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Posted: 10/13/2004 4:52:46 PM EDT
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Amen brother. If crack was illegal in the state this happened in, that poor young man would probably be a clean, sober, upstanding citizen. By the way, what state is that where crack is legal? |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 4:55:28 PM EDT
[#2]
Reading comprehension problems? |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 4:59:22 PM EDT
[#3]
what a piece of shit.... would have received a double tap....
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Posted: 10/13/2004 5:00:31 PM EDT
[#4]
+1 "dead as fried chicken" |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 5:02:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/13/2004 5:04:29 PM EDT
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no, just failed to mention that there is absolutely no way to make that decision, that the driver would not be harmed. He was acting in such a way that he needed to be stopped immediately ... chill out ..... I was really just trying to be comical ... |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 5:06:19 PM EDT
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Have you guys never seen somebody destroyed by a drug like heroin or crack? I see you are from Iowa do you think meth should be legal? Do you really think that by making crack legal that stuff like this would not happen more? This drug will rot your fucking brain. Crack did not make this man smash the car, but show me one habitual crack user who is not fucked up, I have never seen one. If you smoke crack your life goes down the tubes period. I am for the legalization of marijuana, but hard drugs like meth, heroin, crack/cocaine, and LSD should be illegal. Users of these drugs do not just stay in their homes and get high they spill out onto the streets and do shit like this. |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 5:06:37 PM EDT
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I would probably try to run him into the car infront or behind first. because i would rather see him live the rest of his shit life with no legs than kill him. but if that didnt work....yeah 2 in the chest.
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Posted: 10/13/2004 5:12:13 PM EDT
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Tagged!
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Posted: 10/13/2004 5:14:27 PM EDT
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Do I risk being banned by saying "that would be one dead nigger"? or do I take the subtle approach and throw down a few quotes from Chris Rock...
And you know the world is going crazy when a guy can destroy another man's car in broad daylight, in traffic, in front of dozens of people, and not get his head busted open like a fucking coconut. Sorry, but that shit would not fly with me. Crack is a wonderful thing, isn't it... It's like a get-out-of-jail-free card for acting like a complete animal. "It wasn't his fault he destroyed that man's car... he was on the crack." is what his family would be crying to the news cameras after he was killed for being a fucking idiot.  This thread seems to have touched a nerve with me... go figure.  I'm just glad the man keeps feeding them, housing them, and "educating" them with the shirt off my back. 
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Posted: 10/13/2004 5:22:47 PM EDT
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nobody needs guns to protect themselves, the police will do it for them
I SAID "THE POLICE WILL PROTECT YOU" *crickets* hello? police? maybe they won't
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Posted: 10/13/2004 5:34:25 PM EDT
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Well, i know I'm going to start a big stink, buy here it is.
In Texas, (I don't know about Nevada) you would not have justification in killing him. Damage to a vehicle is not justifiable homocide. The lady could have just driven off and called the police and filed charges. But if one of us were in the car behind her, and jumped out and shot him DRT, the burden is on you to prove that you were in fear of your life and had to stop him by shooting him. That's hard to do if you are in a 3,000 pound vehicle and can drive off. Sorry. I'd like the law to allow us to give him what he deserves, but that ain't the way it is. If you carry, you need to know the law and know how to stay out of jail. Killing him and then getting to share a cell with Big Bubba won't prove anything. |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 5:36:26 PM EDT
[#13]
That guy needs to die!
I feel so bad for the person in that car.... can you imagine her drive home? all because of some stupid FUCKIN CRACKHEADS! |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 5:39:23 PM EDT
[#14]
Vote Kerry/Edwards!!!!!
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Posted: 10/13/2004 5:44:06 PM EDT
[#15]
here in UT you can also use lethal force in fear of someone elses life. the second he smashed the passengers window thats it. the law here actually states that you can use deadly force to stop an aggravated felony |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 5:44:35 PM EDT
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No, but were you to get out of the car to stop him from damaging your vehicle, and he came towards you with that crowbar, I'd imagine that would qualify as "in fear of grevious bodily harm or death". +1 to he needs to be removed from the gene pool. |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 5:49:53 PM EDT
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Painless,
I think you are wrong. Once he came around with his club, he pretty much signs his death warrant. It is not your responsibility to run from an attack. It is the responsibility of others not to attack you. Likewise, if you see a woman under attack in her car in that matter, you can just shoot his ass. Other than Austin, I can't imagine any place in Texas where you would have any concern with indictment. Additionally, that video would show that the shootee was a dangerous person looking for someone to shoot him as a public service. |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 6:05:45 PM EDT
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I think that as soon as he came around to the driver side window THAT would constitute "immediate danger" because he might break the window and then your face. At THAT moment is when one would have JUSTIFICATION to shoot, me thinks. Shooting him while not being in IMMEDIATE danger would be dicey to defend in court, no?
It sucks, but that's the way it is in today's world. Hey, what do you think would have happened if the driver was an OFF-DUTY COP??? |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 6:11:06 PM EDT
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Aside from running him over, would say pulling a helter skelter on the bumb sonofabitch be defensible in court?
We truly live in a sad time, and a society full of sheeple, when someone can run out in the middle of traffic and destroy someone else's property. He deserves to be put out of societies misery and whomever is holdign hte camer should be hung from a streetlight. |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 6:13:25 PM EDT
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He has hit your property once, twice, X number of times and shows no signs of stopping, he moves to the drivers side of the vehicle....=Dead as soon as I decide how. Hell that lady could have simply run his ass over and gotten away with it on "fight or flight". Her hesitating could have easily cost her her life. |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 6:25:45 PM EDT
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That poor man. Can you imagine having to suffer 10 years on the same corner? Pimpin aint easy. Sometimes you gotta let the
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Posted: 10/13/2004 6:31:42 PM EDT
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Both Meth and Crack will rot your brain. Both Meth and Crack are already highly illegal. Neither one of these facts seems to make much of a difference to scumbags like the one featured in this video. If a person is hellbent on destroying themselves with drugs or alcohol, they will do it. They do it regardless of the legality or illegality of the drug. If Meth and Crack were legalized, would you smoke it? I sure as hell wouldn't. I'm pretty sure that anybody that is willing to destroy themselves in this manner is already doing it. |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 6:32:11 PM EDT
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I would have done the Texas thing emptied my .45 into to him and reloaded and emytied it agin
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Posted: 10/13/2004 6:37:55 PM EDT
[#24]
+1 |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 6:38:32 PM EDT
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Well, the video's certainly clear enough that the local cops should have NO problem whatsoever figuring out whodunnit. They probably know this shitbag very well anyway.
Mr. Crackhead, Do that shit to my car and you're a dead man. If I don't have a gun with me, don't worry. I've got edged weapons. Big, sharp ones. I'll pull a "terrorist" on your neck. Cut your head off, that is. Or I'll just run you over, back up for seconds, put the drive wheel on your skull, lock up the brakes, and do a big smoky burnout on your skull. Or what the heck....beat you to death with a newspaper vending machine, or a rock, or whatever's handy. I sure wouldn't let you get away unless it was in the back of the coroner's meat wagon. Really, that crackhead needs to die by any available means. CJ |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 6:39:55 PM EDT
[#26]
Why the hell did he do that?! To show how badass he is?!
150 lb crackhead vs. 2,000 lb car....the odds are not in his favor. I would have gunned that shit right into his measly little body. |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 6:41:09 PM EDT
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something very similar happened to me late at night in a bad part of atlana at a red light. a bum wandered up to my car asking for money. when i refused he became irate and started pounding on my window. thats where he was viewed from behind night sights. he very quickly got the message and scurried back up under the over-pass. call it brandishing if you like, but it got the job done.
btw that vide pisses me off! 
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Posted: 10/13/2004 6:42:29 PM EDT
[#28]
Crackhead + CCW Holder = Societal Solution
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Posted: 10/13/2004 6:44:19 PM EDT
[#29]
+1,000 |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 6:51:55 PM EDT
[#30]
For everyone here that claims they aren't at risk, because they "live in a good neighborhood" and "don't association with bad element", watch this video. Crime can be VERY random.
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Posted: 10/13/2004 6:53:28 PM EDT
[#31]
In Texas you can plug him if you're reasonably sure he's going to hurt someone else. Attacking a car with a crowbar and threatening the passenger would qualify in my book. I'd have dropped him. Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas... |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 6:53:40 PM EDT
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First off Vegas is my home,
Second I drive vegas dr daily. Third. If I ever saw that mother fucker I would get out of my car and provoke his ass, then get him to assualt me just to shoot the worthless mother fucker 
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Posted: 10/13/2004 6:53:44 PM EDT
[#33]
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Posted: 10/13/2004 6:56:34 PM EDT
[#34]
He was trying to say
Don't smoke crack |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 6:57:03 PM EDT
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I wouldn't even unholster. Just throw the motherfucking truck in gear and pin him against something until I see his balls coming out his mouth.
<Racial slur removed> |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 6:57:25 PM EDT
[#36]
PERFECT "This is your brain on drugs" commercial right there.
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Posted: 10/13/2004 6:59:08 PM EDT
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Fuck beating him.... I'd give him a $0.05 oneway trip to Hell via a "muthafuckin" FMJ. The victim should have fucking floored it in reverse when he was behind the car. Forget about trying to get away. Plus, her car is fucked... that piece of shit bum isn't going to pay for the damage to her car. That "muthafucka" deserves to be dead. |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 7:01:48 PM EDT
[#38]
Same thing here in FL. The minute he hit the driver's window with the crowbar he comitted felony assault. Florida law justifies the use of deadly force when (among other situations) "you are trying to protect yourself or another person from death or serious bodily harm" - From a State of Fl. Division of Licensing pamphlet. That scumbag is the disease - my 1911 is the cure! |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 7:03:53 PM EDT
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Deadly force can be used in defense of others in NV. So yes, you could hop out of your adjacent vehicle and drill the SOB after he starts smashing away at the passenger or driver window to protect the occupants from harm.
Hopefully you would be shooting in defense of others and that this wasn't some theatrical setup involving a few guys and a rental car. But if I personally was in that car that POS would have been fed a plate full of 230 grain .45 ACP Golden Sabers. A couple bucks in ammo sure would be cheaper than burdening the taxpayers with incarcerating him. Being blocked in by traffic there isn't really any place to flee to so it isn't a simple matter of driving away. |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 7:04:29 PM EDT
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Incorrect. First, the llady was trapped in traffic and had no escape route. You can see her honking at the person in front of her when she tries to go, but he can't go because the intersection is full. Secondly, he may have been damaging her car, but he was assaulting her with a crowbar, which qualifies as a deadly weapon. You would have been no-billed by all but the most liberal of grand juries in Texas if you shot him. Remember that assault with a deadly weapon does not mean that you'd have to be injured. He'd only have to threaten you, which he obviously is doing in the video. Furthermore, if you had the tape he talks about 'bangin' and 'killin people' all on the tape. That'd get you off scott free right there.
Texas law allows you to intercede in the event that someone cannot defend themselves and you are reasonably certain that they are in danger of losing their life. A guy smashing in a car's windows and making threatening comments with a crowbar to the passenger qualifies in my book. I don't know about you, but I'd take my chances. Of course, what are the chances he's not going to come after you if you step out of your car and tell him to stop with weapon drawn?
Again, she couldn't drive off. Watch it again and you see she's trapped in traffic. Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas... |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 7:05:39 PM EDT
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geezus, me, my 20 month old daughter and pregnant wife drop past that intersection today.
And the barrel of my PM9 on its way to Kahr for warranty repair!!! I guess i can't make ANY exceptions. |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 7:07:04 PM EDT
[#42]
That's why you should have an IDENTICAL BACKUP to your carry gun. |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 7:07:16 PM EDT
[#43]
I think it would have been justified it a weapon was produced and he was left in a pool of blood.
The occupant of that car were in fear for their lives. Bobwrench |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 7:09:04 PM EDT
[#44]
He definately deserved a Wile E. Coyote style flattening. - BG |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 7:09:27 PM EDT
[#45]
I think you nailed every point, especially this one. A reasonable person would believe he was intent on seriously harming or killing that poor, trapped women. |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 7:11:49 PM EDT
[#46]
This guy just came from church right?
SIgned Kurt "I'm sick of the Man keepin me down" Austin |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 7:14:05 PM EDT
[#47]
Thank you , now I have a excuse to buy another .45! "what my backup to my backup might break!" |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 7:14:32 PM EDT
[#48]
Bingo. Either that, or drilled him with a few .40 inch holes....
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Posted: 10/13/2004 7:15:39 PM EDT
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Hey, shoot that crackhead and one gun will be sitting in the Police Lockup as potential evidence. Backup to the backup = good idea |
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Posted: 10/13/2004 7:35:47 PM EDT
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OK...by the second hit to the car..I BET anyone who carries would have his gun out and a serious adrenaline rush. Now comes the driver side window smash...DO YOU FIRE?
I would say that one would be committed and have no choice but to fire. Now what do you do? |
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