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The legal channels are nearly unusable, if you've actually checked into it. You're also confusing the drug runners and coyotes with the standard issue 'starving migrant', which are generally different things. |
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Bullshit. Stop defending criminals who are ruining the American way of life. You're only making yourself nearly as big an asshole as they are. Here's a question: Why don't these ranchers host the machine gun and artillery shoots on a regular basis? How many of those fuckers are going to invade the U.S. through somebody's ranch if there's millions of rounds of ammo and mortar/howitzer shells flying all over God's green earth? |
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They are all knowingly violating federal law when they sneek into the county. Continuing to violate federal law when they remain her or work here. The routinely violate state law driving without a license or insurance. I could go on about the above average rate of domestic violence, sexual assault, alcoholism, and drug abuses in illegal immigrant communities. But it would fall on deaf ears. |
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Judging by Ceramics idiotic pro-illegal alien posts from the past you guys are just waisting time explaining the obvious to him. He's even from AZ so surely he sees the reports of shootings, home invasions, kidnapping and even the shootings of police officers that these poor, hard working, honest , filthy illegal aliens are commiting weekly here. I know I know about it.
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I dont give two flyin farts for the poor ,poor helpless so-and -sos who struggle to get accross the desert to this wonderful basket of oportunity.
Nor do I care HOW many of my ancestors are from another country and immigrated here over the past few centuries........ THAT was THEN THIS is NOW!!! The country isnt the wide open,free land of golden oportunity it was in the 1800s....get a clue!! The numbers of worthless scumbags that drag their delapatated asses over our borders FAR-FAR out-weigh the #s of honest, legal immigrants that MIGHT be a benefit to our society. And a big might at that..... SHOOT EM?!? No......I dont aggree with that at all. At least not all of them I definately love to see the border mined to the hilt,though!! This country is SO going to hell in a handbasket. |
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Everytime we are down at the family ranch in Elfrida we spend at least a day cleaning up trash and repairing the damage done by the cockroaches,
The laws, the media and our president are against us. |
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Nailed it. |
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That is my point, yet apparently its nearly impossible to get that through to people. The real culprit here is the government which is not doing its job. There will always be groups whom will try to take what you have - thats normal natural order. The problem we have is that we have systems in place which REWARD those who act that way and PUNISH those whom do not agree. In spite of that, we sit around on the internet and talk about sniping people whom are utilizing desparate tactics to help their desparate situation and not talk about the REAL problem which is the corrupt government we now have. Believe me, if you're starving or nearly homeless you might act desparate too. I'm glad that the majority of you have obviously never been in that situation. Laws tend to become irrelevant to those who have a 'need'. Again, let me repeat myself - the socialist programs along with their and OUR corrupt governments facilitate this problem. You people are 'attacking' the wrong part of the problem. |
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Show me one post that is PRO illegal alien that I've posted. I'm arguing with people whom are spouting murder, not pro-strong border policies. |
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Amen. ....and they aren't talking MURDER. What I take offense to are these people on here in OTHER FUCKING STATES talking about "sniping" people or booby trapping their property, all the time while they sit in their fucking track home in Pennsylvania or New York. Its sickening. |
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Illegal Immigration is ILLEGAL
Not every immigrant is an illegal. It is not hard to go through the right chanels to get registered.. |
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I take it you've done it? I've experienced the pains of a number of co-workers whom were highly educated and fairly wealthy people attempting to do it. How about a poor Mexican? I doubt they have much chance at all. The legal immigration system needs serious overhaul while the crack down on illegal immigration needs severe strengthening. |
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If you shoot an undocumented worker (PC term for an Illegal) did you actually shoot anyone, because they really arent documented as being here?
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I like the idea of holding gunshoots on those ranches.
We ought to ask some of those ranchers if we can do arfcom shoots on those ranches... |
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Not if you use an undocumented bolt action rifle firing a very fragil undocumented varmit bullet. |
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I think the federal government should start passing out nuclear landmines to the border states.
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It's working and not even one shot has been fired. Please gentlemen lets not talk about shooting illegal aliens. I have looked into the eyes of of detained illegal aliens their full of fear and anguish. These people have gone thru hell and risked everything! |
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...and how many of these illegals are becomming members of street gangs. MS13 is bound to become a militant force in america. Gorilla warfare is comming soon. how long before the US starts looking like Somilia?
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Damn strait. The only co worker I like is a Mexican citizen. He is here legally. He spent 4 years in the USMC and was given the option to take US Citizenship. He hasn't, but he follows the immigration laws to the letter. He has to use his vacation days to travel to Nashville to deal with paperwork every year or so. And all these illegals give a bad name to the real hard working law abiding immigrants. |
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How long before our 2nd Amendment rights are completly squashed to disarm MS13. All you open border libertarians can stick that in your pipe and smoke it. |
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They can't disarm criminals, only the law abiding can be disarmed....or can we? |
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Hahah - who's at fault for taking away 2nd Amendment rights, MS13 or the "republican" and "democrat" leaders who use it as an excuse? |
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In this case open border policy liberal POS like you. These invaders need to stoped and if that means killing a few than that is tough shit. And that includes women and babies too. |
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People ACTUALLY fleeing countries with genocide can apply LEGALLY for entry in the US. That is immigration law. I myself do not support lining up rifle sights on a mother and her kids looking for a better life,but we cannot afford to let this chaos continue on our borders either. Either the federal government gets serious about stopping this invasion of illegal immigrants or a bunch of ELECTED officials might be out of a job next election. This is the political facts. |
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Wow, now I speechless. |
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I know that country down quite well. My friend worked US Customs as a Special Agent out of Nogales. We used to hunt quail down there. Really loved it. It has become a giant shit hole today. Really makes me angry.
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We have to realize that it is an invasion, if thousands of tons of grugs are crossing the border what about dirty bomb, grenades, RPG's,etc. The nation needs to wake up and stop the flood.
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I am not advocating killing women and children. All I am saying is that we need to come to terms with it. We are not the ones draging our women and children illegally into a country. They made the first move, they put themselfs at risk.But we need to cut off all aide at the border and put a bounty on illegals. I just needed to get the women and babies sacred cow out of the way, and you all should do the same in your minds. Because the coyotes, gangsters, and drug mules have no issues with killing you, your women or your children. |
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Gosh, if you read what I have written you'd realize that I'm not an OPEN BORDER LIBERAL POS. However, thank you for calling me a POS because you're too fucking stupid to read what I write. FUCK YOU. If people like you start killing women and babies, I'll be there to defend them you nationalist POS. Thank god the minutemen have been able to weed out racist fucks like you, or their whole movment would have collapsed. |
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I can't beleive you took a great article about conditions on the border and turned it into a discussion about murdering illegals. I thought you got banned from here just for using made up slang words for Mexicans. |
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Read my post above yours. I am adovocating maky the border as hostile as possible to any illegal immigrants and puting a bounty on there capture. And remove the restrictions that prevent citizens from detaining illegals by force. And some women and children may die in the process, but it is happening now too. If it's going to happen let's not use that sacred cow of kiling or injuring women, babies, and helpless workers as an excuse for stoping citizens from using force to detain illegals at the border. And I have read what you have written, to you every person who illegally crosses the border is just here looking for a job and a better life. And if we just let them come in all will be better. I like your style, you just stir up crap and call people racists. If you want to take this any further we can get a mod to put this in "The PIT". |
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That is not the way either my friend. That is somewhat true, not completely. |
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I've never said that every person who illegally crosses the border is just looking for a job and a better life either - I'm not sure what posts you are reading! You later corrected yourself in a second post, but your previous post essentially promoted the wholesale slaughter of women and children. There certainly seems to be no end of folks on here who m are more than willing to promote the idea of killing people, but I think its a wholly different then when you're pulling the trigger yourself. Yes, there are many drug runners, coyotes and flesh merchants that deserve nothing better than a bullet. However, of the MILLIONS crossing, thats a small number. The remainder certainly don't deserve death. If our socialist food, education and medical systems were fixed to be free market then their ability to 'parasite' off society would also be removed. It is my opinon that both sides are being played like a fiddle in this situation to someone else's benefit - and it isn't the American citizen or the Mexican immigrant profiteering from it, in fact BOTH are victims. |
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That article is a long read but it really hammers the problem home. Damn what a mess. I really am wondering if this country is going to last much longer. This PC bullshit is taking us down. Which I think is exactly what the ALCU and other MM type groups want. We either get a handle on this or kiss our country good by. Sorry for the pessimistic attitude, but what I read in that article is that our government could give a shit less.
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That is true, they don't care or even have a vested interest in maintaining this situation to their benefit (somehow). |
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Politicians are scared of loosing votes, not american lives taken by people illegally entering our country. Sad day in America |
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There must be a better way to solve this problem other than the reasons stated here... |
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I'll do my homework. |
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Just curious, has anyone read this article. Yup, our peace loving southern neighbors just tryin to get along.
washingtontimes.com/national/20050801-122047-2623r.htm |
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I bet dollars to donuts that coyotes arent moving thier 'cargo' through a certain ranch in Crawford TX.
Stories like this absolutely sicken me. Aye carumba ! America needs an enema. |
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+1 - Their lives have 0 value. |
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I recently heard that the Governor's of MN and AZ have declared a state of emergency and have deployed the Guard, but I don't know what their function is.
www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/12/newmexico/ phoenix.bizjournals.com/phoenix/stories/2005/08/15/daily11.html |
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Sheesh- will you guys PLEASE QUIT POSTING THE ENTIRE ARTICLE (AND THREAD) IN YOUR REPLIES?!?!?!??!?
We've already read this far, ya know. 1911fan |
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