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It is actually the same tripe, but interepeted differently by the pwople listening. |
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Which version bible, which version koran? <lol>. |
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This allah fellow sounds alot like a goa'uld. A false god demanding subservience and tribute to earn his love.
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We know what we're talking about. The God who specifically mandated in the Torah that gentile strangers in Israel be subject to the same laws and receive the same justice as Israelites did not thereafter establish dhimmitude (second-class status for non-Muslims) in the Koran. The God who inspired the Bible did not thereafter screw up his genealogy and identify Miriam, the sister of Moses, and Mary, the mother of Jesus, as the same person. No one disputes that Muslims claim that Allah is Yahweh. They're lying or misguided. |
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How in the fuck is this not treasonous??? Is CNN not owned by the US?? How is it possible that they are allowed in there? They should be shot as traitors. |
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Sorry, but I don't buy that delusional bilge. I know the One whom I serve, and allah bears no resemblance to Him. |
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Post from hielo:
My Goodness! Haven't we been through this before, Class? All right, I see that some of you must have been slumbering all over yourselves when this was discussed. There is ONLY ONE 'VERSION' OF THE BIBLE. There are MANY TRANSLATIONS of that ONE VERSION. There is actually only one VERSION of the Koran, as well, and there are NO authoritative 'translations' of the Koran - only the original Arabic 'translation' is considered authoritative. Now, it also has been translated into many different languages, but none are considered 'authoritative.' Now, it's nap time. Go to sleep! Eric The(SchoolMarmInHisSpareTime)Hun |
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Very good question. I think you already know the answer. The Muslims are looking for an excuse to incite the general population. They want us to attack their "holiest" sites because that will increase their recruits. Pathetic, I know, but it seems to work over there. |
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Hence the crescent moon on Saudi flag? Mohammed recycled (as you so eloquently put it) many things for his religion, even changing it when he wanted to marry more than is allotment of wives. If you read the bio of Mohammed, he always was peaceful until he had enough forces to war against those who disagreed with him. Check it out . . . that's why I get worried when people talk about it being a peaceful religion. Only until they are able to take over, I think we have several examples in the mid-east already of what happens when a muslim government takes over. |
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works for me. |
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Yep. Reading the history of Islam, that is the cycle. They expand/conquer when they are able, and when they are too weak they make nice. Then when they are strong again... And thus it goes. Islam, when strong, has never gotten along with its neighbors. |
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1. Burn it to the ground with every one of those rag wrappin' terrorist scumbags in it! 2. The Judeo/Christian God (or "God") is not the same as "Allah". |
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Hielo, don't inject truth into the debate. Every good Christian here KNOWS that muslims worship a moon god who has nothing to do with the REAL God they worship. |
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Bloodhound Gang. It was 90s music, wasn't it? |
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Apparently Al Sadr has chosen to go to hell early rather than make peace with the government. May the one true god of Abraham help the hands of those who sould speed him on his way.
apnews.myway.com/article/20040819/D84IAEVO0.html |
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That may, I mean it just might, possibly.....leave a bit of a mark. For some reason, I find those pics strangely arousing and pleasing to look at...... |
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Nope. The moon god is good ol' lucifer himself. Very pagan in its roots. |
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Anyone familiar with the 'Satanic Verses' from the Koran?
Do a 'Google' search on that subject, and learn something that caused the Ayatollah Komeini to put a fatwa on Author Salman Rushdie's bearded pate for even bringing the subject to the infidels' attention! It concerns the 'truce' that Mohammad made with the people of Mecca to permit them to continue in their worship of the moon god's three goddess-daughters... The Satanic Verses refers to a short passage of the Qur'an purported to have once existed by a small number of the historical records of Islam. The verses were perhaps first named "satanic verses" by Sir William Muir. Scholars of Islam disagree as to whether these verses ever actually existed, or if their history is a myth. Perhaps the most notable Muslim who accepted the truth of the Satanic verses account was the eminent Pakistani scholar Fazlur Rahman, formerly of the University of Chicago. Translated from Arabic, the Satanic Verses are "these are exalted females whose intercession is to be desired" in the 53rd sura of the Koran, Surat-An-Najm ("The Star"). Said to have been between verses 19-20, the females referred to were the goddesses al-Lat, Manah, and Uzza, who were three deities in pre-Islamic Arabia. According to customary explanation, Muhammad originally accepted these verses as part of the Koran. While the angel Jabril customarily told Muhammad to recite the sura revealed to him, Jabril then told him that the verses were actually a deception planted in his head from Satan, and they were therefore not the authentic word of Allah. The verses were later withdrawn and denounced as "satanic." These verses are commonly held to be a justification for polytheism, which was widespread in Arabia in the time of Muhammed. Alternative interpretations of these verses thereby holds that they were written by Muhammad to make his newly created faith more palatable to the masses, or that they were forged by polytheists to justify their continuing practice. To accept any history of the Satanic verses that includes Muhammad's authorship would require also accepting that Muhammad was less than infallible, which could be seen as threatening to the foundation of Islam. It is therefore more common among fundamentalist Muslims to either accept the forgery explanation, or to claim that the entire existence of the verses is a fabrication. The sura in question, with the excised or interpolated verse emphasized: "Near it is the Garden of Abode. Behold, the Lote-tree was shrouded (in mystery unspeakable!) (His) sight never swerved, nor did it go wrong! For truly did he see, of the Signs of his Lord, the Greatest! Have ye seen Lat. and 'Uzza, And another, the third (goddess), [Manah] "These are the exalted cranes (intermediaries) Whose intercession is to be hoped for. "What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female? Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair!" The events surrounding the Satanic Verses were documented by the four earliest biographers of Muhammad; Ibn Ishaq, Wakidi, Ibn Sa'd, and Tabari. From Wikipedia Eric The(TalkToTheHand,'CauseTheBeard'sNotListening!)Hun |
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OUCH! |
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Historically the Christian church was just as bad when it was in power. The big difference between the west and the muslim world is they still view their religion as a complete system that is equally applicable to government, science, and morality. For the most part we've moved past that and religion is not given the power it once had. |
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When has the Christian church ever had power? Oh, you probably mean the Catholic church. Ok, got it. |
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That's FIRE! You can't bring fire in a mosque! |
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To hear some of the people here talk, religion is the answer to everything and we should have never moved past that. |
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Fixed it. |
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I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case. |
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Geez guys...why not drop the religious prattle and just revel in the UTTER FUCKING DESTRUCTION being wreaked upon the raghead bastards holed up in the "shrine"!
Go get-em Devil Dogs! |
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On a lighter note, I was switching back and forth between Fox and CNN to see who had the latest and noticed this story.
Drunk Bear Now back to the "Their God, My God" debate... Edited cause I put the link in backwards. |
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You forgot this part O learned one
He was not burned at the stake because of his recantation. Had he persisted in his view that the earth moved around the sun he would have been tortured and burned at the stake. |
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I agree. I'm not exactly sure why, but I just feel better looking at those pics. |
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Nonsense, DINO!
If you knew the entire history of Galileo and the Church, you would know that his final 'inquisitor' was none other than Cardinal Maffeo Barberini, likewise from Florence, who had befriended and financially supported Galileo and his work during his early days. Cardinal Maffeo Barberini had, in the meantime, become Pope Urban VIII, and it very, very unlikely that Galileo would have been executed at this man's insistence! BTW, the Pope did not order Galileo to stop his research in the meanwhile, he only ordered that the research not be published. That's about as 'liberal' an attitude as one could find in Italy in those years. Eric The(Historical)Hun |
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Observation: The antichristians are desperate.
I now return you to your original thread on the Imam Ali Mosque... |
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Da Roof, Da Roof, Da Roof is on fire! Burn mutha fucka! Burn! |
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LOL!!! |
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Trying to decide which is better...
"hey Akmed! Watch this....." "you can't bring fire in the mosque!!! " |
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Clever, very clever |
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Just a couple points. Galileo hardly got just a slap on the wrist, he was forced to denounce "truth." This is just as terrible a blow to liberty and personal freedom as anything done by the Clintons. Please do not try and put a happy face on it. Also the Dark Ages stagnated development across the board. People weren't punished for scientific advancements that may have contradicted church doctrine, they were afraid to even look for the answers in the first place. It was a terrible, shameful period of human history. The problem is currently Muslims are doing EXACTLY the same thing still. It's like they traded places with Dark Age Christians. |
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