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Posted: 6/4/2001 1:00:48 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/4/2001 2:54:09 PM EDT
Web shots hasn't been working in my past few posts, but I'll try this one. Here's a pic of my SAR-3 with a 16 inch barrel, no hider shooting Q3131A [img]http://wsphotofews.excite.com/025/pq/2B/u8/LY35446.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/4/2001 2:58:41 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/4/2001 6:32:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/4/2001 6:35:52 PM EDT by CB1]
here is one... BM shorty no brake, no f/s wwwwwoooowwww [@:D] [img]http://members.tripod.com/shooting_1/images/Fireball.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/4/2001 9:06:10 PM EDT
Anyone else have some photos ? come on post em !!!! Lets see just how bad these muzzle brakes are and how wonderful the flash suppressor is... [heavy]
Link Posted: 6/4/2001 11:22:05 PM EDT
btt
Link Posted: 6/5/2001 6:09:15 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/5/2001 6:39:56 AM EDT
raf, Lack of a flash suppressor lights up your area during the DAY. Flash suppressors are important because they help conceal one's position in the daylight not nighttime. I would wager that the overwhelming majority of military encounters occur in the daytime. Nightime shootouts of any consequence are rare, and to be effective at night, an individual requires expensive night/infrared scopes (thousands of bucks) and a stupid enemy that doesn't use concealment (foxholes, ground cover, etc.)
Link Posted: 6/5/2001 8:06:54 AM EDT
I thought Q3131A and M193 ball were the same ? Both should have the flash retardant mixed in with the powder. Why the massive muzzle flash, then ? Sure would make you an easy target, day or night.
Link Posted: 6/5/2001 8:24:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/5/2001 8:26:50 AM EDT by raf]
Link Posted: 6/5/2001 10:25:55 AM EDT
Question, What abou WWII and Korea. How did the Garand do at night without a flash supressor. By the way the SAR-3 has a short barrel that doesn’t help keep the flash down at all. Has anyone fired a 308 or 30.06 either a bolt or semi auto without a suppresor at night, I was just wondering how bad the flash is from a Garand or non suppresed FAL at night. I am going to purchase an FAL and a Garand in the very near future and I would like to know in regards to the FAL if I really need to get a preban just to have the suppresor. Sniper for Justice VINCE AUT MORIRE “Conquer or Die”
Link Posted: 6/5/2001 10:35:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/5/2001 10:40:40 AM EDT by raf]
Link Posted: 6/5/2001 10:36:08 AM EDT
I've shot a FAL at night, with the shorter style FS and a 21" barrel. It works great. The flash looks like little cigarette embers over each hole. Very brief and very dark. I was very impressed.
Link Posted: 6/5/2001 10:47:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/5/2001 10:45:13 AM EDT by Vyper45]
My Smith Flash hider I got in trade for my smith, and armalite muzzle brakes, works great, only a few sparks at night, and it looks cool.. heres a pic... [img]http://www.shooterstore.com/dpmsinc/images/Bl-22.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/5/2001 11:01:27 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/5/2001 6:46:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/5/2001 6:49:38 PM EDT by Sukebe]
Originally Posted By Sniper_762x51: Question, Has anyone fired a 308 or 30.06 either a bolt or semi auto without a suppressor at night, I was just wondering how bad the flash is from a Garand Sniper for Justice VINCE AUT MORIRE “Conquer or Die”
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Yes, I have fired my M-1 at night. I can't think of a clever description so I will just say there is an EXTREMELY BRIGHT FLASH. It is clear to me why flash suppressors were invented. Just a sideline; There were two types of flash suppressors used on M-1 sniper rifles. A cone shaped style(early) and a pronged style(later). I've not seen either in action. They are available as surplus The cone type clamps onto the bayonet lug and the prong type replaces the gas cylinder lock.
Link Posted: 6/5/2001 7:37:04 PM EDT
Gun Smoke Enterprises has done some testing of the type you are referring to, on M16s and posted pics here. We had intended to do a lot more, but the digital camera used was a disappointment, and daylight savings time came along as well. Perhaps by this fall, a digital camcorder will be in use. In the meantime, if you have a question on a particular muzzle device, feel free to email me, or Gun Smoke at gunsmoke@okeechobee.com
Link Posted: 6/5/2001 8:08:34 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/10/2001 5:56:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/10/2001 5:54:14 PM EDT by bandit]
RAF, the following is a link to some of the pics we posted of our testing. [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?id=7211[/url]
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