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Posted: 10/9/2004 1:12:51 PM EDT
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What are you implying? |
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Posted: 10/9/2004 1:13:34 PM EDT
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See, thats the kind of thing I'm talking about. |
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Posted: 10/9/2004 1:13:47 PM EDT
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Its easy. When a Christian decides to sin anyhow, and they know its a sin. They feel they are allowed to do it anyway' since afterwards "God will forgive me anyhow" but the truth is, God only forgives for sins that you are truly sorry for and didn't mean to commit.
Pretty much sum it in one word IGNORANCE!  
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Posted: 10/9/2004 1:15:37 PM EDT
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I've never made any secret of the fact that since my divorce from the last Ex-Miz Hun became final in May, 2004, I have been on a singular hunt for the perfect replacement pie.
I fgure that I was faithful and kept only to the last Ex-Miz Hun from approximately January, 1981, until I met a 24 year old chick in June, 2004. During that period, I never gave so much as a sideways glance at another girl with the idea of anything sexual. Even when I contemplated sexual situations during that 23 year stretch, it was always the last Ex-Miz Hun who was the other player in my reveries. Now, that we are divorced, I am trying to find another young lady who would be willing to go a similar period with me as the be-all, end-all in her life, as the last Ex-Miz Hun was in mine. To do so, nowadays, requires a little good old fashioned reconoitering, testing the waters, kicking the tires, trying out the jacuzzi and the plumbing, so to speak. So, does Jesus pardon my indiscretions as I go about finding someone with whom to begin a committed relationship? Surely, He does. And I never purposefully hurt anyone during the tactical and strategic maneuvers, and I am always honest to a fault in revealing my intentions, plain and without mincing words. I, therefore, consider myself a sinning Christian, devoutly seeking a path to become as sin-free as possible in the very near future. What the Good Lord doesn't wish me to do, however, is to hurredly find a wife, and to repent at leisure of a hasty, rash, and ill-considered decision to do so. So that in the end, the sin is greater than at the beginning. Make sense? Eric The(Sensible)Hun 
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Posted: 10/9/2004 1:16:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/9/2004 1:20:43 PM EDT
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How can you have a discussion on premarital sex without discussing Thomas Aquinas? Funny how this wasn't a problem until the 13th century...
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Posted: 10/9/2004 1:30:43 PM EDT
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Yes it would..... but as you said... they are "imperfect" and any stone throwing is just one more imperfection... a representation of their sin. ALL have sinned, and fallen short of God's glory. ALL. It just looks and feels a lot worse when we see the hypocrisy of Christians, who believe, and might even outwardly say one thing... then DO another. I know, it took me a long time to get over this..... but it is all there in black and white. Judge not, lest you be judged. I know I am a sinner, I know I dont deserve grace, and I struggle, and I fail. But it doesnt keep me from trying. Now.... as to the sex thing.... yes.... they KNOW they are sinning, they KNOW it is wrong, they just let desire win. Some rationalize it, even make themselves believe it's ok..... but deep down, inside, they know they are wrong. The world has a stronger hold on some of us.... and it's hard to let go. It does not change their forgiveness, as long as they face thier sin, are TRULY repentant, and beg for forgiveness. Helps me get through the day.... |
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Posted: 10/9/2004 1:37:33 PM EDT
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ETH,
You sound like Kerry last night in the debate trying in vain to justify government funded abortion. Sure God will forgive you, does that make it right, absolutely not. Faith is what pleases God and anything not of faith is sin. Trust God to bring the right woman to you without trying her out first. |
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Posted: 10/9/2004 1:38:38 PM EDT
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Shit! YES YES YES. AREN'T! |
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Posted: 10/9/2004 1:39:05 PM EDT
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And the Catholics who go to church on Saturday night, because they want to go out drinking afterwards, screw their girlfriends, cheat on their wives, etc., and then are too lazy or hung over to get up Sunday morning to be "forgiven".  Might fall asleep or puke in the isles.
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Posted: 10/9/2004 1:48:31 PM EDT
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i need to add to this discussion being an 19 yo christian in college.
God gave man the gift of sex between a husband and wife. satan perverted it so that people do it outside of wedlock when we acept Jesus were born again- called to a higher purpose if you will. regardless of how hot a chick is you can resist this SIN. i have friends who broke up with gf b/c all they did was grab her boob. if you feel yourself struggling just meditate on Jesus' sacrifice/ say a prayer/ call a fellow christian. realise youre not alone. ive talked to a bunch of married christians who sexed outside of wedlock and feel horrible about it. just have faith that God will provide you with a wife. i dont want to have to look at my future wife and think back on all the sluts i did |
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Posted: 10/9/2004 1:51:59 PM EDT
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Bah, drunk church rocks. 
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Posted: 10/9/2004 1:53:14 PM EDT
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Nay, it is not so. I know precisely what I'm doing. I have weighed the consequences and found that the sin of premarital sex is less problematic to all involved than a disastrous marriage. In Malachi we are told that 'God hateth divorce', and I believe that finding a woman with whom to share the years of your life is so important that I tend not to worry of the lesser sin of sexual misconduct while seeking to avoid the even greater sin of adultery in a hastily procured marriage. Rationalizing is not at work here. Good common sense is. Is my sin then unpardonable? If it isn't, then it will be a sin that I will embrace for the short term. The same God who said 'Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery' is the same One Who inspired St. Paul to warn us 'not to forsake the assembly.' So, if you say, I don't go to Church but I am a Good Christian, you are just as much in error as anyone.
Who in this world or the next is arguing that sleeping with several women before you find the perfect wife is OK? It is wrong. It is sin. It is one, however, that I risk with eyes wide open.
What I am doing I do not consider as anything pleasing to God. Get that straight!
The Good Lord might wish me to be preaching the Gospel in the SubSaharan Africa. I will allow Him to move me there if that is His wish. In the meantime, I need to find a wife who fits. Eric The(OrAReasonableFacsimile)Hun
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Posted: 10/9/2004 2:11:19 PM EDT
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Which is why Christianity is the biggest enabler ever. It's not your fault, Jesus was the only perfect person ever. I have found my Christian friends much more likely to have a cavalier attitude about their fuck ups than my agnostic and atheist friends. |
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Posted: 10/9/2004 2:33:00 PM EDT
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"therefore to him that knoweth to doeth good and doeth it not, to him it is sin"............when you know to do good and don't, you sin. no sense in trying to justify or rationalize it. you simply of your own volition make a choice to obey God or not. this verse has always intrigued me, "be sure your sin will find you out"......I am no man's judge. i'll leave that to God.
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Posted: 10/9/2004 2:41:11 PM EDT
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congradulations, you've now rationalized your rationalizing. And I didn't think you could become any more ludicrous.  Your hypocrisy really does know no bounds does it? |
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Posted: 10/9/2004 2:58:36 PM EDT
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Guilty as charged. I make no bones about it (not that I've gotten any from anywhere outside my marriage since my wedding).
It's against the Commandments of God, but so is my wishing several undesireable human beings violently dead. I'm not perfect, just forgiven. I stray, but I try not to be openly abusive of Christ's gift. Does that make me a hypocrite? Maybe, but no one here is the proper judge of that, and the One who is knows me far better than a few sins I may knowingly commit.  That said, I call sluts (male or female) sluts for reasons entirely devoid of religious content. I look at it as a self-esteem issue. |
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Posted: 10/9/2004 3:46:43 PM EDT
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True..and I for one will work on that. Sgtar15 |
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Posted: 10/9/2004 5:53:08 PM EDT
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Well, I'll be sure not to introduce you to any of my tramps then, I'd hate to tempt you.
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Posted: 10/9/2004 5:58:22 PM EDT
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You can't get saved whenever you want to. It has to be a sovereign work by God. Looking at a woman to lust after her is adultery too according to Jesus. So if you can't get a handle on lust before you are married, odds are you won't get control of it afterwards either. The marriage vows don't change a person from the inside out. But a real experience with Christ does. |
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Posted: 10/9/2004 5:59:57 PM EDT
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I am afraid I don't follow your objection to my post. Please explain. |
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Posted: 10/9/2004 6:09:30 PM EDT
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Non-Believers pick on Christians and our "contradictary nature" because it is easy to. You see, Non-Believers don't have any formal regulations upon themselves as a group. Now, one NB may have a certain set of ethnics, but that is known to himself or to those that he has professed this set of morals and principles to. Therefore, no one has any expectations of him or measures him by some generally known standard.
Christians, however, are focused on because we actually try to hold ourselves to a certain set of standards. A Christian and a NB could do two identical controversial things, but it would be the Christian that would take the brunt of the criticism because people are focusing that he is a Christian, not that the consequences of their actions were identical. There are just as many NB that abuse people, money, power, etc. in this world, and regardless of a person's motives, the consequences of their actions on their surroundings are identical. This discussion isn't about the pragmatic consequences that affect people in the world, it's about a relatively insignificant subject of motivation for one's actions. |
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Posted: 10/9/2004 6:13:03 PM EDT
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And that is emminently commendable, and the way a Christian man should be.
The Proverbs say to take joy in the wife of your youth....Nothing wrong with that at all.
Nothing wrong with finding a new mate provided the divorce was for the right reasons.
Here, sir, I must disagree with you. The times we live in do not have the effect of lowering God's standards in the least.
If we sin willfully after we have come to the knowledge of the truth, there remains for us no sacrifice for sin. Jesus pardons sin, but willfully ignoring what we know to be right is not acceptable. Doing so "tramples the Son of God underfoot, counts the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insults the Spirit of grace." (Hebrews 10)
Honesty is commendable.
I am not even sure how to tackle that statement. It is good that you are still able to feel convicted for wrong, but understand that the conviction you feel is a work of the Holy Spirit. It is Him telling you to turn away from whatever you do that brings that sense of conviction. Failing to do so grieves the Spirit, and can have dire consequences.
This is a true statement. God does not want us to make hasty comittments without Him. But the answer to that is patience, not dabbling in enough sin to "get by." If we follow Him as Lord, we will be taken care of. It is when we start doing things ourselves that we get caught in a trap.
Yes and no. Some of your statements are true. Others....Well, others do not. We are all capable of loosing our way. That is why Christian brothers and sisters are urged to bear one another up in prayer. |
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Posted: 10/9/2004 6:21:37 PM EDT
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And what they display is the improper attitude. When one studies the Word, they find out that Grace is not one big coverup for all of our sins. Certainly part of the Grace delivered by Christ is the atonement for our past sins, but the other part of Grace is the divine influence upon the heart of men that transforms them from rebels into sons of the Living God. From those who curse God to those who cry out by the Spirit of Adoption, Abba Father. Grace is the power of Christ that transforms a man's heart and molds him in the express image of Christ. Jesus is not my get out of jail free card. To confine His great work and great sacrifice to simply "getting me off" is to demean Him in the worst extreme. It makes Christ a servant to me, instead of making me His servant. But so many people do not consult the Word to discover these plain truths evident in Jesus' own words. To do so would require a change from them, and they think if they remain ignorant and hold to the heresy that somehow God will have to overlook the sin in their lives. I assure you that nothing could be further from the truth. It breaks my heart to see that people who profess no faith at all can see so clearly the difference between Jesus and those who claim His name, while so many in the church cannot. Sad that supposed sinners see things more with God's eyes than those who think they are His children. But it is just as it was in the days of Jesus. Tax collectors, prostitutes, and other "undesireables" instantly recognized Jesus and followed Him. The pharisees claimed that they were already fine because they were "Abraham's seed." It appears that in 2,000 years the human heart has not changed one bit. |
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Posted: 10/9/2004 6:25:24 PM EDT
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So the Buddist don't have the eight way path which they profess and oath to together in services? There aren't precipts that we also agree upon, with well know sets for the lay people, the temporary monks, and the monks? Silly me. 
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Posted: 10/9/2004 6:29:12 PM EDT
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I don't like you.....  
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Posted: 10/9/2004 6:40:34 PM EDT
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But there aren't very many people who know all of that stuff about the Buddist concept of faith. I will readily admit that I know precisely ZIP about how to define a "good" Buddist or a bad one. But I do know a thing or two about Christianity. What I find is that people, even people who are IN CHURCHES, don't know how to really measure a true Christian. They have a bunch of stories and half truths and ideas, (some of which are true, many that arent...) that they use without knowing what they are truly saying. They are trying to measure something without even knowing how to read the ruler. |
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Posted: 10/9/2004 8:00:19 PM EDT
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Man, is it ever going to be empty. Hope I get a place on a populated street.
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Posted: 10/9/2004 8:20:12 PM EDT
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That reminds me of that southpark movie (which I hated) where the kid goes to heaven, and there is only like 27,000 souls there. He's rejected, and goes to hell, where the Population counter is spinning so fast you can't count it. |
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Posted: 10/9/2004 8:28:43 PM EDT
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come on.. "children of the Most High". I hear that and the first thing that comes to mind is "gee, it wont be too long before they have a 'meeting' and drink 'kool-aid' " |
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Posted: 10/9/2004 8:32:46 PM EDT
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religion is like politics.. you just have to know when to call
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Posted: 10/9/2004 8:44:44 PM EDT
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If both people believe in their heart of hearts that they are doing nothing wrong having sex, then I don't think they are sinning.
When you advance to the next level and examine your Christianity through Jesus and not your preacher and "The Book", you will get a whole new perspective on sinning. For most people, they need the 10 commandments, but once you achieve a certain level of spirituality, the truth will come from within. |
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Posted: 10/9/2004 8:45:23 PM EDT
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Some people don't take God as seriously as others...
God gives them the choice, and they will answer to Him for the choices they make... I, personally, take the 'no sex' rule very seriously... Yes, it is possible to tell your body 'NO'... |
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Posted: 10/9/2004 9:20:31 PM EDT
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Ummm.....
Sad but true this is all a matter of belief and opinion that no one can back up with any logic - but that's religion for ya - What makes you think you're married? Do you think just because you have a marriage ceremony you are good to go? Exactly which religions do you think God sanctions and which ones don't make the cut? Is an animist ceremony OK? Is a non-denominational ceremony good enough? How about if you get a marriage license and don't have a ceremony besides a JP saying OK you're married? What if you have a religious ceremony without a license? Does God only recognize governmentally sanctioned marriges? Which governments are OK with God? Is a North Korean marriage license OK? What if you have sex with someone, fully intending to get married in the future, and you do - were your previous sexual encounters sinful? I think it goes like this - technically speaking Biblically you are married to any woman you have sex with, unless she has had sex with someone before you, in which case you are both guilty of adultery. As a man you can have as many wives as you want...but a woman can have only one husband unless she is a widow. The bible is sadly not politically correct, which means: Marriage would appear to me to be an agreement between two people that they are married. As far as the government is concerned, marriage is a political classification - you pay more taxes, less for insurance, your spouse's income is considered for government loan repayment rates, etc... If you have sex with someone you don't think you're married to then it's a sin - just the same as if you do anything you think is a sin. Put another way - Do you know the difference between right and wrong? Do you live your life according to those beliefs? |
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Posted: 10/9/2004 10:47:41 PM EDT
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Jesus saves!
Passes to Moses... Shoots! Scores!!!! |
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Posted: 10/9/2004 10:51:05 PM EDT
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Going to church every sunday makes you a christian like going to the zoo every friday makes you a lemur.  
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Posted: 10/9/2004 11:38:45 PM EDT
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AMEN!!! ETH says I'm going to Hell cuz I'm not baptised so I'm not saved. Yet he say's he can test the plumbing and still be saved just because he's baptized? 
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Posted: 10/9/2004 11:45:49 PM EDT
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Ofcourse! Remember that when you call yourself "saved" that allows you to tell everyone else what they do is wrong.  Also ETH, Who the hell are you trying to kid my man? Dont get me wrong, I love you as a fellow ARFCOM'er. But you go and tell everyone how to be a good Christian on this site (which is good to have someone with your biblical knowledge around) but yet you fornicate and also lust when you go to all the tittie bars which is also a sin last I looked. And dont give me that "Well I will ask for forgiveness" because I would thin that would be basically slapping Christ in the face if you go out and sin KNOWING its a sin and just using "well God will for give me" as a free pass to sin whenever you want. I am not trying to pick a fight and please understand that I respect you, I just think its ridiculous and would like to hear your opinion about it. |
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Posted: 10/10/2004 5:20:38 AM EDT
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This is the explanation offered by a "player "where I used to work. "Since I am born again and God knows everything that I will do and has seen to it that I will do as He asks it is OK for me to do as I wish!" I would gag when he would talk about how wonderful his wife was. Strange man!
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Posted: 10/10/2004 7:18:30 AM EDT
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Post from JustAGirl -
Nonsense! I have only said that I believe that NO ONE enters Heaven who has NOT been baptized. That's all. That's my belief and it is based upon the exact Words that were used by the Founder of Christianity. Those were what the Words were believed to mean for almost 2,000 years of Christian History, but beginning within the last Century or so, certain Christians began to believe FOR THE FIRST TIME in Christian History that BAPTISM WAS UNNECESSARY. There had been no new Gospels discovered, no new Scriptures revealed, but they based this new belief in what was already written and had withstood the test of time. So, that said, Just-A-Girl, I leave it up to you to decide whether you are 'saved' or not, for I make NO such judgment. It's not mine to make anyway. But there is a Judge, there will be a Judgment, and He will Judge righteously, and He is the One you have to please...not me.
Once again, your post and comments exhibit the very reason why religious arguments of any depth at all should be rigorously avoided on the Internet. IF you have ever read any of my posts on this subject, you will already understand that I am one of those Christians who does NOT believe that anyone is 'SAVED' in this world. You are 'SAVED' in the next World, not this one. You can live a very commendable life, even an almost perfect existence, on this earth, BUT IF YOU DIE IN YOUR SINS, you will NOT be permitted into Heaven. That means that IF you die in the arms of a whore, if you are killed during a bank robbery attempt, if you die in the uniform of a servant of Satan, whatever, all the baptisms, communions, prayers, and testimonies in your lifetime will not avail you of His Grace. Period. So, of all the folks on this Board, I am the one least likely to call myself, 'SAVED', nor will I likely call anyone else who is presently living, 'SAVED.' Just thought you'd like to make that note in your diary - Eric The Hun says 'No one living is yet saved.' Thanks! Now we can go further in this discussion if you'd like. Eric The(Un-Saved)Hun
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Posted: 10/10/2004 7:26:34 AM EDT
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Well we have an early CHristian group called hte Lukites, they followed the Secret Gospel of Luke. They were monagamous but practiced extramartial sex. Actually that was the way the Celts lived.
So it all comes down to who's interpetation you go by..... |
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Posted: 10/10/2004 7:40:00 AM EDT
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Post from M4_Aiming_at_U -
No one actually, for what good would that do? Kid y'all? What a low goal you seem to imagine for me. I could just as easily tell y'all I was a 83 year old white woman from Schenectady, New York, and get away with it! But, instead, I tell the truth.
Gee, thanks.
What in the dickens does one have to do with the other? I admonish folks who seek to understand Christianity as I think they should be admonished when they try and diddle with the meanings of Christian doctrines and beliefs. Yet, I never withhold the fact from y'all that I am a grossly all-too-human figure who suffers under the same failings and shortcomings that all flesh is heir to...on this planet. I do NOT try to conceal them, and the ONLY thing that you may honestly criticize me about is that I mention these failings, and not that I try to find some Scriptural authority within which to cloak my failings as His Servant. I don't. There is NO Scripture that makes what I freely admit doing in any manner acceptable to God.
Brother, if THAT were the condition, the requirement, the understanding, that 'You could never ask for forgiveness' anytime that you knew that something was a sin, and yet you did it anyway.... Then who IN THIS WORLD would ever be permitted to ask Jesus to forgive them? Run that formula you gave in your own mind first, and see if you have left anyone a means of escape....
If I was actually the sort of person who you describe I would NOT respect me, so why should you? Think about this at your leisure. You say we sin. And we do. You say that even before we sin, we know that it is sin that we are about to do. And we do. Then you say that, since we knew we were going to sin, and that we knew that it was a sin beforehand, that, afterwards we can never be forgiven by the Lord? Well, if that is true then there would always be Grace for the first time Sinner, and never Grace for the Believer! That once you become a Christian you could NEVER sin again, for how could you ever receive further forgiveness when you clearly knew that what you were doing was a sin? I don't think that's what you meant to say, but that is how it appears. Eric The(Un-Self-Righteous)Hun
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Posted: 10/10/2004 7:44:23 AM EDT
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Well, TheWind, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but that is surely NOT one of the many sects of an ancient religion that happened to make it through History! How many Lukite Churches do you see around nowadays? Not exactly mailstream Christianity, huh? Why in the world would you pick out some long forgotten dead-end branch of some sect and try and present it as historical or important or pivotal in Christian History? Let's pick our some equally arcane Jewish group that likely did the same. Is that how Judaism is to be explained? Sounds like Bolshevism to me. Eric The(GentleGentile)Hun
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Posted: 10/10/2004 7:51:37 AM EDT
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They simply disobey what they know to be true. There are consequences to that behavior. The offender simply denies it at the time just like any criminal. "I wont get caught!" Being "saved" is just that, to rescue from harm, danger, or loss. No one is saved at this time because you cant be saved from something thats going to happen in the future. You can only take precautions to aviod that disaster, and there has been 2K years with plenty of warning and ways given to avoid eternal death.
Could you elaborate? This varies with most people. |
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Posted: 10/10/2004 7:54:14 AM EDT
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I think that what most folks are trying to say is that if you TRULY appreciate Christ's sacrifice for our sins that you would make an EARNEST attempt to NOT sin in the future. Knowing that you are going to sin because you are an imperfect being and using your imperfections to justify (and, furthermore, GLORIFY) your sinning are two very different things.  You've made quite a show since your separation and divorce of how often you frequent strip clubs, how you are chasing young women and pounding on your chest expounding on your manhood and virility for being to sleep with these women. That is not even REMOTELY in the vein of making an earnest attempt not to sin. That's not even in the vein of "forgive me Father for I was tempted and sinned ONCE." That's the devil talkin'. |
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Posted: 10/10/2004 8:01:08 AM EDT
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Whoa!!! You mean "if it feels good do it?" God is the only one who decides what sin is. |
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Posted: 10/10/2004 8:02:44 AM EDT
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Precisely. I am on a journey to arrive at a destination. There are many detours, false trails, clever diversions, and the general hazzards of the journey itself. If I follow all the ancient landmarks, and use the signs that we all know that help mark the proper trail, I will arrive at the correct destination. If I don't, I sincerely doubt that anyone will come looking for me, my absence will not be noticed, and that I will not even be a fond memory to anyone in that next World.
Just imagine what a 'uniform' of a servant of Satan might be. It does vary...with people's imaginations. Eric The(Imaginative)Hun
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Posted: 10/10/2004 8:08:16 AM EDT
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Starting in my teenage years, I desperately wanted to experience sexual relations with God's greatest creation, but I didn't want to disobey what is a clear commandment of God. It wasn't easy, and there were times that I thought I was crazy for not following through on those desires, but I did marry as a virgin, at 29 no less.
Am I perfect? Nope. I've sinned plenty. I suspect the difference is that I try NOT to sin rather than simply accepting sin and attempting to justify it. |
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Posted: 10/10/2004 8:22:51 AM EDT
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Who doesn't? Or should I say, who doesn't earnestly attempt to do precisely as we know we MUST do? Now, who is always successful at this? Can I get an idea of just who it is who you believe to be 'without sin' and therefore able to cast the first stone? I know of NO ONE who is presently alive on this earth who could throw a stone at anyone.
Nonsense. I am honest about something that being dishonest about would not be worthwhile.
No, Miss_Magnum, that is how you perceive it! I frequent strip clubs to the same degree as my friends do, about once every week or so. So what? Do you think that there's something wrong about a man doing so? Then just say it! Spit it out, fercryingoutloud! We can surely discuss that, can't we?
Sorry, but you are trying to hold me to a standard that I do not accept. I did not attend strip clubs for so long as the last Ex-Miz Hun and I were together. That's 23 years. 23 years of faithful attention to one woman and one woman only. And I was 25 years old when I first met and fell in love with the last Ex-Miz Hun. Since I have become divorced, I am still that 25 year old man, and my tastes in women have not changed one iota. I have no idea if, when, and/or where I will find the next Ex-Miz Hun, and neither do you.
'How many times must I forgive my brother'? Tell me, Miss_Magnum, what is the maximum number of times that God will forgive me for going into a strip club, and/or having sexual relations with a young woman who is not my wife? This is very important information IF you have it. So spill it!
Like it was the devil talking when you claimed that the 24 year old girl I was dating had a 'baked on' tan! She was Hispanic, fercryingoutloud! She came by her 'baked on tan' honestly! But you, another woman and one who I am certain is well-versed in skin coloring and care, could only see her as plastic and with a baked on tan. That is judgmental to a degree that would shame most folks! But then I'm supposed to be the one who is supposed to be judgmental around here? No, thanks! I'd rather ask God to forgive me, than indict you. Eric The(Jealously,ThyNameIsWoman)Hun
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If I become a Christian will I get laid?
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