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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:47:17 AM EDT
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I think you have mis-understood me. By all means, condemn the perpetrators of these inhuman acts. But it is bigotry to blame the many for the acts of a few. Bigotry on this board will be dealt with as per the CoC. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:48:58 AM EDT
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Sorry, raf, but I was NOT replying to YOUR post, but to some of the others!
I apologize if you thought otherwise! The broad brushing of every Moslem for the acts of the few is one reason that I always refer to these scumbuckets as 'IslamoFacists', which, I think, is pretty narrowly defined! Eric The(UsuallyClearAndConcise)Hun 
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:51:00 AM EDT
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just a thought but -- It would serve as a deterrant. A terrorist may give his life for the chance to kill a christian. But if he knows that he would be giving the lives of all of his family and friends(involved or not) he may see that the price of his actions is too high.-- just a thought ktm500 |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:52:03 AM EDT
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OK. Perhaps the mis-understanding was mine. All is well, than.
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:54:16 AM EDT
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Dude check the slide show, wayy too many pics to post
story.news.yahoo.com/news?g=events/ts/090104russiaschool&tmpl=sl&e=1 |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:54:22 AM EDT
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Radical Islamists are resposible for this. Last time I checked there were thousands still alive. God have mercy on the person who harms my child(ren), because I surely won't. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 9:55:10 AM EDT
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+1 
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:00:26 AM EDT
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Russia's problem is our problem. Our enemies have much in common and many ties. These pictures need to be shoved in the face of every antiwar/pro-Palestinian/pro-Saddam nutcase in America and Europe. This is what we're dealing with. These people -- the ones who hide behind a false religion and use it to rationalize their depravity -- must be eliminated.
Meanwhile, I promise you, all of mainstream Islam will remain still in the face of these atrocities . . . continuing to quietly promote future offenses. That alone speaks volumes about this blight on humanity. They will never clean house and they will never reform because this is who they are at their very core. And yes, this will come to the Homeland. We will see this happen in America. And law enforcement will be powerless to prevent it. They will only be able to address these events after they start. Only an armed civilian majority is capable of quickly cutting short this sort of thing. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:01:03 AM EDT
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My son.  I wonder how long he will survive in this world. If he believes in Jesus Christ as his Lord and savior as I do, I fear he will suffer and die because of it. Though, we may walk through the valley of death, we will fear no evil. The Lord is with us all the days of our lives and through eternity in the next. I pray for those innocent children as I pray for the innocent children killed through abortion in this country.  -LS |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:14:40 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:20:07 AM EDT
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Don't even have to have children. Anyone who would harm a child ... Deserves whatever bad comes their way. Whatever it may be. There is a special place in hell for people who would hurt children deliberately. /hopes to have a child someday soon |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:20:14 AM EDT
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Pardon my language, but WHY THE FUCK IS IT 150 PEOPLE DEAD?! Why don't we call them what they were, children? Are they trying not to offend muslims?
Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas... |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:22:52 AM EDT
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Well, because there are evidently dead adults as well. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:23:50 AM EDT
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I am getting mighty tired of this fucking nonsense and PC bullshit all over the world...
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:26:17 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:26:34 AM EDT
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Fair enough
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:29:41 AM EDT
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The Russians are reporting they have killed 10 ARAB MERCENARIES in the group… some Russian commentators are saying this may have been an Al Quada organised operation…
ANdy |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:32:03 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:32:57 AM EDT
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I made it to the 25th picture before I couldn't go any farther. I was crying and gritting my teeth so hard that my jaw still hurts. I had to hug my children after that. I cannot imagine how devastated they must be. Remember the Alamo, and God Bless Texas... |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:33:16 AM EDT
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Yeah. There's something I remember from my Vietnam History class. Always people talking about how the VC won because they had "more will to win". Remember the end comments by Kurtz in Apolalypse Now about "will"? Do I like grouping whole groups together? Not really, no. But hey, we had to carpet bomb German cities too in order to win. Sometimes you have to do a lot of nasty things that we regret are necissary. In light of these folks directly targeting children, I will turn a blind eye to any response the Russians have. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:34:04 AM EDT
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I agree you can't paint the entire religion for the actions of some but where does it stop? If we had said the same thing about Germans in Nazi Germany or citizens in Japan prior to WWII we would never have taken action. I have no doubt that the vast majority of citizens of both those countries were good honest people you would be proud to call friends.
The same can be said of Islam. No doubt the vast majority have no part in the actions of terrorists. The problem is who is going to sort good from bad? The majority may not approve of the actions of the few but they aren't condemning it or stopping it within their own communities either. They therefor are responsible. We as well as almost all other powers across the world have bought sensitive wars since the end of WWII. UN/US vs. North Korea, France vs. Vietnam, France vs. Algeria, US vs Vietnam, Soviet Union vs. Afghanistan, US vs Iraq (first Gulf War), Russia vs. Chechnya, US vs Iraq (second Gulf War). Not one of these conflicts has yet to be successful for the vastly superior country involved. Not one of these conflicts have involved total war on the scale of wars fought prior to the Korean Conflict. I again wish to state I don't believe in the "Nuke em all" school of thought but it is time we take the gloves off in our efforts to stamp out radical Islam. It is only when your enemy is convinced he is defeated he will cease to fight you. An enemy will not be convinced he is defeated when he and his compatriots have not sufficiently suffered consequences for their actions. It is time terrorists, those who harbor them and even those who refuse to condemn them suffer consequences for their actions or inactions. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:34:56 AM EDT
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This was an horrible act by a small group of Chechens and some hired guns, not something endored by Iran, or Iraq, or Saudi Arabia, or any other Islamic country.
are you sure about that? trust me, in bagdad..in tehran..in mecca, itself, there will be muslims thanking allah for their glorious victory and the martyrdom of their terrorist force. where is the great muslim outcry against this inhumanity? why are not the 'good' muslims protesting in the streets? no need to answer those questions. i already know the answers. they were merely rhetorical. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:37:03 AM EDT
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I vote we try to catch them alive, then we slowly behead them on national TV.
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:37:28 AM EDT
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Absolutely rigth! In order to do good things, sometimes you gotta do bad things... |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:37:52 AM EDT
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We should not be surprised at the IslamoFacist behaviour towards western children… consider how they treat their own……they just regard them as future suicide bombers
   Andy |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:41:40 AM EDT
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President Putin, WILL YOU JOIN US NOW?????????????? |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:42:48 AM EDT
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Yep, that pretty much sums it up. And the funny thing is, If I couldn't get the guilty parties, then those who support the guilty would have to suffice. I didn't know true hatred until 9/11. Every attack since then only serves to reinforce that feeling. At this point, it is either us, or them. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:46:59 AM EDT
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EXACTLY! I've been saying that for almost 3 years now -- this is MAINSTREAM Islam we are witnessing. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:52:23 AM EDT
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A woman grieves over the body of her child killed when Russian troops stormed a school seized by gunmen in the town of Beslan, in the province of North Ossetia near Chechnya:
THE FUCKING BASTARDS!!!!!!! |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 10:59:51 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/3/2004 11:03:10 AM EDT
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Anyone got russian articles on this? How is the russian media spinning it? How are the people reacting?
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Posted: 9/3/2004 11:04:01 AM EDT
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The populace caught one terrorist and literally pulled him apart and killed him. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 11:05:53 AM EDT
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New images
 
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Posted: 9/3/2004 11:06:39 AM EDT
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Vito says thay showed video of that in England. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 11:06:49 AM EDT
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Good....I actually am glad to hear this. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 11:07:35 AM EDT
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Now pics of that would be worthwhile seeing!  I grieve for the families that lost loved ones over there. May all the terrorist scumbags rot in hell!
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Posted: 9/3/2004 11:08:58 AM EDT
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I'd like to see that video. It might provide some solace and relief. If you have young children (mine are 4 and 2), you know where I am coming from. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 11:12:05 AM EDT
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I have three girls..14,8 and 3. I have no words for this atrocity. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 11:14:31 AM EDT
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Some people are alive simply because people like us haven't met them yet.
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Posted: 9/3/2004 11:24:41 AM EDT
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[Feinstein] I spy with my little eye a consipicuously protruding pistol grip. How un-sporting! [/Feinstein] Best of luck to our Russian brother in arms there. - BG EDIT: I don't have children, and I can't begin to understand what parents are going through. But I agree with Spade... I'll turn a blind eye to whatever Russia chooses to do. God bless the families of the victims. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 11:25:21 AM EDT
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FNC just reported, citing ITAR/TASS that the last terrorists in the basement of the school have either surrendered or been overpowered and captured.
I wonder about that, no the usual terrorist MO |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 11:37:35 AM EDT
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Guys/Gals,
I have lost it at work. I was sitting here trying to kill some time before I head home and now I have tears streaming down my face. Those pictures are searing into my memory. Especially that poor lady stroking the head of her dead child - looking to be the same age as one of my three daughters. It's making me feel ill. What has this world come to? Those beautiful, innocent, young people - killed by satans angels. That's what these Islamic extremists are. Followers of the Devil. Is this the beginning of the end? Is Christ going to make his grand re-entrance shortly? If so, I say bring it on Jesus, am I fully prepared to battle these demons with you. I am rambling now - sad, sick, angry - I need to go home and hold my girls. 10-42 |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 11:49:55 AM EDT
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The day will come when we will say the name of the true enemy in this fight.
It just a matter of how much of the blood of children we have to see before we can bring ourselves to do it openly. |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 12:07:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/3/2004 12:41:51 PM EDT
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I keep hearing over and over that Islam is not the enemy here. For many years I agreed with that statement. But the more time goes by, the more I am starting to see that maybe Islam IS the enemy of us and every non-Islamic nation in the world.
If you don't believe me, look at the following example: In the US, we too have our terrorist groups. The KKK comes to mind. The KKK claims to do what they do on behalf of Christianity. Yet what has the public in this nation done? The American public and Christians have condemned this group and hold nothing but contempt for them and their ways. When they rally or commit an act of terrorism, the public doesn't cheer them. Instead, they rise in a great mass to denounce them. Now take these terrorists from Islamic regions. Use Al-Qaida or Hezbollah for example. They commit their acts of death and destruction in the name of their religion also. Yet how does their public react? They cheer in the streets! They don't come out in force mad as hell to denounce these attacks. Those who don't show public support remain silent. What message does that send? It tells me that if they don't publicly support it, they at least do so privately. That's the difference between them and us. That's the difference between Christianity and Islam. I've tried to type this post in the rage I'm feeling while being as respectable as possible to those of the Islamic faith. I also hope to avoid causing any trouble here and to avoid conflict with the CoC. But I have to say my above comments are just what I feel. To me, it's as clear as day. And I will voice my opinion because deep in my heart I feel that I am right in saying what I've said. Until Islam denounces such acts I will always feel the religion as a whole is largely to blame and at fault. If the terror conducted by the radical Islamists comes from a small minority as they claim, then where is the voice of the majority? That is why I feel the way I do. -CH |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 12:52:28 PM EDT
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If this is true, that place is more "free" than where I live. Here, doing that would get you gunned down by the po-po without a second thought, and it would fly just fine "while we regret the fact that a person who was not involved lost his life, we can't have a civilian running around with a rifle, he was a danger to everyone in the area". |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 12:53:45 PM EDT
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Maybe I am way off here, but aren't the Chechans predominantly muslim? |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 1:02:19 PM EDT
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The whole thing makes me sick. How many atrocities are we going to tolerate?
In a street fight against someone who is bent on killing you, you don't "hold back" because picking up a ball bat and knocking the agressors head clean off with it "isn't fair". It may not be fair but you do it anyway because you MUST win the fight! WHAT IS SO HARD ABOUT THIS? I hope to God that the civilized people of the world WAKE UP! P.S. THIS IS WHY REELECTING G .W. BUSH IS SO IMPORTANT! |
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Posted: 9/3/2004 1:04:45 PM EDT
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Fear not, according to unnamed sources Senator Fineswine is expected to hold a news conference later today, where she will announce her office is immediately taking steps to insure this type of tragedy will never occur in our schools. Said one source, "We've already located an Arabic translator, now it's just a matter of getting the new signs printed up and installed at school entrances."
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Posted: 9/3/2004 1:06:55 PM EDT
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Off CP
Apparently three tangos were captured and are being "worked with", which hopefully means torture of some kind or another. |
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