protect a third
person if:
(1)  under the circumstances as the actor reasonably
believes them to be, the actor would be justified under Section 9.31
or 9.32 in using force or deadly force to protect himself against
the unlawful force or unlawful deadly force he reasonably believes
to be threatening the third person he seeks to protect;  and
(2)  the actor reasonably believes that his
intervention is immediately necessary to protect the third person.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.  
Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,
1994.


§ 9.34.  PROTECTION OF LIFE OR HEALTH.  (a)  A person is
justified in using force, but not deadly force, against another
when and to the degree he reasonably believes the force is
immediately necessary to prevent the other from committing suicide
or inflicting serious bodily injury to himself.
(b)  A person is justified in using both force and deadly
force against another when and to the degree he reasonably believes
the force or deadly force is immediately necessary to preserve the
other's life in an emergency.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.  
Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,
1994.

SUBCHAPTER D. PROTECTION OF PROPERTY


§ 9.41.  PROTECTION OF ONE'S OWN PROPERTY.  (a)  A person
in lawful possession of land or tangible, movable property is
justified in using force against another when and to the degree the
actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to
prevent or terminate the other's trespass on the land or unlawful
interference with the property.
(b)  A person unlawfully dispossessed of land or tangible,
movable property by another is justified in using force against the
other when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force
is immediately necessary to reenter the land or recover the
property if the actor uses the force immediately or in fresh pursuit
after the dispossession and:
(1)  the actor reasonably believes the other had no
claim of right when he dispossessed the actor;  or
(2)  the other accomplished the dispossession by using
force, threat, or fraud against the actor.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.  
Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,
1994.


§ 9.42.  DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY.  A person is
justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or
tangible, movable property:
(1)  if he would be justified in using force against the
other under Section 9.41;  and
(2)  when and to the degree he reasonably believes the
deadly force is immediately necessary:
(A)  to prevent the other's imminent commission of
arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the
nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime;  or
(B)  to prevent the other who is fleeing
immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated
robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the
property;  and
(3)  he reasonably believes that:                                            
(A)  the land or property cannot be protected or
recovered by any other means;  or
(B)  the use of force other than deadly force to
protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or
another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.  
Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,
1994.


§ 9.43.  PROTECTION OF THIRD PERSON'S PROPERTY.  A person
is justified in using force or deadly force against another to
protect land or tangible, movable property of a third person if,
under the circumstances as he reasonably believes them to be, the
actor would be justified under Section 9.41 or 9.42 in using force
or deadly force to protect his own land or property and:
(1)  the actor reasonably believes the unlawful
interference constitutes attempted or consummated theft of or
criminal mischief to the tangible, movable property;  or
(2)  the actor reasonably believes that:                                      
(A)  the third person has requested his protection
of the land or property;
(B)  he has a legal duty to protect the third
person's land or property;  or
(C)  the third person whose land or property he
uses force or deadly force to protect is the actor's spouse, parent,
or child, resides with the actor, or is under the actor's care.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.  
Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,
1994.


§ 9.44.  USE OF DEVICE TO PROTECT PROPERTY.  The
justification afforded by Sections 9.41 and 9.43 applies to the use
of a device to protect land or tangible, movable property if:
(1)  the device is not designed to cause, or known by
the actor to create a substantial risk of causing, death or serious
bodily injury;  and
(2)  use of the device is reasonable under all the
circumstances as the actor reasonably believes them to be when he
installs the device.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.  
Amended by Acts 1975, 64th Leg., p. 913, ch. 342, § 6, eff. Sept.
1, 1975.  Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,
1994.


~m38a1

Can I move to texas? Yeah I know, technically im a yankee. But I think id fit in.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It sounds like most of you want looters to come to your areas just so you can actually use your shiny rifles on something that moves.  Am I totally wrong? Most of them aren't shiny. It ain't tactical. You're right.  But seriously, it sounds like the Texans in here are getting pumped up to finally be able to kill somebody.  Sad. Fuckin . Another sad example of the pussification of the American male. BTW,  jquillen1985. The village called. They want their victim back.

I had a feeling logic would piss you guys off.  Read carefully. I never said anything about how people shouldn't be able to fight for their life or property or be armed to the teeth for any reason at all.  I said that from the looks of the previous comments, people, mainly Texans, were actually hoping that someone would try to break into their house or steal their cars simply so they could put to use some of their hundreds of hours at the range.  I didn't say anything close to "you should just sit and watch your stuff get stolen."  I said it was sad that some people would like for their homes to be broken into so they could get the legal chance to kill somebody, which I strongly believe some people here want.

ETA: NFBBM, does it make me a pussy that I would rather somebody not break into my home?

they're not getting pumped to kill anyone.  If anyone here thinks people enjoy killing random people then they have NEVER been a soldier nor do they have respect for others lives be it human or animal

They do have adreniline because they need to protect they're property and family from looters, criminals, and who knows what else if things get bad.  

Think people before you post some things.

Quoted: they're not getting pumped to kill anyone.  If anyone here thinks people enjoy killing random people then they have NEVER been a soldier nor do they have respect for others lives be it human or animal They do have adreniline because they need to protect they're property and family from looters, criminals, and who knows what else if things get bad.   Think people before you post some things.

While there are plenty of prior service guys on here, there are plenty more who only wish they could've been, so you're spot on with that first part.

God bless Texas!  

Quoted: [ My guess is that's just how Texans are....

Thanks for lumping us all togather prick.  Maybe you ought to pull your head out of your ass and think before you fucking post.  Have you actually been here or do you personally know anyone from our state?  Or you just a closed minded hippie from Oregon- Land of the hairy armpitted women?


ETA, Just remember it has to be at night folks.  Daytime doesn't count.

Don't forget there will be Texas Rangers

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It sounds like most of you want looters to come to your areas just so you can actually use your shiny rifles on something that moves.  Am I totally wrong? Most of them aren't shiny. It ain't tactical. You're right.  But seriously, it sounds like the Texans in here are getting pumped up to finally be able to kill somebody.  Sad. Fuckin . Another sad example of the pussification of the American male. BTW,  jquillen1985. The village called. They want their victim back. I had a feeling logic would piss you guys off.  Read carefully. I never said anything about how people shouldn't be able to fight for their life or property or be armed to the teeth for any reason at all.  I said that from the looks of the previous comments, people, mainly Texans, were actually hoping that someone would try to break into their house or steal their cars simply so they could put to use some of their hundreds of hours at the range.  I didn't say anything close to "you should just sit and watch your stuff get stolen."  I said it was sad that some people would like for their homes to be broken into so they could get the legal chance to kill somebody, which I strongly believe some people here want. ETA: NFBBM, does it make me a pussy that I would rather somebody not break into my home?

Again Jquillen1985,

To characterize your waffling rationalizations as "logic" is an insult to Descartes.

Your lack of understanding is horribly obvious to those of a certain mindset, but it's such an alien concept to you, you cant understand.  You mistake rightous behavior as bloodlust.

You fail to see the honor and quiet satisfaction of fulfilling a social responsiblility.  How horrible for you and those who would depend on you.

Quoted: I had a feeling logic would piss you guys off. Read carefully. I never said anything about how people shouldn't be able to fight for their life or property or be armed to the teeth for any reason at all. I said that from the looks of the previous comments, people, mainly Texans, were actually hoping that someone would try to break into their house or steal their cars simply so they could put to use some of their hundreds of hours at the range. I didn't say anything close to "you should just sit and watch your stuff get stolen." I said it was sad that some people would like for their homes to be broken into so they could get the legal chance to kill somebody, which I strongly believe some people here want.

Go take a dump; that feeling will go away.

Quoted: While there are plenty of prior service guys on here, there are plenty more who only wish they could've been, so you're spot on with that first part.

You're fucked up in the head.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It sounds like most of you want looters to come to your areas just so you can actually use your shiny rifles on something that moves.  Am I totally wrong? Most of them aren't shiny. It ain't tactical. You're right.  But seriously, it sounds like the Texans in here are getting pumped up to finally be able to kill somebody.  Sad. Fuckin . Another sad example of the pussification of the American male. BTW,  jquillen1985. The village called. They want their victim back. I had a feeling logic would piss you guys off.  Read carefully. I never said anything about how people shouldn't be able to fight for their life or property or be armed to the teeth for any reason at all.  I said that from the looks of the previous comments, people, mainly Texans, were actually hoping that someone would try to break into their house or steal their cars simply so they could put to use some of their hundreds of hours at the range.  I didn't say anything close to "you should just sit and watch your stuff get stolen."  I said it was sad that some people would like for their homes to be broken into so they could get the legal chance to kill somebody, which I strongly believe some people here want. ETA: NFBBM, does it make me a pussy that I would rather somebody not break into my home? Again Jquillen1985, To characterize your waffling rationalizations as "logic" is an insult to Descartes. Your lack of understanding is horribly obvious to those of a certain mindset, but it's such an alien concept to you, you cant understand.  You mistake rightous behavior as bloodlust. You fail to see the honor and quiet satisfaction of fulfilling a social responsiblility.  How horrible for you and those who would depend on you.

God almighty!  It's like you didn't even read what I said!  Instead of everyone saying, "Gee, I hope looting doesn't happen," they say, "Cha-ching!  I hope looters come to my neck of the woods so I can put my weapons to use."  That's the sad part.  Instead of hoping for a peaceful ending, they hope to be able to squeeze off some rounds on a live traget for once.  

PS:  I'll be in the Army in two years, so I don't know if you've served or anything, but I'll take pleasure in defending people like you.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It sounds like most of you want looters to come to your areas just so you can actually use your shiny rifles on something that moves.  Am I totally wrong? Most of them aren't shiny. It ain't tactical. You're right.  But seriously, it sounds like the Texans in here are getting pumped up to finally be able to kill somebody.  Sad.

It is never sad if the correct people receive what they have comming, ie, Justice. Some are just proud of a State that has not yet stood justice on it's head.

Quoted: If it wasnt so damn hot in TX i'd move there..

What hot?  It did not get over 102 in NE Texas all year.  Course, this is the cooler part of the Great State.

Jquillian...Ok I will say it...I would love to have some low life son of a bitch come to my place and give me an excuse to load his ass full of lead. Maybe he can bring lots of his friends so that  I could compare the ak and the ar. Now how about that? I get so fucking tired of people like you whining and crying when somebody somewhere should be filling these assholes full of fucking holes. Every fucking idiot on earth now thinks that they can do whatever they want because the NO police just loot right along with them.
Maybe some of us should be looking forward to handing out massive lead injections.....maybe I am one of them. Are you happy now?

Quoted: That's it, I'm moving to TEXAS!

Me too

Quoted: I LOVE MY STATE!!!!!!!!!!

Me too!

No, I have NO DESIRE to shoot ANYONE.   Nor do the people I associate with.  But for the love of God and all that is Holy, I appreciate the fact that I live in a State that upholds my right (and responsibililty!) to defend myself, my loved ones, my property, and my neighbors!

Don't Mess with Texas!
ETA:  OK, I associate with Hound (love ya, Bro!) and JUST MAYBE he wants to pump somebody's ass full of lead...  But not without provocation!

Quoted: Jquillian...Ok I will say it...I would love to have some low life son of a bitch come to my place and give me an excuse to load his ass full of lead. Maybe he can bring lots of his friends so that  I could compare the ak and the ar. Now how about that? I get so fucking tired of people like you whining and crying when somebody somewhere should be filling these assholes full of fucking holes. Every fucking idiot on earth now thinks that they can do whatever they want because the NO police just loot right along with them. Maybe some of us should be looking forward to handing out massive lead injections.....maybe I am one of them. Are you happy now?

Yeah.  At least you have the balls to admit it instead of dodging around like most people.  I'd rather you didn't need/want/have to do that, but if it comes down to it, I guess you should make sure you have a clear sight picture.  I'd be willing to bet money that no ARFcom member fires a round in anger during the entire Rita and aftermath.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It sounds like most of you want looters to come to your areas just so you can actually use your shiny rifles on something that moves.  Am I totally wrong? Most of them aren't shiny. It ain't tactical. You're right.  But seriously, it sounds like the Texans in here are getting pumped up to finally be able to kill somebody.  Sad.

Just what the hell is wrong with that? Maybe it's time somebody re-set a positive example of how America was and should be again. Let the cameras roll. Or would you rather have more video of Lousiana sheeple meekly surrendering their firearms and allowing themselves to be evicted from their own homes?

Do you want to know what special activities I been doing to prepare for this horror weekend?
Have I been sitting in the dark loading mags and cleaning my guns giggling all the while? No I have been on the phone making sure my friends have places to stay this weekend and that everyone is well taken care of.
My firearms are always ready. This week I have been making sure that The people I love are right and have a place to bunk. That's Texas my friend.
Don't insult us or talk down to us. Even The adopted Texans don't take that shit well.

Two points I have not seen addressed yet.

If you are attacked by a looter, he is no longer a looter but an assailant, and it's becomes about defending your health and safety, not about  property.

I would suggest shooting to slidelock in this instance.

Next,  a LOT of crime can be prevented by truncating the careers of about 5% of the population.

Most of the time we have to wait until they overdose or get killed by their fellow careerists.  Think of this hurricane as a shortcut to lower crime rates.  

any one mind a Florida boy coming to your state and where should I live

Excuse my fucking french...Johninaustin and myself agree on something...the end of the world approaches.....

Texas is the country I wish I lived in.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It sounds like most of you want looters to come to your areas just so you can actually use your shiny rifles on something that moves.  Am I totally wrong? Most of them aren't shiny. It ain't tactical. You're right.  But seriously, it sounds like the Texans in here are getting pumped up to finally be able to kill somebody.  Sad.

Remember to BAAAAAAAAA very quietly when you cower as your property is stolen. One does not need to wonder why NO had thousands of looters and Texas will have a much smaller amount even tho the evac. population will be greater.

Quoted: overheard in a small texas town, names changed to protect the innocent. texasblunek:  hey BC, is that a looter? bigcountry_neartexas:  Yep, sure looks like one. Texasblunek:  well shit, hold my beer and watch this. bigcountry_neartexas:  you know, you dumbfuck, if you woulda just used theredsheeps patented beerholder, I wouldn't have to hold this beer. texasblunek:  well fuck, just hold the damn thing while I pop that bitch.   bang. bigcountry_neartexas:  shit, did you see his head explode....... texasblunek:  yep, now, are these fajitas done.  Man I love cooking on God's gas... TXL

fire hot

That was just recently changed allowing you  to have a handgun in the car.  You had to be traveling but travelling was never defined.  A long arm was always fine

Quoted: You're right.  But seriously, it sounds like the Texans in here are getting pumped up to finally be able to kill somebody.  Sad.

Not somebody. Criminal scum. The people that engage in looting tend to be repeat offenders who make a career out of inflicting pain on innocent victims. Society would be a much better place without them. Why not wish for the opportunity fill them with lead if it would mean they could no longer assault, murder, rape, and rob others? Some folks just need killin', and Texans are happy to provide that much needed service.

Nothing sad about it. Sad is trying to make excuses for that behavior. "Oh, he's not to blame, his mommy must have dropped him on his head when he was little." Apparently she didn't drop him hard enough.

[Ron White]While other states are banning the death penalty, Texas is putting in an Express Lane [/Ron White]

America the way it should be.

God almighty! It's like you didn't even read what I said! Instead of everyone saying, "Gee, I hope looting doesn't happen," they say, "Cha-ching! I hope looters come to my neck of the woods so I can put my weapons to use." That's the sad part. Instead of hoping for a peaceful ending, they hope to be able to squeeze off some rounds on a live traget for once.

Unfortunately you failed to understand what I wrote, but that doesnt surprise me at all.  I really dont think you're capable of understanding.

PS: I'll be in the Army in two years, so I don't know if you've served or anything, but I'll take pleasure in defending people like you.

Yes, child.  As some of those in this thread who know me personally are aware, I'm a Vet.  Get back to me after a couple of years.  I'll accept your apology.


"Don't laugh at a youth for his affectations; he is only trying on one face after another to find his own. "
Logan Pearsall Smith (1865 - 1946)

Good luck with that...

As the Song Goes:

God Bless Texas with His own hand
Brought down angels from the promise land
Gave em' a place where they could dance
If you wanna see heaven brother here's your chance
I've been sent to spread the message

God bless Texas!

Quoted: Do you want to know what special activities I been doing to prepare for this horror weekend? Have I been sitting in the dark loading mags and cleaning my guns giggling all the while? No I have been on the phone making sure my friends have places to stay this weekend and that everyone is well taken care of. My firearms are always ready. This week I have been making sure that The people I love are right and have a place to bunk. That's Texas my friend. Don't insult us or talk down to us. Even The adopted Texans don't take that shit well.

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Amen brother!


Well said..

I am just hoping my cousin and family made it out of Houston.

The traffic coming through my town is CRAZY!! There are people pushing their cars to the gas station..

Good luck to all of my fellow Texans in our SHTF moment!

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It sounds like most of you want looters to come to your areas just so you can actually use your shiny rifles on something that moves.  Am I totally wrong? Most of them aren't shiny. It ain't tactical. You're right.  But seriously, it sounds like the Texans in here are getting pumped up to finally be able to kill somebody.  Sad. Fuckin . Another sad example of the pussification of the American male. BTW,  jquillen1985. The village called. They want their victim back. I had a feeling logic would piss you guys off.  Read carefully. I never said anything about how people shouldn't be able to fight for their life or property or be armed to the teeth for any reason at all.  I said that from the looks of the previous comments, people, mainly Texans, were actually hoping that someone would try to break into their house or steal their cars simply so they could put to use some of their hundreds of hours at the range.  I didn't say anything close to "you should just sit and watch your stuff get stolen."  I said it was sad that some people would like for their homes to be broken into so they could get the legal chance to kill somebody, which I strongly believe some people here want. ETA: NFBBM, does it make me a pussy that I would rather somebody not break into my home? Again Jquillen1985, To characterize your waffling rationalizations as "logic" is an insult to Descartes. Your lack of understanding is horribly obvious to those of a certain mindset, but it's such an alien concept to you, you cant understand.  You mistake rightous behavior as bloodlust. You fail to see the honor and quiet satisfaction of fulfilling a social responsiblility.  How horrible for you and those who would depend on you. God almighty!  It's like you didn't even read what I said!  Instead of everyone saying, "Gee, I hope looting doesn't happen," they say, "Cha-ching!  I hope looters come to my neck of the woods so I can put my weapons to use."  That's the sad part.  Instead of hoping for a peaceful ending, they hope to be able to squeeze off some rounds on a live traget for once.   PS:  I'll be in the Army in two years, so I don't know if you've served or anything, but I'll take pleasure in defending people like you.

You sure they'll want you?
Nobody wants to shoot and kill someone, all they are saying is if looters come, it won't be like NO. THAT was chaos because no one did anything to stop them. The neighborhoods that came out OK were the ones that were armed and the looters knew it. Funny how not all that much happened in them. Musta been a kwinky-dink, right? And I would take great satisfaction in stopping some POS dirtbag looter from  breaking into my neighbors house. I would NOT take great satisfaction in having to shoot them. I would hope that I never have to be in that situation again. See the difference?

Actually, we should use the Texas SHTF event to clean up a whole bunch of scum. Like all the NO asshole criminals that got let loose before Katrina, or the ones (unfortunately, probably less than a dozen or so) that were actually arrested for looting. Like the NO assholes that were shooting at rescue workers.  Like that POS John Couey that raped and murdered Jessica Lunsford. Like that vermin that killed Dillion Grone and his family in Washington. Or perhaps those 3 Aruban cocksuckers that raped and probably killed Natalee Holloway.

Just bring them all down here. We'll give them a 30 minute headstart, and whoever drops the most gets a Christmas turkey. The world would be a better place.

"Don't Fuck Mess With Texas" has always been doublespeak.

We're some of the politest, most laid-back and tolerant people you'll ever meet, but by golly if you piss us off we WILL kick your ass.

It's like Jeff Foxworthy says:

"If you break into my house and I catch you, I'll shootcha! But if my wife catches you, she'll shoot you and give you a lecture! 'Do you know why you got shot? Why don't you get a job? You better stop bleedin' on my good rug or I'll shoot you again you sumbich!'"



Rules for Texas:

Don't want shot? It's really simple. Here's how:

Don't break into my house. Or I'll shoot you.

Don't steal my things. Or I'll shoot you.

Don't attack or try to kill me. Or I'll shoot you.

Don't rape nobody. Or I'll shoot you.

Don't set fire to nothin'. Or I'll shoot you.

Don't destroy my stuff. Or I'll shoot you.

Think of laws in Texas as hints. You've heard somebody say "man, I wouldn't do that shit if I was you!" Well, in Texas if you do any of that shit, we'll shoot your ass. It's that simple.

Quoted: Gibson also commented that those policies sound kind of "Draconian" and asked if there had been any court rulings or opinions that would stifle citizens willingness to use guns to protect their property and community. The Judge said no.

Pricks like Gibson fuck everything up for the law abiding

Quoted: That's it, I'm moving to TEXAS!

+1, if the weather didn't suck.  

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It sounds like most of you want looters to come to your areas just so you can actually use your shiny rifles on something that moves.  Am I totally wrong? Most of them aren't shiny. It ain't tactical. You're right.  But seriously, it sounds like the Texans in here are getting pumped up to finally be able to kill somebody.  Sad. My guess is that's just how Texans are....

Better gun-confiscating JBTs than tourists from California.

I wonder if any of the Louisiana looters who are in TX will try for round 2 there? It would be justice for them to find out why texas is not like the big easy.

Quoted: Just wait till FEMA takes charge (after the hurricane) and stars to confiscate guns.

I suspect if FEMA tries it, the cops will go ape shit and book them.

"Don't mess with Texas" means exactly what it says !

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It sounds like most of you want looters to come to your areas just so you can actually use your shiny rifles on something that moves.  Am I totally wrong? Most of them aren't shiny. It ain't tactical. You're right.  But seriously, it sounds like the Texans in here are getting pumped up to finally be able to kill somebody.  Sad.

Can you say "Baaaah baaaah".  

I am hunkered down and loaded for bear!  

Just for the record jquillen1985, your points are well taken, but your wording is indicative of a libtard.  

It is not sad that anyone who, after watching the masses of welfare NOLA citizens rape, pillage and burn, would want the opportunity to "take care of business".   It is called "Manning up" or "Cowboy Up" or being a sheepdog.   Whatever you want to call it.

Choose your words better next time.  

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It sounds like most of you want looters to come to your areas just so you can actually use your shiny rifles on something that moves.  Am I totally wrong? Most of them aren't shiny. It ain't tactical. You're right.  But seriously, it sounds like the Texans in here are getting pumped up to finally be able to kill somebody.  Sad. My guess is that's just how Texans are.... If you mean having a low tolerance for thieves, rapists and murderers… Yes. I also relish to the inevitable shrill pitched squeals of the sheep. Disdainful remarks about protecting yourself and your property highlight the difference between a free man and slaves of the welfare state.  May your chains weigh lightly upon you. If you're whining because you are something other than a sheep… I promise that your grave will have a headstone and that the journey from here to there will be a quick one.

oh shit! sorry I should have added some smilys, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!  I was trying to smack talk   that other guy.

Quoted: If it wasnt so damn hot in TX i'd move there..

+1 I'd be a west Texas cowboy.

I'll be in TX in 3 weeks!!  w00t!

Y'all need to export your laws to us here in NC.


Vulcan94

"Nothing I have is worth you dying for."

Or: "Nothing here is worth you dying for."

Talon Arms is in Houston. They're not bugging out. See their Industry forum.

GL

Quoted: Excuse my fucking french...Johninaustin and myself agree on something...the end of the world approaches.....

OMG!    +1  [bananna]

That's it, game over.  

What whould Johninausting do?

Shoot to slidelock.

Good answer.

TXL