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Posted: 10/21/2004 7:56:34 AM EDT
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Really? So he is going to recind his fathers import ban? Maybe put some weight behind one of Ron Pauls Second Amendment Protection bills after the election? Or, like his father, will he cave on the issue and sign one of Kennedy's bills? So far, his WORDS are putting him in the Kennedy/Feinstein camp on this one. Oddly, that is also one of the things I like about Pres. Bush. He says what he means and does what he says he will do. That is why I have such a problem with him pandering on this issue. This is my litmus test, my line in the sand, for canidates. 
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Posted: 10/21/2004 7:57:42 AM EDT
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If you knew what the heck you were talking about, you'd know that Congress has to rescind the import ban. |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 7:57:44 AM EDT
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Maybe you can acknowledge the fact that when a local entity accepts funds from a bigger entity the smaller entity will have hoops to jump through at some point? |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 8:01:05 AM EDT
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Ron Paul. Never actually accomplishes anything. He just likes to talk. He's like a mirror image of Wellstone. What's he done? Name an accomplishment. "Not voting for anything that he considers UnConstitutional" doesn't count. I can claim that, too. |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 8:02:01 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/21/2004 8:04:36 AM EDT
[#6]
An Executive Order only requires and Executive Order to recind.
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Posted: 10/21/2004 8:04:51 AM EDT
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I agree and you will likely see some changes down south after the President is re-elected. Making a move now in that direction would cost him the election. The legal Mexicans here would vote him out. (I'm sure some illegals will be casting their ballots this year too ) 
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Posted: 10/21/2004 8:05:48 AM EDT
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Maybe you can acknowledge that no where in the Constitution does it give the FedGov the power to hand out said cash in the first place. Period. Get a Constitutional Amendment and it'd be perfectly legal. How fucking hard is that to understand?
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Posted: 10/21/2004 8:06:47 AM EDT
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Y'all have fun. Gotta get back to work.
Some of you should really re-read the Constitution. You seem to have forgotten what it says... Peace...
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Posted: 10/21/2004 8:09:04 AM EDT
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That something is NOT in the Constitution, does NOT make it UnConstitutional. To be UnConstitutional, it has to violate the Constitution NOT just not be there. How fucking hard is THAT to understand? |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 8:09:24 AM EDT
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Trying to work WITH liberals.
You can't do it. It's like working WITH the flies at a picnic....you may think you're being nice, but they're still gonna F*** up your picnic. Roy d says "swat 'em, spray 'em or crush 'em...but they gotta go!" |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 8:10:08 AM EDT
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Back up a minute here, was the federal government giving funds to the local school districts before Bush was elected?? Yes or no??? I'll help you here, of course it was, Bush coudn't do anything about that, it would be like trying to stop a leaking dam by sticking your fingers in it, aint gonnna happen. Could you imagine if Bush said he was going to cut all educational funding? Come on now. So he decided to hold the local schools accountable, what part of that do you have a problem with? |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 8:20:38 AM EDT
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1) More time in Afghanistan before Iraq, more boots on the ground. Less reliance on Afghan fighters. More "encircelement type operations 2) FAILED, that why the looting went on. 20 somethings were hire to run the rebuilding. They have never had any jobs in the past remotley resembling managing the projects they are now assigned. That's why only portion of the rebuilding funds have been used. 3) INCORRECT, N Korea had treaties banning further building, and abandoned those in 2001-2002 when the Bush Administration refused to have direct meetings with N Korean reps. Iran has only been trying to build nukes for 1.5-2.0 years. 4) Tough, he relied on faulty intelligence to make the case for war, and ignored obvious flaws in it. I've made the case for war w/o mentioning WMD's on this site, others said it was convincing. Surely he could've done as good a job as I did. He made the choice to claim "WMD" and exclude other reasons, WMD's weren't there, he owns that choice. 5) If you want to spend more, you have to tax more, if you want to cut taxes, you must cut an equal amount of spending. Tax cuts are nice, unless the deficit goes up monumentally, it did. That is bad for the country. 6)  Did Ronald Reagan need a committe to tell him how to win the Cold War? He was an inspired leader. JFK was, Teddy Roosevelt was, GWB IS NOT. 7) It has to do with access to the President, and communicating with the people he works for US. |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 8:35:40 AM EDT
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That you don't think so, and make the same suggestions I hear from Kerry, speaks volumes.
The mission is not to prevent looting, it's to eliminate the region's biggest power.
"N Korea had treaties banning further building..."  You have a copy of Kerry's talking points? That you think that these countries have ONLY been trying to build nukes under Bush's watch shows a true ignorance of recent history. Pay attention. They've been at it since the 90's.
Just like you, they seize upon what can be viewed as wrong, ignoring all else.
Taxes were cut, revenues went up.
Trying to claim that all of Bush's decisions are by committee, and trying to claim that Reagan's were all "inspired" is nonsense.
Whining. Petty whining. |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 9:15:23 AM EDT
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President George HW Bush's EO was signed into law later. |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 9:15:59 AM EDT
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Well. I've forgotten more about it than you'll ever know, that much is true... |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 9:19:46 AM EDT
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Maybe some of us evil socialist commies just don't like him.
I would like to know why our troops are still dying in Iraq. Saddam is gone....thats what we wanted. It's not worth the lives of American servicemembers to babysit the Iraqis |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 9:22:49 AM EDT
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Wrong on all counts. Contrary to the liberal propoganda. we did NOT pull troops or intel assets from Afghanistan to go into Iraq. Also, your assessment of what should have been done shows an abject ignorance of the terrain, politics and social arrangements in Afghanistan. The best way to have done a repeat of the Soviet experience in Afghanistan would have been to put a couple divisions in there and fought it like a conventional war. Encirclement wouldn't work either because of the terrain. You need to read up a bit on the subject before making those sorts of statements.
Wrong. It didn't go as planned, but nothing ever does. No battle plan survives contact with the enemy. In this case. latitude was given to commanders on the ground and the invasion took much less time than anticipated, which is why there wasn't as much preparation as they wanted.
Utter bullshit. N Korea was violating those agreements from day one. Iran has been trying to build nukes for years. You should stop getting your "data" from DU.
Yes, the ultimate responsibility is his, but you deeming it a fatal and easily aviodable error is idiotic and ludicrous.
No, not really. It CAN be bad, if allowed to go for too long, but these things even out over time.
Sorry, but that's simply bullshit. President Bush didn't NEED any comittees to tell him how to lead...he's shown that he's a born leader and more the fool you if you don't understand that.
He works for US, NOT for the media. He talks to US, not to the media. The media are NOT our "representatives" and he has not obligation to talk to them. |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 9:27:39 AM EDT
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I liked the funny answers better
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Posted: 10/21/2004 9:35:35 AM EDT
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No, we know what the Constitution says... On any given day, the U.S. Constitution, for all real-world intents and purposes, says just exactly what 9 PRESIDENTIAL APPOINTEES decide it says. If that alone isn't enough reason to elect a Republican over a Democrat for President each and every time, I'll eat my red-white-and-blue Constitution necktie...
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Posted: 10/21/2004 9:41:05 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/21/2004 10:04:14 AM EDT
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i hear this "close the borders!!!!!1111111" all the time from people who claim to be "real conservatives" but i liken it to democrat complaints about stuff that they themselves have no solution for? please tell, how exactly is President Bush supposed to "close the fucking borders1!!!!!"?
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Posted: 10/21/2004 10:06:31 AM EDT
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Increase the Budget for the Border Patrol by a Billion. ... (No, can't increase spending, "conservatives" will get mad)
Use the military.... (No, "posse comatose", Waco, yelling and screaming) |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 10:09:12 AM EDT
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IT'S HIS FAULT THE PORN INDUSTRY IS OUTSOURCING JOBS TO BRAZIL!
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Posted: 10/21/2004 10:10:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/21/2004 10:21:47 AM EDT
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Being the first administration is some 60 years to affirm the second ammendment as an individual right is... Hoppy  8420
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Posted: 10/21/2004 10:32:41 AM EDT
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I like & respect you -Absolut-, but I suggest you tread lightly when you imply that "real conservatives" must place GWB above criticism. I voted for Bush in 2000, and I'm pulling the lever for him this go round, but the man has faults (from a conservative perspective), and to suggest otherwise is simply naive. As for pragmatic ways to close the border & curtail illegal immigration, I can think of a few.... enforce the laws that we already have in place (i.e. round up & deport all illegals ASAP), stop treating new interlopers with kid gloves (aid stations, medical care, food & lodging, legal appeals, etc.)... simply catch them, place them in internment camps, and ship them back within a couple of days, change the law so that the children of illegals who are born on U.S. soil are not automatically citizens, acknowledge that if you are here illegaly, you don't have a right to tax payer funded health care, food stamps, a free education, etc., start building an Israeli style security wall along our southern border, and man it with a combination of newly hired border patrol agents & National Guard troops. -Absolut-, there are real & effective ways to seal up our southern border, that's not the problem. The problem is that neither party has the political will to implement them. |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 10:34:35 AM EDT
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I'm not enthusiastic about the growth of domestic spending. It has grown much faster than defense spending. He should have vetoed some pork.
His rhetoric has been too activist on the domesitic front for my taste, but he has been mostly talk and he has fortunatley taken almost no action with his "compassionate" BS. The Iraq thing was risky. I doubt the costs will be worth the benefits, but it is too early to tell as of yet. It still might turn out OK. One intangible benefit might be that the neocons will be disuaded from any further adventures. I disagree with his policy, or lack thereof, on controlling the borders. Other than that, he has been a damned fine President. |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 10:38:50 AM EDT
[#29]
I agree wholeheartedly with you. All that has to be done is give the authority BACK to local LE to enforce immigration law, set aside an old army base as an immigrant detention center, and go to work. We wouldn't have to "round up" the illegals, we could just seize them as we come across them in the normal course of the day. Also, we need to crack down real hard on those that employ the illegals, up to imprisonment. We could solve this problem in far less than a decade if we had the political stomache for it. |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 11:33:16 AM EDT
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Rumors have it that if GW gets elected to a 2nd term, he will try to dismantle the IRS and get rid of income taxes. Not sure how this would all pan out, but for one thing- it would be a form of government buracracy erradicated.
Well, it is wishful thinking to say the least. What would also be nice is if he did get elected 2nd term and just went nuts in dismantling the fed. government. |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 11:38:50 AM EDT
[#31]
"Rumors have it", huh?
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Posted: 10/21/2004 11:54:59 AM EDT
[#32]
Yes, he has expressed learning more about a flat sales tax and eliminating the IRS. |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 11:59:10 AM EDT
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Rikwriter said,
"Wrong on all counts. Contrary to the liberal propoganda. we did NOT pull troops or intel assets from Afghanistan to go into Iraq. " This is incorrect. My best friend from grade school was one of the MANY SF who'd been in-country since the beginning, spoke the language, knew the people, had contacts who he'd painstakingly built a relationship with, and was pulled out to go work in Iraq, before the invasion even took place. He was extremely pissed about it. |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 12:05:47 PM EDT
[#34]
George Will recently articulated his pipe dream that W will be more conservative in his second term here.
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Posted: 10/21/2004 12:08:58 PM EDT
[#35]
No. He was asked about a sales tax, by a woman at a campaign stop. He politely said He'd look into it. Hardly a plan to eliminate the IRS. |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 12:11:24 PM EDT
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The mission was accomplished. |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 12:28:31 PM EDT
[#37]
When did expressing interest to learn more and having a plan mean the same thing??? |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 12:30:16 PM EDT
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Context. |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 12:48:17 PM EDT
[#39]
yeah, right! Bwahhahhahh! He should stick to invading countries for no reason whatsoever, wasting money and increasing the deficit, outsourcing jobs, and building the biggest government we've ever seen. At least he's got some experience there! |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 12:48:57 PM EDT
[#40]
YOU again?
Read your own post aloud. Do you realize how obnoxious you sound? Can't you try to be a polite troll? |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 12:54:24 PM EDT
[#41]
Yep you're right! That's why I'm voting for Kerry. He'll fix Iraq (which he voted for in favor of attacking), pay off the deficit, bring all the jobs back to the US and reduce the gov't to just a handful of people to answer phones. Kerry is our man! I blame Bush for everything that's gone wrong in the past two decades...it's time to straighten out his mess! 
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Posted: 10/21/2004 1:23:30 PM EDT
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Except Reagan. |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 1:26:18 PM EDT
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But the AWB is dead now, isn't it. Had W wanted it to land on his desk, it would have. Given that the polls on the AWB has consistently shown majority support, soft peddeling it seems to be the correct answer. |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 1:27:11 PM EDT
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Condoms for the Congo
Rx drug welfare for seniors Proposed amnesty for illegals Lied about the AWB Lied about reasons for invading Iraq |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 1:28:03 PM EDT
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And the federal govenrment is no longer trying to litigate the gun industry out of buisness. |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 1:31:45 PM EDT
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The N. K. nuke program resulted from the missteps of both the Carter and Clinton administrations. |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 1:34:21 PM EDT
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The 89 import ban is an executive order, not law. Can a sitting president recind a former presidents EO's? Or does it take an act of congress? repealing the ENTIRE GCA68 would take an act of congress for sure. |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 1:34:34 PM EDT
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The fundamental cause of the federal deficit was the Clinton recession. The path out of the recession is an improved economy, something the tax cuts will help provide. |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 1:38:09 PM EDT
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Except his action was to let the ban expire. Coming out against the ban would have been a political mistake. Right now he seems to have a very small lead. Coming out against popular legislation like the AWB would erode that lead somewhat, tipping the scale just a little bit in Kerry's favor. |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 1:39:11 PM EDT
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Order the INS to detain and deport every illegal immigrant they find, rather than the current system of catch & release. assign an INS rep to every county jail in border states. That reps job is to determine the immigration status of every inmate, and deport the illegals. Conduct National Guard and mitary Reserve "training" on the bordr, with live ammo. Shoot border jumpers as the foriegn invaders they are. |
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