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Posted: 10/6/2004 3:37:33 PM EDT
[#1]
It's a shame, because I was on the markt for a new Wave and even a new titanium one.
But, hey. If he wants to support a traitor, so be it, but don't expect me to support him. |
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Posted: 10/6/2004 3:41:18 PM EDT
[#2]
+1 |
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Posted: 10/6/2004 3:56:17 PM EDT
[#3]
That's a pretty arrogant position for a business to take . Who does he think he is .... Colt  Actually I think he's bluffing and daring his customer base to call him on it . Well I for one plan to do just that  |
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Posted: 10/6/2004 3:57:50 PM EDT
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Maybe the Chick's w/ Dicks can sing him a song.
I know I wont be buying or useing his products anymore. I think he needs to do a little market resurch and find out the demographics of his customers. 
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Posted: 10/6/2004 4:02:10 PM EDT
[#5]
I bought a Kershaw and am very happy with it. I guess I will send him the box and say lost this buyer.
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Posted: 10/6/2004 4:13:09 PM EDT
[#6]
I guess Tim Leatherman will have to be happy being the manufacturer of the world's most expensive and complicated roach clip.
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Posted: 10/6/2004 4:17:52 PM EDT
[#7]
I own a Gerber.
Glad I do. Fuck off, Tim. SG |
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Posted: 10/6/2004 4:18:07 PM EDT
[#8]
Ihave a broken leatherman tool, I believe I will throw the POS in the trash. Of course, I will take Timmy up on his warranty service first. After they return my REPAIRED leathermantool, then I will throw it in the trash.
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Posted: 10/6/2004 4:28:32 PM EDT
[#9]
Now THERE's a thought - What is the warranty on Leatherman tools??  If mine is still covered, it might just "fail" once before it gets trashed for good.
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Posted: 10/6/2004 4:32:14 PM EDT
[#10]
20 year warranty IIRC
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Posted: 10/6/2004 4:34:33 PM EDT
[#11]
img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-9/835715/1timphoto.JPG Were in the world did that come from? 
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Posted: 10/6/2004 4:37:52 PM EDT
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I feel the same. I don't care who he votes for, Bush is still going to win... That said, as long as he supports his country, what's the big deal? The only thing that would make me boycott Leatherman was if Tim announced he WASN'T voting. Now, that's just plain stupid and ignorant. |
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Posted: 10/6/2004 4:47:16 PM EDT
[#13]
Girly tools are for girly men. Period.
From the SOG knives website: MACV/SOG History - SOG Specialty Knives and Tools, Inc. was named in honor of the Vietnam War's only covert special warfare unit-The Studies and Observation Group. Its existence was once denied by the US Government and it wasn't until long after the war that the SOG Story could even be told. The following is an excerpt from US ELITE FORCES-VIETNAM by Leroy Thompson that further describes the nature of this specialized group and its secret missions. Separate from "conventional," unconventional operations of the 5th Special Forces Group were the clandestine operations of Military Assistance Command Vietnam/Studies and Observations Group (MACV/SOG). The Studies and Observation Group (SOG) was a cover name to disguise SOG's real function, and the name "Special Operations Group," as it was sometimes called, described its real mission more accurately. Activated in January of 1964, SOG was a joint services unit composed of members from all four branches of the armed forces, including Navy SEALs, Marine Recons, Air Force Special Operations pilots of the 90th Special Operations Wing, but predominantly Army Special Forces. MACV/SOG's missions included: cross border operations into Cambodia, Laos and North Vietnam to carry out intelligence gathering or raiding missions on the enemy's 'home ground'; gathering intelligence about POWs and carrying out rescue missions when possible; rescuing downed aircrews in enemy territory ("Bright Light" missions); training, inserting, and controlling agents in North Vietnam to gather intelligence or form resistance groups; carrying out 'black' Psy Ops such as operating fake broadcasting stations inside North Vietnam; kidnapping or assassinating key enemy personnel; retrieving sensitive document so equipment lost in enemy territory or in enemy hands; and inserting rigged mortar rounds or other booby-trapped ordnance in enemy arms caches (OPERATION ELDEST SON). -Leroy Thompson. US Elite Forces-Vietnam. No. 7. Texas: Squadron/Signal, 1985. 27. If you'd like to learn more about the MACV/SOG Special Forces, here are a few books worth reading- 15 Months with SOG: A Warrior's Tour, Thom Nicholson, August 1999 MACV-SOG Command Histories, Charles F. Reske, April 1964 SOG: A Photo History of the Secret Wars, John L. Plaster, January 2000. SOG: The Secret Wars of America's Commandos in Vietnam, John L. Plaster, July 1998 Take that Hanoi John admirer, Tim "Girlyman" Leatherman. |
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Posted: 10/6/2004 4:56:32 PM EDT
[#14]
I got the same email, what a knucklehead.
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Posted: 10/6/2004 5:00:49 PM EDT
[#15]
Same response.
 Oh well, sad thing is, his employees will pay the price for his stupidity. Now lets go see which Gerber or SOG I will buy to replace my Leatherweasel. |
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Posted: 10/6/2004 5:01:19 PM EDT
[#16]
If you have a Leatherman tool, then sell it on eBay (rather than pitching it) - it will cost asshat a new sale, and it will put a few bucks in your pocket towards an SOG or Gerber.
If Tim Leatherman had signed that petition, it would be his right (and that should be respected) When he signs it as the CEO of a company, he is putting that company's name behind it, and that is unfair to his employees (who I'll bet not all are going to vote for Hanoi John). Unfortunately, as a rich, arrogant prick, Tim Leatherman can't figure that out, so blows everyone off with a cavalier "so be it" Well, so be it, Tim. Your products have no market here. Ever. Adios. |
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Posted: 10/6/2004 5:09:34 PM EDT
[#17]
At least he had the balls to back his position. Respectable, but stupid. Since I've always prefered Gerber's over leathermna's it's really no big deal to me, but to be armed with this info is nice I suppose.
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Posted: 10/6/2004 5:11:54 PM EDT
[#18]
I got the same form letter. I didn't expect him to run off to retract his statement, an in a way I would have been dissapointed if he had. I'm not going to throw my Leatherman away, but I will put it in a bag somewhere as a back up tool. I will never have another one. I'm going to try SOG first, the Gerbers I have seen lok to clunky, plus I get a discount on SOG.
The only other company on the list I used (before) was Columbia. I didn't bother writing them because it is so much bigger. Plus it is a true corp, not a small basically one family operation. Columbia could give a shit if I buy their product. I still won't buy them, other stuff just as good and less expensive anyway. The same reason that this boycott tactic might hurt Leatherman is the same reason I liked them in the first place. In a way it makes me feel bad. |
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Posted: 10/6/2004 5:14:05 PM EDT
[#19]
ain't the internet a bitch, tim?
my wife broke my gerber gator the other day prying shit with it ...................so i was flipping through my knife catalog and came across the leatherman section and laughed...................dumb sonofabitch
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Posted: 10/6/2004 5:22:32 PM EDT
[#20]
I like my SOG mutli-tool.
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Posted: 10/6/2004 5:25:09 PM EDT
[#21]
Got the same reply. I respect the fact that he made his stand and is taking his lumps like a man. But I won't buy another.
Is SOG American made? |
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Posted: 10/6/2004 5:27:53 PM EDT
[#22]
Well, he made his choice, which he has every right to. Now we'll make ours.
BTW, what a dumbass. Just who does he think his customers are? Handymen and DIYers tend to be Republicans, except for a few union guys. You might get away with that sort of thing if you're selling computers or something, but not this. Here's to another Smith & Wesson (driven so far into the red that it's sold to someone with a clue). |
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Posted: 10/6/2004 5:40:19 PM EDT
[#23]
What a fool. Anyone want to buy a Wave? Bigfeet |
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Posted: 10/6/2004 5:42:09 PM EDT
[#24]
+1 Guys and gals.... We engage in this exercise every 4 years. I will now have been through it 12 times... It's only the last few that hatred for an opposing viewpoint has been accecptable. I know good people that are going to be voting against me. I have come to realize that they are not satan incarnate. If I refused to buy anything from anybody that I, or my relatives disagreed with.. I'd be a millionaire! I couldn't spend any money! My opinion is worth exactly what you paid for it. |
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Posted: 10/6/2004 5:46:33 PM EDT
[#25]
Here is my Columbia response.
Dear Mr. Shaw, Thank you for taking the time to contact Columbia Sportswear and share your concerns regarding a recent article in the Oregonian. Please let me assure that Columbia Sportswear is a bi-partisan and public company that doesn?t affiliate with political candidates or organizations. However, as an outdoor company we are concerned with outdoor issues that effect the environment and our consumer?s ability to enjoy the outdoors. Therefore, we?ve ensured that Columbia representatives have been in attendance during each candidate?s visit to the Pacific Northwest. Specifically, the article that announced our support for the Kerry campaign was a misprint and should have only announced personal support for Kerry on behalf of Peter Bragdon ? a company executive. In addition, it should be noted that other company executives including our CEO and President, Tim Boyle have personally supported the Bush campaign both verbally and monetarily. In conclusion, Columbia Sportswear did not and will not endorse a candidate for President of the United States. Thanks again for you inquiry and the opportunity to respond to your concerns. Please feel free to contact me if you have any further questions or concerns regarding Columbia Sportswear or our products. Best wishes, Kim Kim Schamp Public Relations Specialist II Columbia Sportswear/Sorel 14375 NW Science Park Drive Portland OR 97229 503.985.4833 FAX 503.985.5959 |
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Posted: 10/6/2004 5:57:01 PM EDT
[#26]
In conclusion, Columbia Sportswear did not and will not endorse a candidate for President of the United States.
Take a lesson in PR from Columbia Tim! |
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Posted: 10/6/2004 6:06:32 PM EDT
[#27]
+1 letter sent, joined the boycott.
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Posted: 10/6/2004 6:25:10 PM EDT
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According to this he is not spending any of his own money: www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.asp?txtName=Leatherman&NumOfThou=0&txt2004=Y&submit=Go%21 |
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Posted: 10/6/2004 7:02:35 PM EDT
[#29]
a big +1 |
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Posted: 10/6/2004 7:38:02 PM EDT
[#30]
I'll never do it. |
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Posted: 10/6/2004 7:38:53 PM EDT
[#31]
I got the same response. He no doubt sent a form letter out to reply to all the boycott e-mails. When businessmen make known their support for a rabid socialist and traitor, then they must accept the consequences. Anyone who would vote for a piece of trash like Kerry who has burned American flags and urinated on them is no American. This election will be a turning point in this country's history. Few elections before this one have been so hotly contested by two sides so far apart. If Bush wins, I believe we will see violent protests. If Kerry wins, that will no doubt be the resurgence of the militia movement and a very serious underground right wing organization forming.
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Posted: 10/6/2004 7:39:42 PM EDT
[#32]
I'm happy that you got a response. Nice to know who supports who.
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Posted: 10/6/2004 8:12:39 PM EDT
[#33]
To: Tim Leatherman, President Leatherman Tool Group
Re: Endorsement of John Kerry I am sadden to read of your public support for John Kerry. I hope you considered the consequences to your employees and their families. Being the owner of a small business in "fly over country" I look to purchase or do business with companies/organizations that share our values. John Kerry and the current Democratic party does not. Our inventory shows we have approximately 130 of your tools...these will be taken out of service (and replaced by a competitor). Additionally our local media has been contacted to announce our actions. I wish you well and pray for your employees. Thank you.....Bill |
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Posted: 10/6/2004 8:16:23 PM EDT
[#34]
By the way...if any of yall are thinking about destroying your leatherman tools...or deep sixing them... please think about donating them to this low budget college student who can't afford a multi-tool right now. Then you can get rid of them without making this student buy a cheap one. Ill pay whatever price you think is fair, plus shipping.
Please? John |
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Posted: 10/6/2004 8:18:17 PM EDT
[#35]
Nice to hear that at least one of the companies on the list has the common sense to do some damage control. Now if they were really serious about it, they would at least give "Peter Bragden, vice president, general counsel, Columbia Sportswear (Portland, Oregon)" his walking papers for being boneheaded enough (he's your general counsel for cripes sake!) to sign a company title to a political endorsement. I sure as hell would not want him giving me legal advice. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1231976/posts
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Posted: 10/6/2004 8:31:46 PM EDT
[#36]
Excellent idea. I love the thought of thousands of competitors empty boxes in their mailbox with 'Vote Kerry, Tim' written on them.  +1 on selling what you got vs tossing it. |
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Posted: 10/6/2004 8:41:24 PM EDT
[#37]
Smoky Mountain Knife Works has 'em for $60, with additional heads for $20-$23. Smoky Mountain Knife Works |
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Posted: 10/6/2004 9:25:24 PM EDT
[#38]
Does SOG make one with a blasting cap crimper? I thought they made a model that has one.
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Posted: 10/7/2004 8:54:16 AM EDT
[#39]
Yes they do, it is called the EOD Powerlock...see it here... www.sogknives.com/eodpwrlck.htm I have had very good luck with all my SOG products! |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 9:09:31 AM EDT
[#40]
I see that many of the SOG tools have covers over the blades, screwdrivers, etc. to make the pliers more comfortable to use. Do the covers get in the way?
I also see that SOG makes the overall tool easy to disassemble. How many folks swap out individual blades/tools, and is there a place to get single blades/tools? Christmas is coming, and I wouldn't mind banishing my tool-that-shall-not-be-named to a forgotten drawer in my workbench. After I grind off the brand marks. |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 9:15:49 AM EDT
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This is the closest I can come to a Leatherman PST.
Anyone have another brand that matches the weight and tool selection of the PST ? Silly Mr Leatherman. I will not buy my work crews any more of your products. www.gerbertools.com/5047.htm  Specs Overall Length: 6.56'' Length Closed: 5'' Weight: 8.6 oz. Handle Material: Stainless Steel Sheath: Ballistic nylon Components Blunt nose pliers wire cutter wire crimper fine edge knife serrated knife cross point screwdriver small medium and large flat blade screwdrivers lanyard ring can opener bottle opener file and ruler. |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 9:19:31 AM EDT
[#42]
Ain't freedom and Democracy great, Tim??
You get to not only vote, but to use (jeopardize?) your company by going public with that vote, in an apparent effort to sway others votes. (either that, or you are just brain dead) And in turn, WE get to not buy your products, in an effort to tell you your are screwed up in the head. America - what a country!!!!!!!! |
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Posted: 10/7/2004 9:21:49 AM EDT
[#43]
sell em on ebay- you get the $ and it takes a sale away from him
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Posted: 10/7/2004 9:59:13 AM EDT
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There's nothign finer than a devious mind. I like it. |
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Posted: 10/8/2004 1:37:24 AM EDT
[#45]
Better burn your Microsoft Windows(TM) CDs, too. Bill Gates is a big Democratic contributor. His father, the multimillionaire lawyer (well, multibillionaire stockholder, now) is an even bigger Democrat who pushed for Initiative 676 (gun owner licensing) in Washington a few years ago. (Bill Jr. only donated a few hundred thou to bankroll that effort.)
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Posted: 10/8/2004 3:52:27 AM EDT
[#46]
Linux baby!! |
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Posted: 10/8/2004 3:58:13 AM EDT
[#47]
By Gerber
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Posted: 10/8/2004 5:02:25 AM EDT
[#48]
Message sent to Leatherman Tools:
The young mechanics often want to check out the tools us old timers carry and use, so they know what to buy with their tool allowances. They will NEVER see another Leatherman product in my hand, on my belt,or in my tool box. I threw that junk in the river on my way home from work today. Yes, I am an old timer, and I served in the U.S. Armed Forces during the Viet Nam War. This is the war during which John Kerry committed acts of treason against the People and Government of the U.S.A. This led directly to the pain, suffering, and deaths of some of my comrads in arms. Your boss has stated his (and your's) support for this traitor in his bid for President of the United States. This is an insult to me and everyone who has ever Honorably served this country. I will boycot your products from this day forward, and will encourage all I work with, hunt with, and go to church with to do the same. May your company quickly vanish from the U.S. marketplace. |
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Posted: 10/8/2004 5:38:31 AM EDT
[#49]
I'm hoping all who received Leatherman's canned response will post it on all the appropriate boards.
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Posted: 10/8/2004 5:52:48 AM EDT
[#50]
I buy Gerber!
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