Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Fucking A, you load that bus with 70 people, I can guaranfuckingtee you that you could find ONE, count it ONE person on that bus (a) can drive and (b) will drive. Did you pick your username or did your momma decide you earned it????????? People must think that busses have some way of defying physics. A bus cannot hold 70ppl. No way in hell, there is not enough room and the motor/chassis would probably fail. You average school bus is rated for 30+/- high schoolers, and trust me, you don't want anymore people them that for a 7 hour+ trip. Don't tell that to the 100 people that arrived in Houston on (here it comes)  1 stolen school bus!  Christ if they knew it could only hold 30 they'd of never made it!  Study up on common sense 101 this year kid!

Really? Exactly 100 people were on a school bus? And the news said this? Did they count them? IS this just like the "zero supplies" the survivors were given? Did you not see the cases of MREs and water being dropped down?

Do you think that maybe, that there might be a faint chance the the news exagerted?

Quoted: These are regular-sized buses we're talking about here, Schmeghead, not the short ones you're familiar with.

Quoted: This kid did -   www.newschannel5.tv/2005/9/1/4255/Taking-refuge-in-the-Astrodome Funny thing is, the article says he 'found' the abandoned school bus. Saw him last night on the news, says he went into the bus yard's office, found the keys matching the bus number and when asked by the reporter - "Did you steal it?" He said 'Yes, I stole it.' In my eyes, he commandeered it.  Good job kid!

Awesome.

Adapt Improvise Overcome.

Mayor Nagin should explore seppuku.

Quoted: Quoted: If the mayor had EVACUATED THE CITY using the school busses, then there would be no need for the buses to be at the Superdome or convention center, BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE NO ONE TO EVACUATE! Also compare: Your average bus driver -> HS grad or GED Astronaut -> BS, MS or PhD It can't be that hard. Evacuate 100,000 people on 200 school buses........mmmmkay.......by your math that's 500 people per bus!  WOW!  Incredible how the public school system has failed us.....you're living proof.

UH...

Oh come now you are not really that dense.

The city of NO moves 25,000 kids a day and that don't count the other school buses that could have been brought in from all over the state.

They could have got at least 50,000 people out with the buses available may be the whole 100,000.

But the Mayor of NO and the Governor of LA did not want to do any kind of evacuation until the President declared a National Emergency and then personally called the Governor and brow beat her in to ordering one. It don’t look like the Mayor and the Governor tried to hard even after that.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Fucking A, you load that bus with 70 people, I can guaranfuckingtee you that you could find ONE, count it ONE person on that bus (a) can drive and (b) will drive. Did you pick your username or did your momma decide you earned it????????? People must think that busses have some way of defying physics. A bus cannot hold 70ppl. No way in hell, there is not enough room and the motor/chassis would probably fail. You average school bus is rated for 30+/- high schoolers, and trust me, you don't want anymore people them that for a 7 hour+ trip. Don't tell that to the 100 people that arrived in Houston on (here it comes)  1 stolen school bus!  Christ if they knew it could only hold 30 they'd of never made it!  Study up on common sense 101 this year kid! Really? Exactly 100 people were on a school bus? And the news said this? Did they count them? IS this just like the "zero supplies" the survivors were given? Did you not see the cases of MREs and water being dropped down? Do you think that maybe, that there might be a faint chance the the news exagerted?

When your balls drop and you are old enough, enlist in the Army, THEN you will know for sure exactly how many will fit on a Bluebird!  Until then, study up for Common Sense 101 there's a test Teusday! Oh and if you do join, request stationing in Central America.  Then you can REALLY get a grasp on how many people fit on a school bus!

In some High Schools around the country the Seniors drive the buses...

At least that's the way it was in Charleston, SC during the 1980's

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Fucking A, you load that bus with 70 people, I can guaranfuckingtee you that you could find ONE, count it ONE person on that bus (a) can drive and (b) will drive. Did you pick your username or did your momma decide you earned it????????? People must think that busses have some way of defying physics. A bus cannot hold 70ppl. No way in hell, there is not enough room and the motor/chassis would probably fail. You average school bus is rated for 30+/- high schoolers, and trust me, you don't want anymore people them that for a 7 hour+ trip. Don't tell that to the 100 people that arrived in Houston on (here it comes)  1 stolen school bus!  Christ if they knew it could only hold 30 they'd of never made it!  Study up on common sense 101 this year kid! Really? Exactly 100 people were on a school bus? And the news said this? Did they count them? IS this just like the "zero supplies" the survivors were given? Did you not see the cases of MREs and water being dropped down? Do you think that maybe, that there might be a faint chance the the news exagerted?

What is the maximum number of students on a bus?

The standard school bus has a seating capacity of 3 students per seat or 66 students. For middle and high school students, CCBOE's preferred seating capacity is 2 students per seat or 44 students. State law permits school buses to operate up to a 20% overload (79 students).

What is the maximum number of students on a bus?

The standard school bus has a seating capacity of 3 students per seat or 66 students. For middle and high school students, CCBOE's preferred seating capacity is 2 students per seat or 44 students. State law permits school buses to operate up to a 20% overload (79 students).]What is the maximum number of students on a bus?

The standard school bus has a seating capacity of 3 students per seat or 66 students. For middle and high school students, CCBOE's preferred seating capacity is 2 students per seat or 44 students. State law permits school buses to operate up to a 20% overload (79 students).

You could squeeze approximately 50 to 70 into the bus... wouldn't be the leisure of life, but, we're trying to get the hell out of the way... not give personal tours of the south.

You could easily fit a huge amount, and get them out.

Quoted: Quoted: And do what?  Order those school bus drivers to ignore their own families needs to drive 100's of thousands of people out of the state back and forth?   You can't make anybody do anything in this country without pointing guns at their heads. Ya, I gotta imagine people who know how to drive trucks and buses are incredibly rare in a port city like New Orleans. And also most people have never ridden on a bus in years so they probably wouldn't know how to sit down in them properly. They'd be wandering all over the bus disoriented and confused, it would be chaos. Clearly a bad idea all around. The Mayor clearly foresaw this problem and cleverly ignored the buses.

If you can drive a car, you can drive a bus.  It's not that different. I drove them when I was 21 for a cruise ship/tour company after a week of training (and that was all safety, driving backwards through cones, parallel parking, emergency stuff, maintenance, etc).  A few minutes of getting used to it and you could drive down the freeway no problem.

Quoted: Quoted: Are they supposed to magically drive themselves? Who drives kids to school everyday? Ever watch South Park? If that "woman" could drive a bus, any guy with testicles could do it lol...

How about the Lady on FOX that had GWB look into her eyes as she told him she would never vote for him again?

Quoted: Quoted: The plan was to give shelter to people at the Superdome and Convention Center.  When the levee's broke how long do you think they had to muster 200 drivers to drive 200 buses and load up 4000 (20ppl x 200 buses) before the buses were already flooded? Would it have made a difference if we're talking a 1 way trip? I'm not a genius or anything but what if, and I'm only saying, WHAT IF they actually brought the buses to the Superdome "just in case"? You know, like in case something went wrong. You could maybe have buses and drivers ready "just in case." You know, kinda like a prepared plan "just in case."

Way to much planing for that loser of a Mayor.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The plan was to give shelter to people at the Superdome and Convention Center.  When the levee's broke how long do you think they had to muster 200 drivers to drive 200 buses and load up 4000 (20ppl x 200 buses) before the buses were already flooded? Would it have made a difference if we're talking a 1 way trip? I'm not a genius or anything but what if, and I'm only saying, WHAT IF they actually brought the buses to the Superdome "just in case"? You know, like in case something went wrong. You could maybe have buses and drivers ready "just in case." You know, kinda like a prepared plan "just in case." Well, I agree with you there.  But, where do you "park" 200 buses in and around the Superdome?  That would have made getting out of town for people in personal vehicles impossible.

Where do you park at the Superdome?!?

You can't possibly be serious.

Everyone gather around and take a real good look at the above pic, it is the inside of a school bus. This particular school bus has 11 rows of seats. Look at how wide the seats are. Are you going to tell me that they are going to fir 4 people in one seat and still have people sitting/standing in the isle. Remember, these are the same people complaining because there MREs are cold. And all this would have to take place before an actual emergancy.

Who is the one that needs to study common sense?

Quoted: i10.ebayimg.com/04/i/04/b0/f4/7d_12_sb.JPG Everyone gather around and take a real good look at the above pic, it is the inside of a school bus. This particular school bus has 11 rows of seats. Look at how wide the seats are. Are you going to tell me that they are going to fir 4 people in one seat and still have people sitting/standing in the isle. Remember, these are the same people complaining because there MREs are cold. And all this would have to take place before an actual emergancy. Who is the one that needs to study common sense?

Is that a picture of the short bus you ride?

Quoted: i10.ebayimg.com/04/i/04/b0/f4/7d_12_sb.JPG Everyone gather around and take a real good look at the above pic, it is the inside of a school bus. This particular school bus has 11 rows of seats. Look at how wide the seats are. Are you going to tell me that they are going to fir 4 people in one seat and still have people sitting/standing in the isle. Remember, these are the same people complaining because there MREs are cold. And all this would have to take place before an actual emergancy. Who is the one that needs to study common sense?

www.davidthomastours.com/images/SchoolBus/SchoolBus_interior.html

Same type of seating.

48/72 Passenger School Bus

So, lets go in the middle.

60 people per bus.

Quoted: i10.ebayimg.com/04/i/04/b0/f4/7d_12_sb.JPG Everyone gather around and take a real good look at the above pic, it is the inside of a school bus. This particular school bus has 11 rows of seats. Look at how wide the seats are. Are you going to tell me that they are going to fir 4 people in one seat and still have people sitting/standing in the isle. Remember, these are the same people complaining because there MREs are cold. And all this would have to take place before an actual emergancy. Who is the one that needs to study common sense?

You just don't know how to "Haitian Pack."

100 inside and 25 on the roof + a chicken.

Quoted: i10.ebayimg.com/04/i/04/b0/f4/7d_12_sb.JPG Everyone gather around and take a real good look at the above pic, it is the inside of a school bus. This particular school bus has 11 rows of seats. Look at how wide the seats are. Are you going to tell me that they are going to fir 4 people in one seat and still have people sitting/standing in the isle. Remember, these are the same people complaining because there MREs are cold. And all this would have to take place before an actual emergancy. Who is the one that needs to study common sense?

www.recordholders.org/en/list/carcram.html

Just tell them it's a contest and they are going to be seen on Oprah!!!!

World Records for Most Persons in a Car
OFFICIAL RECORD LIST BY THE REKORD-KLUB SAXONIA
Rules
The car and bus cramming records are all subject to the following rules:

The vehicle must be a standard production model.
No seats, fitments and such shall be removed.
All windows, doors, boot and bonnet must be closed on competition.
The time limit to achieve the record must be no more than 10 minutes.
The vehicle's engine must be started on completion of the cram.
The team members must be at least 16 years old.
Because of the vast number of makes of vehicles on the road today, the number of car cramming records in this list should be reduced to a few cars only. If you want to set a record, please prefer to beat a record that is in our list. However, we will expand the list if there are interesting new claims for well-known cars.
(Note: The rules used by Guinness World Records differ from the above rules. In particular, Guinness requires a minimum age of 18 years and no person who is less than 1.525 m [5ft] may participate.]

Record breakers please contact [email protected]

Audi 80: 21
British Leyland Metro: 21, members of the Plymouth Young Wives Association at Davenport (U.K.), on 30 Sept 1982
British Leyland Mini: 39
Ford Escort Mk. 1: 20, students of the Birmingham University (U.K.), 16 November 1985
Ford Sierra: 27, students at the University of Nottingham (U.K.), 14 October 1985
Jaguar XJ6: 42, The Moss Bay Mojorettes in Jacksonville (USA), 26 August 1984
standard 56-seater London double-decker bus: 354 pupils from Chunet View Middle School, Leeks (U.K.), 15 December 1989
Maruti: 42, Gira Bagri (India) and his team, 26 February 1995
Mercedes Benz MBO 405G bus (normal capacity: 144 persons): 438 students of Temasek Polytechnic in Singapore, 3 July 1998
M. G. B. G. T.: 10
Mini Cooper: 21 "beach party" at open-air bath Pfaffenhofen (Germany) on 12 July 2003
Renault Espace: 34 students of the École supérieure de commerce (France), 17 November 1988
Skoda Felicia: 28, students of a high school in Brno (Czech Republic), 27 June 1997
Skoda Octavia: 32, students of a high school in Brno (Czech Republic), 27 June 1997
Smart: 18 people from Bad Abbach, Oct 2002 [minimum age 15 years only for this category]
Toyota Tercel 1300: 29, Verkehrskadetten March-Höfe, Pfäffikon (Switzerland)
Trabant 601 S: 32, Phönix Soccer Club Wildau (Germany), November 1998 [minimum age 10 years only fro this category]
12 men who are at least 2 m [6 ft 7 in] tall, "Clubs of Tall People" meeting, Torgau (Germany) 30 Sept 2000
VW Golf: 30, Raiffeisen Youth Club Langenlois (Austria), 6 November 1983
New VW Beetle ("new Beetle"): 27, Penn State Abington (EU), 25. 4. 2001
VW Beetle: 34, members of Chelsea College (Great Britain), 15 February 1969

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The plan was to give shelter to people at the Superdome and Convention Center.  When the levee's broke how long do you think they had to muster 200 drivers to drive 200 buses and load up 4000 (20ppl x 200 buses) before the buses were already flooded? Would it have made a difference if we're talking a 1 way trip? I'm not a genius or anything but what if, and I'm only saying, WHAT IF they actually brought the buses to the Superdome "just in case"? You know, like in case something went wrong. You could maybe have buses and drivers ready "just in case." You know, kinda like a prepared plan "just in case." Way to much planing for that loser of a Mayor.

Hey and maybe because the Super Dome and Convention Center are primary shelters in NO you have food, water, generators, fuel, medical supplies, ect. stockpiled there to take care of the number of people it might shelter there plus a little reserve.

And enough personal for security.

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Interior Headroom 74"- 77"
Aisle Width Varies by floor plan
Front Door 27" wide, 78" high / double "full view" outward opening with tempered glass
Rear Door 52.5" x 37.7" emergency door
Wheel Cut 50°
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Seating Capacity 54-90 passengers
Length 347" - 480"
Width 96"
Interior Width 90"
Height 114" -118"
Skirt Length 16 3/4"
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Step Height (f/r) Varies
Overhang (f/r) Front-88", rear-varies on model sizes
Interior Headroom 74"; 77" (Optional)
Aisle Width Varies by floor plan
Front Door 78" x 30"
Rear Door 52.5" x 37.7"
Wheel Cut 45°
Tire Size 11R x22.5H, Michelin, XZE Highway tread
Engine CAT 190hp - 275hp
Fuel Tank 60 gallon Between the Frame rails, 100 gallon (Optional)
Alternator 175 amp Leece/Neville, High-Output
Transmission Allison automatic PTS Series, Model 2500 standard w/ optional MD-3000 available (TranSynd fluid is standard)
Suspension Front - 14,600# parabolic springs (air Ride -optional); Rear - 19,000 leaf springs (21,000# & 23,000#, and air ride-optional)
Steering TAS 65
Axles Meritor, Front, 13,200#; Rear, 19,000# (21,000# & 23,000# - optional)
Brakes Meritor, "Quadraulic" hydraulic brakes with 4-wheel anti-lock brakes. Air brakes-optional.
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Interior Width 90"
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Wheel Cut 45°
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Quoted: In some High Schools around the country the Seniors drive the buses... At least that's the way it was in Charleston, SC during the 1980's

I know that it was in backwater Mississippi, but in 1987, at the age of 17, I was a licensed school bus driver.  I occasionally drove as a substitute, but the pay sucked.  I always drove for the high school band, because I was in the band and had to go anyway and got payed $50 for each away game (not to mention I ate free at McDonald's)  I also drove for the soccer team 'cause the girls were hot!

Trust me, anyone that can grasp the concept of "This vehicle makes wide turns!" can drive a school bus.

Drivig a school bus is easy.  The worst thing someone with no idea on how to operate a school bus would have to figure out is the air brake parking brake and the simple concept that air brakes don't really act like normal brakes.

Basically if you can handle safely driving down the free way I would say you could manage a school bus once you get a little time in a parking lot to learn about how it turns and what not.

I figure anyone smart enough to have a trailer for their vehicle that actually requires them to know what trailer brakes are and how they work and can safely operate a vehicle and a trailer equipped with trailer brakes, can handle an air braked school bus.

If someone gets a school bus that is not an automatic, anyone with a stick shift in their car will be able to drive it.  It may not be smooth, but it will move and get the job done.

As for how many people fit in a school bus, when hauling the foot ball team around it was generally 44 people since you had all the pads and other junk to go along with the foot ball player.  But when dealing with an emergency you could certainly stick 10 or more in the center isle and get over 50 people on the bus and on their way to where ever they were going.

Please note that even with some of the fat folks people are mentioning in threads, you can sit 2 per seat and you can make them sit down in the isle as well.  

More than likely even with fat people you could have had 2.5 people per seat with someone sort of perched on the seat and with their legs out in the isle so I have no problem thinking you could get  the normal 66 folks on the bus or more.

I didn't read this whole post, so, point it out if I missed something.  Anyway, my father is a school bus driver here in Phoenix as his post retirement fun job.  He told me that they require each driver to have each bus parked at the end of a shift with no less than half a tank of gas.

I don't know if anyone counted those buses in that picture.  I have to assume that the picture is of a post Huricane Kartina NO Bus Parking Lot.  That being said, there are greater than 250 buses in the picture that show up.  I counted them and shifted my number down 20 or so because my eyes were going crazy......  My dad tells me that you could fit 80 or so kids on a bus.

Now, looking at the math in a conservative fashion:
250 buses * 80 persons per = 20,000 people per trip.  Where to go, not sure.  I don't live there but I would venture a guess that if you get people two maybe three hours to the west of where the storm was going to land.  You might be able to accomplish maybe 3 trips a day average.
3 trips * 20,000 people = 60,000 people a day.  That would just about take care of all the people that were at the superdome easy.

Worse than that, I figure the 250 or so buses we see in the picture is a drop in the bucket to the number of buses that could have been rounded up.

However, Bush is always an easy target for other peoples ineptitude.  What do people not understand about a mandatory evacuation.

Last I heard this was the United States of America not the Federal States of America.  The states plan for disasters and then ask the federal government for help or am I wrong?

 Oh well........

Quoted: My theory. If the mayor actually used his brain.. he could have coordinated with mutiple agencies to transport people out of the city using the school buses, they had a whole 2/3 days to do it in. (Prior to the hurricane, of course)

They had 30+ years to do it

Yah know if you really thought about it, why not drive them about 10-15 miles west to the high ground and turn around and get the next batch.  Hell get them up where they are going to stay dry, then worry about moving them further but at least get them out of the flood waters, floating crap and chemicals.

Drive down the streets, floods are coming get on the bus and we'll get you to high ground.  Most people would rather have an uncomfortable 20 minute bus ride than 20 hours in a pool of shitty water.

That first bus to the Astrodome was driven by a 20year old kid, who had never driven one before.

Quoted: Yah know if you really thought about it, why not drive them about 10-15 miles west to the high ground and turn around and get the next batch.  Hell get them up where they are going to stay dry, then worry about moving them further but at least get them out of the flood waters, floating crap and chemicals. Drive down the streets, floods are coming get on the bus and we'll get you to high ground.  Most people would rather have an uncomfortable 20 minute bus ride than 20 hours in a pool of shitty water.

Because people thought they would be ok. If they really wanted to they could just walk, but they didn't.

Typical how the libtard can only raise questions yet offers no solution. Trollie what should have happened?

Quoted: Quoted: Yah know if you really thought about it, why not drive them about 10-15 miles west to the high ground and turn around and get the next batch.  Hell get them up where they are going to stay dry, then worry about moving them further but at least get them out of the flood waters, floating crap and chemicals. Drive down the streets, floods are coming get on the bus and we'll get you to high ground.  Most people would rather have an uncomfortable 20 minute bus ride than 20 hours in a pool of shitty water. Because people thought they would be ok. If they really wanted to they could just walk, but they didn't.

Oh yea…

That is why the Governor orders a MANDATORY evacuation BEFORE the storm… but then did NOTHING to execute the order.

Walk in a hurricane… yea good plan.

Reading your post is going to drive down the collective IQ.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yah know if you really thought about it, why not drive them about 10-15 miles west to the high ground and turn around and get the next batch.  Hell get them up where they are going to stay dry, then worry about moving them further but at least get them out of the flood waters, floating crap and chemicals. Drive down the streets, floods are coming get on the bus and we'll get you to high ground.  Most people would rather have an uncomfortable 20 minute bus ride than 20 hours in a pool of shitty water. Because people thought they would be ok. If they really wanted to they could just walk, but they didn't. Oh yea… That is why the Governor orders a MANDATORY evacuation BEFORE the storm… but then did NOTHING to execute the order. Walk in a hurricane… yea good plan. Reading your post is going to drive down the collective IQ.

I was assuming that the origainal poster that I quoted was talking about before the storm because he was saying dropping them off 15 miles away. Did you miss that little detail?

Quoted: You just don't know how to "Haitian Pack." 100 inside and 25 on the roof + a chicken.

Damn beat me too it
I have always called it 3rd world load out

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The plan was to give shelter to people at the Superdome and Convention Center.  When the levee's broke how long do you think they had to muster 200 drivers to drive 200 buses and load up 4000 (20ppl x 200 buses) before the buses were already flooded? Would it have made a difference if we're talking a 1 way trip? I'm not a genius or anything but what if, and I'm only saying, WHAT IF they actually brought the buses to the Superdome "just in case"? You know, like in case something went wrong. You could maybe have buses and drivers ready "just in case." You know, kinda like a prepared plan "just in case." Well, I agree with you there.  But, where do you "park" 200 buses in and around the Superdome?  That would have made getting out of town for people in personal vehicles impossible.

Umm, maybe the PARKING LOT?Good God Almighty, are you even thinking about what you're posting?

OK, this will kill this pathetic thread.......................reading is fundamental.

"During a long and impatient delay, children popped their heads out of bus windows and mothers clutched their babies."

Gotta clean up now, I feel like I just left DU

After seeing them on TV at the Super Dome, I don't think the refugees would actually drive themselves even if the buses were provided.  They want someone else to drive for them, pick them up, take care of them, give them a free house, give them a welfare check, give them everything they want.....afterall they are free-loading liberals.

Quoted: Quoted: You just don't know how to "Haitian Pack." 100 inside and 25 on the roof + a chicken. Damn beat me too it I have always called it 3rd world load out

Kinda like this

Driving a school bus is actually easier that driving a U-haul(better vision),plus the bus WILL be more reliable(get you where you want to go without breaking down twice).

Quoted: Some 17 year old kid manged to figure out how to drive one. It ain't like flying the space shuttle.

When I was younger then that I drove a full size school bus at a summer camp. Back then they were all stick shifts too. Once you get used to the air brakes it's no big deal.

Quoted: And the buses are all supposed to magically drive themselves and the evacuees out?

Repeat after me. Think, improvise, adapt and overcome to conquer adversity. WTF is wrong with you?

Seems we're also concentrating on getting ALL the people out.  How about just getting out a whole hell of a lot of people out?  If you REDUCE the amount of people trapped in NO, it would make the situation better for those stuck there, i.e. less supplies like food and water consumed or needed.  

GRANTED, if the only people that stayed were liberals, they'd be doomed trying to figure out how to sit in the seats without overcrowding the bus.

I feel my IQ dropping.

Quoted: I'm gonna go with "Bus Drivers" for $100 Alex.

Quoted: Quoted: Fucking A, you load that bus with 70 people, I can guaranfuckingtee you that you could find ONE, count it ONE person on that bus (a) can drive and (b) will drive. Did you pick your username or did your momma decide you earned it????????? People must think that busses have some way of defying physics. A bus cannot hold 70ppl. No way in hell, there is not enough room and the motor/chassis would probably fail. You average school bus is rated for 30+/- high schoolers, and trust me, you don't want anymore people them that for a 7 hour+ trip.

I guess you missed the report of a 17 year old driving a bush with 100 people in it.

That was one picture of one bus depot in the city. We know there were multiple depot's around the city. Also, nobody has even talked about the MTD busses that are everywhere in that city.
If they had used their own disaster plan, there were more than enough busses to get everyone out of town in ONE trip.

Even if they couldn't get but half out, they would have had hundreds of busses sitting outside of town waiting to go back in, not sitting underwater.


I suppose Schmeghead thinks Bush should have been driving the buses.
A proper evacuation plan would have included plans for recalling bus drivers.

And the buses are all supposed to magically drive themselves and the evacuees out?

School buses have automatic transmissions for years....duh if it is drive or die, baby I am the nascar of school buses

All this talk about School Buses. Who the hell is supposed to DRIVE them?

Answer: Anyone with a clue about vehicles.

Answer#2: Anyone with driving skills (which aren't taught anymore. You have to pick them up on your own.).

Answer#3: If it's the ONLY way out of town.........I'll bet you could figure it out pretty quick!

Quoted: Quoted: And do what?  Order those school bus drivers to ignore their own families needs to drive 100's of thousands of people out of the state back and forth?   You can't make anybody do anything in this country without pointing guns at their heads. You don't have to order them... leave them behind if they don't want to go. Thats why we have firefighters/cops etc.... hence the "agencies" part.

You would have enough folks in the fire department to drive those buses. Most everyone in the Fire Department is trained to drive the fire trucks and a fire truck and a school bus ain't much different.

Thank you FOX for proving as to why our school system is a failure...


Please do us a favor... don't go onto college.

Quoted: Quoted: Fucking A, you load that bus with 70 people, I can guaranfuckingtee you that you could find ONE, count it ONE person on that bus (a) can drive and (b) will drive. Did you pick your username or did your momma decide you earned it????????? People must think that busses have some way of defying physics. A bus cannot hold 70ppl. No way in hell, there is not enough room and the motor/chassis would probably fail. You average school bus is rated for 30+/- high schoolers, and trust me, you don't want anymore people them that for a 7 hour+ trip.

No Fox, these are big people busses, not the "short" buses you are apparently familliar with riding.  Big people buses carry that many people and they dont even have to wear helmets or drool buckets.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Fucking A, you load that bus with 70 people, I can guaranfuckingtee you that you could find ONE, count it ONE person on that bus (a) can drive and (b) will drive. Did you pick your username or did your momma decide you earned it????????? People must think that busses have some way of defying physics. A bus cannot hold 70ppl. No way in hell, there is not enough room and the motor/chassis would probably fail. You average school bus is rated for 30+/- high schoolers, and trust me, you don't want anymore people them that for a 7 hour+ trip. No Fox, these are big people busses, not the "short" buses you are apparently familliar with riding.  Big people buses carry that many people and they dont even have to wear helmets or drool buckets.

Let's stop bashing FOX-, he's a kid.

There are plenty of dumbasses in the NOLA and LA gooberment to bad mouth.

Quoted: People must think that busses have some way of defying physics. A bus cannot hold 70ppl. No way in hell, there is not enough room and the motor/chassis would probably fail.

You can't be serious. That's one of the funniest things I've ever read in a ARFCOM post.  

I can't believe some people are this stupid.  This has to be a joke. 300,000 people and you think none of them know how to drive a bus.