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Link Posted: 9/7/2005 7:00:11 AM EDT
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Speaking of college roommates, did you know that Al Gore used to room with Tommy Lee Jones while at Harvard?

I think that is totally unfair.  Gore is able to get T.L.J all of his acting gigs, slowly preparing him for a position as the Director of the Conspiracy!  Oh, the horror!




I think this is a little different.
Link Posted: 9/7/2005 7:07:00 AM EDT
[#2]

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And oh yeah, I think it does matter, because when buddies hire each other and someone isn't qulaified for the job, people die because of it.



Let's see,

Mike Brown holds a bachelor's degree in Public Administration/Political Science from Central State University, Oklahoma. He received his J.D. from Oklahoma City University’s School of Law.

first Under Secretary of Emergency Preparedness and Response in the newly created Department of Homeland Security in January 2003 and he is also the head of FEMA.

Before becoming the head of FEMA, he was the Deputy Director and the agency's General Counsel of FEMA.  (Wait, I thought you said he was appointed out of the blue because he was some guy's roommate.  Seems here he was the Deputy Director before he became Director)  Mr. Brown served on the President's Consequence Management Principal's Committee, which acted as the White House's policy coordination group for the federal domestic response to the attacks. Later, the President asked him to head the Consequence Management Working Group to identify and resolve key issues regarding the federal response plan. In August 2002, President Bush appointed him to the Transition Planning Office for the new Department of Homeland Security, serving as the transition leader for the EP&R Division.

Prior to joining FEMA, Mr. Brown practiced law in Colorado and Oklahoma, where he served as a bar examiner on ethics and professional responsibility for the Oklahoma Supreme Court and as a hearing examiner for the Colorado Supreme Court. He had been appointed as a special prosecutor in police disciplinary matters. While attending law school he was appointed by the Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee of the Oklahoma Legislature as the Finance Committee Staff Director, where he oversaw state fiscal issues. His background in state and local government also includes serving as an assistant city manager with emergency services oversight and as a city councilman.  [

Michael D. Brown's bio

He seems pretty qualified for the job.
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 10:49:09 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:

Quoted:
And oh yeah, I think it does matter, because when buddies hire each other and someone isn't qulaified for the job, people die because of it.



Let's see,

Mike Brown holds a bachelor's degree in Public Administration/Political Science from Central State University, Oklahoma. He received his J.D. from Oklahoma City University’s School of Law.

first Under Secretary of Emergency Preparedness and Response in the newly created Department of Homeland Security in January 2003 and he is also the head of FEMA.

Before becoming the head of FEMA, he was the Deputy Director and the agency's General Counsel of FEMA.  (Wait, I thought you said he was appointed out of the blue because he was some guy's roommate.  Seems here he was the Deputy Director before he became Director)  Mr. Brown served on the President's Consequence Management Principal's Committee, which acted as the White House's policy coordination group for the federal domestic response to the attacks. Later, the President asked him to head the Consequence Management Working Group to identify and resolve key issues regarding the federal response plan. In August 2002, President Bush appointed him to the Transition Planning Office for the new Department of Homeland Security, serving as the transition leader for the EP&R Division.

Prior to joining FEMA, Mr. Brown practiced law in Colorado and Oklahoma, where he served as a bar examiner on ethics and professional responsibility for the Oklahoma Supreme Court and as a hearing examiner for the Colorado Supreme Court. He had been appointed as a special prosecutor in police disciplinary matters. While attending law school he was appointed by the Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee of the Oklahoma Legislature as the Finance Committee Staff Director, where he oversaw state fiscal issues. His background in state and local government also includes serving as an assistant city manager with emergency services oversight and as a city councilman.  [

Michael D. Brown's bio

He seems pretty qualified for the job.



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Link Posted: 9/8/2005 10:55:18 AM EDT
[#4]
This seems weird having to explain this to another American but here goes!

America is a capitalist society, capitalism meaning the econy drives itself, Supply and demand and all that great stuff, But more importantly it means that if you are a private citizen even if you used to be a public official............You can start a Company to do anything you fucking well please as long as it isn't a criminal enterprise!!!!!!

End of lesson for today Young Grasshopper!!!
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 11:00:28 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
And oh yeah, I think it does matter, because when buddies hire each other and someone isn't qulaified for the job, people die because of it.



Let's see,

Mike Brown holds a bachelor's degree in Public Administration/Political Science from Central State University, Oklahoma. He received his J.D. from Oklahoma City University’s School of Law.

first Under Secretary of Emergency Preparedness and Response in the newly created Department of Homeland Security in January 2003 and he is also the head of FEMA.

Before becoming the head of FEMA, he was the Deputy Director and the agency's General Counsel of FEMA.  (Wait, I thought you said he was appointed out of the blue because he was some guy's roommate.  Seems here he was the Deputy Director before he became Director)  Mr. Brown served on the President's Consequence Management Principal's Committee, which acted as the White House's policy coordination group for the federal domestic response to the attacks. Later, the President asked him to head the Consequence Management Working Group to identify and resolve key issues regarding the federal response plan. In August 2002, President Bush appointed him to the Transition Planning Office for the new Department of Homeland Security, serving as the transition leader for the EP&R Division.

Prior to joining FEMA, Mr. Brown practiced law in Colorado and Oklahoma, where he served as a bar examiner on ethics and professional responsibility for the Oklahoma Supreme Court and as a hearing examiner for the Colorado Supreme Court. He had been appointed as a special prosecutor in police disciplinary matters. While attending law school he was appointed by the Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee of the Oklahoma Legislature as the Finance Committee Staff Director, where he oversaw state fiscal issues. His background in state and local government also includes serving as an assistant city manager with emergency services oversight and as a city councilman.  [

Michael D. Brown's bio

He seems pretty qualified for the job.



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He was given the job on a silver patter by his former buddy.  How would you feel if some lawyer became Chief of Staff of the Army?  A war breaks out and he botches it.  He'd still been Chief of Staff for two years previously, so he's qualified, right?  Don't even try and make it look like he knew what he was doing.
Link Posted: 9/8/2005 11:37:40 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
And oh yeah, I think it does matter, because when buddies hire each other and someone isn't qulaified for the job, people die because of it.



Let's see,

Mike Brown holds a bachelor's degree in Public Administration/Political Science from Central State University, Oklahoma. He received his J.D. from Oklahoma City University’s School of Law.

first Under Secretary of Emergency Preparedness and Response in the newly created Department of Homeland Security in January 2003 and he is also the head of FEMA.

Before becoming the head of FEMA, he was the Deputy Director and the agency's General Counsel of FEMA.  (Wait, I thought you said he was appointed out of the blue because he was some guy's roommate.  Seems here he was the Deputy Director before he became Director)  Mr. Brown served on the President's Consequence Management Principal's Committee, which acted as the White House's policy coordination group for the federal domestic response to the attacks. Later, the President asked him to head the Consequence Management Working Group to identify and resolve key issues regarding the federal response plan. In August 2002, President Bush appointed him to the Transition Planning Office for the new Department of Homeland Security, serving as the transition leader for the EP&R Division.

Prior to joining FEMA, Mr. Brown practiced law in Colorado and Oklahoma, where he served as a bar examiner on ethics and professional responsibility for the Oklahoma Supreme Court and as a hearing examiner for the Colorado Supreme Court. He had been appointed as a special prosecutor in police disciplinary matters. While attending law school he was appointed by the Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee of the Oklahoma Legislature as the Finance Committee Staff Director, where he oversaw state fiscal issues. His background in state and local government also includes serving as an assistant city manager with emergency services oversight and as a city councilman.  [

Michael D. Brown's bio

He seems pretty qualified for the job.



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He was given the job on a silver patter by his former buddy.  How would you feel if some lawyer became Chief of Staff of the Army?  A war breaks out and he botches it.  He'd still been Chief of Staff for two years previously, so he's qualified, right?  Don't even try and make it look like he knew what he was doing.



How do you know?  Not only was he "some lawyer" as you put it (which probably over 80% of the employees of the Federal Govt are) but he did serve as an assistant city manager with emergency services oversight, Deputy Director of FEMA, General Consul of FEMA, holds a degree in Public Administration, etc etc.  

Comparing the job of Chief of Staff of the Army to the Director of FEMA is comparing apples to oranges.  The Chief of Staff is a position within the military, the Director of FEMA is a cilivian position, one which is currently being held by the former Deputy Director and General Consul.  I think you would be hard pressed to find someone who is more qualified than Mike Brown.  Who do you think should have that position?

Or, how about we use a tatic that you tried using earlier?  Where is your proof that he was hired because he used to be a roommate to some guy, and not because he was the most qualified for the position?  I want links.  I want statements.  I have provided a link showing his qualifications, and I think most here on this board would agree that his qualifications is pretty good.  You need to prove that he was hired solely because he was some guy's buddy, and his qualifications had nothing to do with it.

Link Posted: 9/8/2005 1:53:47 PM EDT
[#7]
For the people in this thread who missed it jquillen1985 started a new thread.  Guess he couldn't handle it in here.

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=386945
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