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Posted: 7/21/2001 7:17:47 AM EDT

I picked this up at the OGCA show this am. 1953 Moisan-Nagant, never been fired, not a scratch, all matching #s
[img]www.ar15.com/members/albums/Waldo/moisen.jpg[/img]

Guess you can still have cheap fun at a gunshow.

Posted: 7/21/2001 7:22:27 AM EDT

[#1]

Nice! 7.62X54R is a bad a$$ round. have fun and be safe.

Posted: 7/21/2001 7:23:08 AM EDT

[#2]

Damn that's nice looking Waldo, congrats. How much is 7.62x54 rimmed going for nowadays?

Posted: 7/21/2001 7:29:13 AM EDT

[#3]

Well shit that's nice. I want one. Congrats.

Posted: 7/21/2001 1:24:27 PM EDT

[#4]

Well, I did some checking on the net. I guess it's an unissued Polish M44, even the sling is original. Guess it was worth $100.

As for the ammo, it was going for $43 for a 440 round tin. I need some stripper clips for it now.

Posted: 7/21/2001 2:08:43 PM EDT

[#5]

[img]http://communities.msn.com/_Secure/0SgAAABoWDPUy59T*M4sxY0f*vHxGJt!BzUkA1F!IBROuyzcRT6JxhGZTbx7i666DimL6j23USUDyxqG*xVvYF*U*udiFi5h9YUsqmnu1nR0MRbqZOPsRvQ/ROMANIAN-NAGANT-44-CARBINE-crop.jpg[/img]

I paid 57.00 for mine.These things are way underated.You would have to really work to double feed one,even though its a push feed.If you look how it operates. It will not release a shell out of the mag until the fired round is ejected.

Posted: 7/21/2001 2:16:51 PM EDT

[#6]

Hope you got some good ammo. The Albanian ammo I got a few months ago won't chamber 80% of the time. I have a M44 and a few 91/30's and I can't get the bolt closed on the ammo. About 2 in 10 will let me close the bolt and fire.

Otherwize, great gun and booom muzzle flash big time.

Posted: 7/21/2001 4:40:04 PM EDT

[#7]

wolf is making 7.62x54r ive seen it for like 2 bux a box not bad for new 7.62x54 since norma is like 30 a box but Norma isnt ment for blasting ammo

Posted: 7/21/2001 5:15:27 PM EDT

[#8]

Congrats

That rifle is a hell of a lot nicer than the 98k I gave a bill for a while back.

Posted: 7/21/2001 6:09:26 PM EDT

[#9]

That looks sweet. Maybe thats why I didnt do the OGCA today...I hate walking away empty handed! 4473 on it?

Posted: 7/21/2001 6:13:46 PM EDT

[#10]

Holy crap that looks brand new. Thats one nice Mosin. Probably has been rearsenaled. My brother has a Mosin Nagant M91/30 Sniper. Not a fake. Actual sniper. Came with PU Scope lower mount. All he had to do was buy the PU scope for $300.

Posted: 7/21/2001 6:13:57 PM EDT

[#11]

Waldo, that thing looks NICE!
I've got 3 Mosin-Nagants, 2 91-30s and a Romanian M44. I like my M44 the best, but it's not as nice looking as yours!

Posted: 7/21/2001 6:34:37 PM EDT

[#12]

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Congrats

That rifle is a hell of a lot nicer than the 98k I gave a bill for a while back.

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Yeah, but your 98k is worth what you got in it as the basis for a sporter if nothing else. The Mosin's are fine as curios, they kick like a mule, are fun to shoot, but are basicly just good for what they are. I like mine, but I would take a mauser any day over it.
Scott

Posted: 7/21/2001 6:46:51 PM EDT

[#13]

Yeah, I agree. Mines an actual Nazi rifle(proofs removed of course[:(]). But that is one nice looking Nagant.

Posted: 7/22/2001 1:38:14 AM EDT

[#14]

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That looks sweet. Maybe thats why I didnt do the OGCA today...I hate walking away empty handed! 4473 on it?

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No papers, private sale. I didn't need it, but I couldn't turn down a rifle that looked that nice for $100 price. I love the OGCA show [:P]
I'm packing it in the truck with the others for a trip to Tusco right now.

Posted: 7/22/2001 1:47:39 AM EDT

[#15]

Very Nice!! Looks alot better then mine. I suggest you think about getting a recoil pad for it, the kick hard. Also check out the muzzle flash, especially at night!

sgtar15

Posted: 7/22/2001 8:02:05 AM EDT

[#16]

Nice Moisin. I really enjoy Finnish 91/30, but can't say the same about my Chinese M-44 copy. Big difference in quality, but that's what you expect from most Chinese stuff

Posted: 7/22/2001 3:59:09 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
Very Nice!! Looks alot better then mine. I suggest you think about getting a recoil pad for it, the kick hard. Also check out the muzzle flash, especially at night!

sgtar15

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I shot 60 rounds through it today between a few AR's and my 300mag. Didn't kick too bad. You know it's there, but I have a lightweight Mod 700 in .308 that kicks harder.
I'll have to try a night shot ;)

Posted: 7/22/2001 4:08:53 PM EDT

[#18]

Dude that is sweeeeetttttt!!!!! What a find!!!!

Posted: 7/22/2001 9:55:14 PM EDT

[#19]

Picked up mine for $50 at Big 5 a few months ago.

[img]http://www.petenelson.com/Photos/Misc/Guns/Mosin%20Nagant/Small/Mosin%20Nagant%2001.jpg[/img]

Posted: 7/23/2001 8:06:19 AM EDT

[#20]

I saw Waldo shooting it as I pulled up to the range, it looked like it came of the assembly line yesterday,the thing that impressed me the most about Waldo's peice was how well the stock was fit up, the russians were usually pretty sloppy, Waldo's was'nt, apperently there were still some craftsmen in poland, Waldo, the ammo you were shooting may have been either the 147gr or 174gr bullet, (according to this book I have, these 2 weights are most common, but there are other weights as well that you'll run across) velocity is listed in metric,(so I don't know how fast it's going) Also, that stuff was probably corrrosive, So if you haven't cleaned it out, you'd better get to it soon, easy way to neutralize the corrosive salts is to soak a patch in a 50/50/ mixture of ammonia and water, wring the patch with your thumb and forefinger and run this up the bore and swab it out a few times and then run a dry patch in and dry the bore,then clean the bore as you normally would, I'd consider ALL surplus nagant ammo as corrosive, no matter what it says on the box

Posted: 7/23/2001 1:06:42 PM EDT

[#21]

Thanks for the info Ralph.
BTW, don't forget the Tusco steel plate shoot [%|]

Posted: 7/23/2001 1:29:21 PM EDT

[#22]

Oh, I won't, I've got the shorty all dialed in,and I'm good to go, hope to see you there

Posted: 7/23/2001 1:47:43 PM EDT

[#23]

Ralph, I just got my little book of conversions out. The LVE ammo had a 705 m/s velocity, which works out to 2313 fps. (meters per sec X 3.281 to get feet per sec.)
Get this, the 13g bullet works out to a 200.59 grain bullet! (grams X 15.43 =grains)

Posted: 7/23/2001 1:55:27 PM EDT

[#24]

Waldo -

that is one nice lookin' Mosin Nagant.

I'm not sure why, but I've never taken a likin' to the Mosin's. Kinda like wheel guns. Don't care much for them either.

Don't know why. Just never have.

Still, nice one you found.

Posted: 7/23/2001 3:46:04 PM EDT

[#25]

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Waldo -

that is one nice lookin' Mosin Nagant.

I'm not sure why, but I've never taken a likin' to the Mosin's. Kinda like wheel guns. Don't care much for them either.

Don't know why. Just never have.

Still, nice one you found.

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Well, I think I just kind of turned a corner so to speak on my collecting.
I've got about all the black rifles I can handle after all the Klintoon years and hate to go to shows without buying anything. I really did'nt have any nice examples of WWII era bolt guns.

Posted: 7/24/2001 5:19:46 AM EDT

[#26]

200gr bullets Eh,? WOW, I did'nt think they were that heavy,I know how you feel about the WW-2 bolt guns,right now I've got 3-mosins (1 on hold for a friend)4-miltary mausers,a .no4-mk1 enfield (.303) they grow on you,Last summer I went and got a C&R license,and have been broke since, Seriously, It's paid for itself on the first rifle I ordered,If you think you might want to pickup a few more of these neat old rifles, A C&R maybe the way to go,cost $30.00 for 3 year license,(which you renew in 3years)you can buy C&R classed firearms directly from the wholesaler and get them shipped right to your door! no more going to some dealer had having him order it for you, and clip you a little for making a phone call, no forms to fill out either, all you have to do is keep a bound book like a dealer does, so when you buy a C&R rifle it has to be entered in your book,(that might take about 2 mintues depending on how fast you write) this C&R thing has worked great for me, best $30.00 I ever invested

Posted: 7/24/2001 9:04:35 PM EDT

[#27]

Nice Mosin, but here is a picture of my $100 toy. Actually mine was $99.00 but with shipping it was $107.00. I love my C&R license!
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/p766e60daf68549d9a9f85870805af8fa/fe56c7cd.jpg.orig.jpg[/img]

Posted: 7/25/2001 1:36:31 AM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:
Nice Mosin, but here is a picture of my $100 toy. Actually mine was $99.00 but with shipping it was $107.00. I love my C&R license!

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Wow, you C&R guys sure get some good deals.
Is that a brass buttplate?

Posted: 7/25/2001 9:41:04 AM EDT

[#29]

Buttplate is steel, the lighting in my computer room just made it look that way.

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