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Posted: 6/20/2001 3:24:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/20/2001 3:23:57 AM EDT by FrankTheSpank]
[url]http://www.mcuzi.com/frankthespank/dumbokie.asx[/url]
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 3:30:29 AM EDT
You see this is the shit that fucks it up for all of us. Stupid dumb fucking okie rednecks and ghetto trash gangsters. We sit there and wonder why the government wants to ban our guns, we wonder how the people of America could want to take away our right. Right there boys and girls. That video is the reason why. I hope this piece of shit redneck wigger is everyones favorite blow up doll in prison.
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 4:19:22 AM EDT
[:O]
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 5:18:34 AM EDT
That's pretty rough. Poor bastard never saw it coming. Probably over nothing (normally is). Any details on exactly how/why was that videotaped anyway?
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 8:20:28 AM EDT
Hey Frank, do you have that in a differnt video format? Such as avi, rp, rm, mov, etc. My video players can't read that file.
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 8:22:40 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Rowgan: Hey Frank, do you have that in a differnt video format? Such as avi, rp, rm, mov, etc. My video players can't read that file.
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It's the Microsoft Windows Media Player format. Are you on a mac?
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 8:28:12 AM EDT
I'm using the Media Player... But it's still not working for me, either. What's in it?
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 8:29:21 AM EDT
I'm on windows using Media Player and Real Player and still no luck.
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 8:30:29 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 8:48:08 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Gloftoe: I couldn't play it directly (just clicking on it) either. I had to download it, and play it from my desktop. Weird. -Gloftoe
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Yeah, I had to do the same thing. I tried messing with it for about an hour this morning until I figured it out. Still can't view it directly. Anyways, guess the guy who got shot learned his lesson.....If unarmed, never approach an armed man on his own porch if he is pissed off at you. Guess they don't teach that one in Oklahoma. Michael
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 9:03:35 AM EDT
You need a relatively new version of media player. Download the upgrade at microsoft's site and you'll be good to go. Worth it as more and more are using .asx/.asf files.
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 9:44:49 AM EDT
Media Player is up to Version 7.01. Go to Start, Windows update and choose the media player update on the Microsoft Update website.
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 9:49:05 AM EDT
I use Media Player 6.4 which is the version that comes with Win2K. It played fine. I dont advise that people get Media Player 7, it's a piece of shit. Really bloated and very slow. Any guesses as to the caliber of the weapon used?
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 9:57:11 AM EDT
Originally Posted By w00dy: I use Media Player 6.4 which is the version that comes with Win2K. It played fine. I dont advise that people get Media Player 7, it's a piece of shit. Really bloated and very slow. Any guesses as to the caliber of the weapon used?
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looks & sounds like a 9MM
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 10:08:13 AM EDT
Yep.. sure sounds like it. The guy just drops.. lifts his arm really slowly.. the life is being drained from him. This video is very disturbing. This guy coulda just pointed the gun at him and I bet he would have high tailed it outta there. But he shoots him in cold blood. Piece of shit.
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 10:12:14 AM EDT
Damn! I have a strong stomach, but I must admit that video was extremely disturbing! I've seen lots of autopsy pictures/bodies and pictures of murder crimes in the past. Even moved dead bodies for awhile, but this nonchalant-shooting fashion and taking of a human life will carve a spot in my memory probably forever. Can't believe how many shots that guy let off. Not as bad as the slow beheading of the russian soldier, but this video is almost up there. Damn, and that guy was so casual about it. The victim probably never expect it. [b]-RoadDog[/b]
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 10:20:45 AM EDT
Anyways, guess the guy who got shot learned his lesson.....If unarmed, never approach an armed man on his own porch if he is pissed off at you. Guess they don't teach that one in Oklahoma. Michael[/quote] Blaming the victim? It's dark, and the circumstance leading to the shooting was not presented. It's also not clear to me that the shootee knew what's coming or that he poses a threat to the shooter. I don't think that there is a jury out there (OK, may be except for the Simpson jury) that will acquit this guy based on the video. This is the sorta $hit that one day will lead to our losing our arms.
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 10:52:37 AM EDT
Can anyone make out what they are saying? I think that a transcript would add quite a bit of detail to the video.. Looks like murder to me mind you...sick puppies!
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 10:58:13 AM EDT
Originally Posted By PbRx: This is the sorta $hit that one day will lead to our losing our arms.
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Ok, I'll kick it up a notch. People like YOU, my friend, DESERVE to lose their arms. Your guns are being taken away from you because they constitute a threat to people in positions of power. Politicians are afraid of an armed man. Period. Not because of some legendary stupid gun owner who's going to "fuck it up" for the rest of us. If the Lord himself were a gun owner they'd figure out a way to demonize him. And furthermore, speak for yourself. No one will ever take my guns so long as I live. If you can't say the same, well then, I'd have to agree, you're not going to have them very much longer. If you are like FrankTS and you "sit there wondering" why the government wants to take your guns, if you think that some nonsensical internet video is the excuse they need, you DO NOT GET IT AT ALL. WAKE UP. You are a threat to national security, and the founding fathers wanted it that way.
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 11:04:02 AM EDT
One less Redneck living on Welfare!
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 11:08:51 AM EDT
Originally Posted By maelcum: Ok, I'll kick it up a notch.
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[SIZE=6][B]BAM!![/B][/SIZE=6]
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 11:13:49 AM EDT
Uh yeah... I sure was talking about THE FUCKING VIDEO ITSELF of why our guns are being taken away! Hello?!?! I said when some shitheel in power thinks of guns. He/she thinks of NRA members. what does he/she see? Some redneck gangster wannabe shooting an unarmed person in cold blood. She/he doesn't see you assholes at the range with your daughters, having fun putting holes in paper. He/she sees a dumbass goin "I need my guns to blast any fool who trespasses! It says I can shoot 'em so I done gone and shoot 'em, wuzzup now Homey!?" And the people in power do it in favor of the people. And sorry to say, people are stupid. 80% of the people have never fired a gun. So that video is the idea they have of guns, and gun owners. Numbers like that win an election. Instead of speculation, instead of harsh words, news reports, hear say, we see an actual live video of it happening. I bet this video is played at all the soccer matches for the mothers.
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 11:15:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/20/2001 11:25:29 AM EDT by 1GUNRUNNER]
Don't any of you wonder why there is a camera in the corner of the porch? No blood.... It's a staged fake for Consumption Junction.
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 11:21:05 AM EDT
The way he shot that guy so calmly in front of the camera makes believe this was an on going thing between the 2 of them. The shooter more then likely setup the camera & baited the guy onto his porch, that way the film can be used as evidence in court that this guy maybe?? feared for his life?? It still all boils down to a chicken shit shooter.
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 11:21:21 AM EDT
Video: Maybe this shit head was having this guy come over all the time starting shit. So he setup a camera so he could show a court that he was trespassing when he killed him. Blood: It's dark, bad quality video, and when you shoot someone blood doesn't fly everywhere like on the movies.
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 11:21:24 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 1GUNRUNNER: Doesn't any of you wonder why there is a camera in the corner of the porch? No blood.... It's a staged fake for Consumption Junction.
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Yeah, I was wondering about the blood but if it's something small like a 9mm or .22 there might not be a exit wound. I don't know, just a thought.
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 11:27:13 AM EDT
Stuff like this is just a springboard for the anti's. Their only goal is total civilian disarmament. If we are unarmed, we will have no means to resist them and their socialistic agenda. They use stuff like this in their media to control the minds of the masses. The more the sheeple see stuff like this, the more willing they will be to agree with the anti's. If they agree, they will vote to put people in power who will carry out their agenda, just as the Nazi party was elected into power. It's as simple as that. Live free or die, and don't forget to save the last round for yourself. You don't want to end up like that young Russian soldier.
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 11:31:21 AM EDT
Originally Posted By NYshooter: The way he shot that guy so calmly in front of the camera makes believe this was an on going thing between the 2 of them. The shooter more then likely setup the camera & baited the guy onto his porch, that way the film can be used as evidence in court that this guy maybe?? feared for his life?? It still all boils down to a chicken shit shooter.
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If it was self defense he wouldn't be standing over him taunting him after he shot him. "I'll kill ya, I'll kill ya"
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 11:37:00 AM EDT
Originally Posted By FrankTheSpank: Blood: It's dark, bad quality video, and when you shoot someone blood doesn't fly everywhere like on the movies.
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If there is an exit wound as there should be at that distance, blood will pool.
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 11:40:27 AM EDT
Who knows what he was shooting. 9mm holowpoints that expanded and never exited. Who knows... I just wouldn't be so quick to rule a fake. We read about this shit in the news all the time, doesn't suprise me that it actually made it on video.
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 11:50:07 AM EDT
Originally Posted By 1GUNRUNNER:
Originally Posted By NYshooter: The way he shot that guy so calmly in front of the camera makes believe this was an on going thing between the 2 of them. The shooter more then likely setup the camera & baited the guy onto his porch, that way the film can be used as evidence in court that this guy maybe?? feared for his life?? It still all boils down to a chicken shit shooter.
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If it was self defense he wouldn't be standing over him taunting him after he shot him. "I'll kill ya, I'll kill ya"
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reread my post where I stated he might have baited the guy to come onto the porch. And self defense doesn't mean that after shooting someone you won't be so hyped up the you start talking shit. Adrenalin makes people do so crazy stuff
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 12:48:16 PM EDT
I sure hope they weren't fighting over the cow in the video. If so they both deserve to be shot.
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 2:29:12 PM EDT
Note to self - Stay off of NYshooter's porch.
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 2:49:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By FrankTheSpank: You see this is the shit that fucks it up for all of us. Stupid dumb fucking okie rednecks and ghetto trash gangsters. We sit there and wonder why the government wants to ban our guns, we wonder how the people of America could want to take away our right. Right there boys and girls. That video is the reason why. I hope this piece of shit redneck wigger is everyones favorite blow up doll in prison.
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Maybe the guy asked for it. The good news is it took two hillbillies out of circulation.
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 3:45:12 PM EDT
Who cares if he asked for it. The guy with the gun was not in danger. He had no fear for his life. The guy he shot was not armed. He shot him in cold blood. Only time you take a life is if your life is in danger. That guys life was not in danger.
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 4:08:22 PM EDT
Have you guys ever fired a 9mm? The biggest complaint is that it OVER penatrates not under because of the high velocity. If he was shooting some high quality hydroshocks or other hollow point they might not have come out but 9mm can go through most anything. The fear of the 9mm is that it will go through the body, the wall, another wall, and into you neighbors house.
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 4:20:00 PM EDT
Just about every retard knows what a Hydrashok is. "oooh yeaahhhhh.. them Hydro Shocks! Yeah them Navy Seals use those!! awwww yeah!!" I bet that is what he had. And from the first shot that guy just drops. I'm willing to bet he was pumped full of led and kept the prize.
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 4:33:39 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 4:40:19 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Stormbringer: Can anyone make out what they are saying?
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From what I heard, it sounded like this: "Hey McUZI, I'm gonna shoot your ass for impregnating my Crack 'Ho Daughter !" Bang - Bang - Bang -Bang.
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 9:04:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Stormbringer: Can anyone make out what they are saying?
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On a serious note, I watched this vid over a dozen times, both full-screen and normal "player" size, and I heard the following in the VERY beginning: Guy walks up stairs (advancing on guy w/ gun) and say what sounds like "You and me boy, I don't give a..." Interrupted by gunshots (4 I believe, in rapid succession). First round looks like it hits target in upper abdomen. Other shots hard to determine but appear to strike lower on the body. Weapon looks like a large semiautomatic [4"+ barrel(Beretta?)] and sounds like a 9mm. shooter says "You had enough (boy?), you want some more" Later on, shooter says "I told you (boy?), but you wouldn't listen." Also make referrence to target "jumping" (up or on) him. This seems to indicate that the "victim" here may have tried to attack the man with the gun when he fired. Also, there appears to be some past history with the two men, as the shooter indicates (though this is uncertain, for shooter may have said this to cover his A$#).
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 9:21:38 PM EDT
My question to you all is this: Situation: (as in the video) 1.You have a gun and a flashlight. Perhaps you heard something outside, of course this is NOT clear in the video, but let's assume that he acted in a reasonable manner by arming himself (as I hear many of you on the board do if investigating/responding to a possible hostile encounter) 2.This man has attacked you before (unclear if this is the case, but for sake of arguement, assume that he has). 3.You have been concerned enough about your saftey to put money into a security camera system, because of this or otherwise (unclear about WHEN the camera was purchased. 4.The man advances on you, uncaring about the fact that you are armed (it is unclear whether target knew that the shooter had a gun) 5.Your family members are in the immediate vicinity (as it appears in the video) 6.You fear that your own weapon may be compromized during a physical struggle, and that your own firearm may be used to threaten not only your life, but the lives of your family members nearby as well. I know that there are several ptions that would have produced a different outcome (stay inside and call police, use flashlight as a blunt instrument, etc.), but I do not know if you can condemn a man for firing upon someone who is advancing upon you. Yes, the other fellow is unarmed, but put yourself in his shoes. Once you have a firearm with you, you have limited yourself in a way, for now you may have to employ that weapon instead of less-lethal techniques due to the danger of a probable weapon grab attempt. The truth is that we don't have ALL the facts, so I think we should give the shooter the benefit of the doubt (you are all welcome to your opions on his actions, were they right, wrong, etc). I detect that the only reason that some members are attacking the shooter is that he sounds like he is from the South. Do Southerners have LESS of a right to protect themselves? I don't mean to be P.C., I just want to point out that stereotypes often blind us from seeing what is really there. Urban (BTW, crack ho' joke was pretty funny) [}:)] Urban [pissed] [pistol]
Link Posted: 6/20/2001 11:12:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/20/2001 11:11:46 PM EDT by Ernie]
I say its a well staged fake untill someone can colaborate it with some kind of news link or public record.
Link Posted: 6/21/2001 4:31:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/21/2001 4:30:53 AM EDT by Cleatus]
I saw this on "worst of the worst" video, not sure of the whole story, but the guy he shot was supposedly bugging him or something-They both were redneck fucks. The shooter got life in the jug. He was basically saying "y all aint gonna mess wit me no more" The lady was running back and forth saying fuck fuck fuck. As far as the camera-it supposedly was a Surveliance fideo for the house/apartment. The dude kicked it a short time later.
Link Posted: 6/21/2001 5:03:10 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Troy:
Originally Posted By GeoffM24: Have you guys ever fired a 9mm? The biggest complaint is that it OVER penatrates not under because of the high velocity.
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Right, which is a complaint about most FMJ rounds. JHP bullets are widely available and widely used. -Troy
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I agree, and I use them. I was replying to those who said he probably used 9mm rounds that didn't even go through as if that was a bad thing.
Link Posted: 6/21/2001 9:18:33 AM EDT
So I take it the guy that got shot actually died.. He lays there and his arm is still up reaching out at the end of the video..
Link Posted: 6/21/2001 9:53:50 AM EDT
For some reason I cant view this. Can someone E-mail it to me at francisangels@earthlink.net Thanks RLTW
Link Posted: 6/21/2001 10:08:22 AM EDT
Right click on the link and select "Save target As" and download it.
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