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Link Posted: 1/31/2023 12:59:01 PM EDT
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It’s been 50 degrees here. Why y’all got our weather. God damn.
Link Posted: 1/31/2023 1:02:14 PM EDT
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What, in your opinion, should be the role of the
Federal government in responding to a winter storm
in Texas?  I'm glad for the fine work he does in the Senate.
And I'm glad he is able to take a vacations with his family.



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And I'm glad he is able to take a vacations with his family.


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Did Ted Cruz take off for Cancun yet?



"He should suffer with everyone else" - said everyone probably
Link Posted: 1/31/2023 1:15:53 PM EDT
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I thought you were in DFW.
Things are bad here. Freezing rain and sleet accumulating. A typical ice day.
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I used to be near TMS but now I'm up by the red river.
Link Posted: 1/31/2023 1:16:00 PM EDT
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Second wave is moving in from the West.
A big wave is still SW.
Link Posted: 1/31/2023 1:29:10 PM EDT
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in Texas?  I'm glad for the fine work he does in the Senate.
And I'm glad he is able to take a vacations with his family.


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Did Ted Cruz take off for Cancun yet?



"He should suffer with everyone else" - said everyone probably

My wife and I do this every year and the kids have asked "why do you and mom always take vacation when the weather gets crappy?"
Link Posted: 1/31/2023 1:33:24 PM EDT
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My wife and I do this every year and the kids have asked "why do you and mom always take vacation when the weather gets crappy?"
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What, in your opinion, should be the role of the
Federal government in responding to a winter storm
in Texas?  I'm glad for the fine work he does in the Senate.
And I'm glad he is able to take a vacations with his family.


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Did Ted Cruz take off for Cancun yet?



"He should suffer with everyone else" - said everyone probably

My wife and I do this every year and the kids have asked "why do you and mom always take vacation when the weather gets crappy?"


I visit my cabin in NM every year around Christmas winter weather is cool....

But not in a major city

Also my truck won't flick into 4wd, was working a month ago fun times
Link Posted: 1/31/2023 1:37:31 PM EDT
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I visit my cabin in NM every year around Christmas winter weather is cool....

But not in a major city

Also my truck won't flick into 4wd, was working a month ago fun times
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You do know he is a United States Senator I hope.
What, in your opinion, should be the role of the
Federal government in responding to a winter storm
in Texas?  I'm glad for the fine work he does in the Senate.
And I'm glad he is able to take a vacations with his family.


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Did Ted Cruz take off for Cancun yet?



"He should suffer with everyone else" - said everyone probably

My wife and I do this every year and the kids have asked "why do you and mom always take vacation when the weather gets crappy?"


I visit my cabin in NM every year around Christmas winter weather is cool....

But not in a major city

Also my truck won't flick into 4wd, was working a month ago fun times

We live no where near a city. I enjoy cold weather in the woods, fireplaces and spending my winters outdoors. The wife does not — she's 100% fair-weather Texan.
Link Posted: 1/31/2023 1:50:28 PM EDT
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You do know he is a United States Senator I hope.
What, in your opinion, should be the role of the
Federal government in responding to a winter storm
in Texas?  I'm glad for the fine work he does in the Senate.
And I'm glad he is able to take a vacations with his family.


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Did Ted Cruz take off for Cancun yet?



"He should suffer with everyone else" - said everyone probably

My wife and I do this every year and the kids have asked "why do you and mom always take vacation when the weather gets crappy?"


I visit my cabin in NM every year around Christmas winter weather is cool....

But not in a major city

Also my truck won't flick into 4wd, was working a month ago fun times

We live no where near a city. I enjoy cold weather in the woods, fireplaces and spending my winters outdoors. The wife does not — she's 100% fair-weather Texan.


I like it best with a good book, bourbon, and the fireplace going
Link Posted: 1/31/2023 1:51:35 PM EDT
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I’m stuck at the family property in SE OK.  Was supposed to return to work tomorrow. Oh darn. I’ll have to endure another couple of days of camping.
Link Posted: 1/31/2023 2:07:42 PM EDT
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They close down for just the idea of snow.
Link Posted: 1/31/2023 2:23:54 PM EDT
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They close down for just the idea of snow.


They loot grocery stores and get into fights over bread for such things too
Link Posted: 1/31/2023 3:13:23 PM EDT
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They close down for just the idea of snow.


Snow is not a problem, we just rarely get any significant snow.  What we do get is sleet, which sticks - we've gotten more than a half inch of sleet this morning.  B/c it'll be in the 40's in two days, we just hunker down for the once in a year ice storm.

I'd like to see you Yankees drive down here on a half inch of ice, on unsalted roads w/ no plows.
Link Posted: 1/31/2023 3:21:22 PM EDT
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Yep we have had one idiot go into a ditch and end up on its side. To further prove how dumb he is the idiot smashed a hole in his windshield to get out. He could have just stood up and opened the door.
Link Posted: 1/31/2023 3:22:21 PM EDT
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Snow is not a problem, we just rarely get any significant snow.  What we do get is sleet, which sticks - we've gotten more than a half inch of sleet this morning.  B/c it'll be in the 40's in two days, we just hunker down for the once in a year ice storm.

I'd like to see you Yankees drive down here on a half inch of ice, on unsalted roads w/ no plows.
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They close down for just the idea of snow.


Snow is not a problem, we just rarely get any significant snow.  What we do get is sleet, which sticks - we've gotten more than a half inch of sleet this morning.  B/c it'll be in the 40's in two days, we just hunker down for the once in a year ice storm.

I'd like to see you Yankees drive down here on a half inch of ice, on unsalted roads w/ no plows.


I think I saw a NY license plate on a vehicle upside down in the ditch earlier.....
Link Posted: 1/31/2023 3:22:29 PM EDT
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Since I've got the entire N Texas HTF in this thread, I'll invite y'all to one of the three gun shows we're having this weekend once the roads clear:

https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_8/620050_3-5-February-Waco-Azle-Mesquite-gun-shows-dinner-Sat-night.html

RebleYell will be coming down from Oklahoma Friday to set up in Mesquite, along w/ tacton, who also has a table - tacton deals in FN, Colt, & some PSA bits.  Last I saw he had a complete FN A2 upper, but he may have sold it.  RebleYell does medical kits, see him Saturday afternoon for dinner plans.

I'm going to zip down to Waco Friday afternoon to catch the Waco antique/C&R show that has more Winchesters & Colt SAAs per sq foot than Tulsa does.  It's a small show, IM me if you'd like a ride down & back.  I'll be set up in Azle for the weekend & will miss the ARFCOM dinner Sat night.

I try and keep the thread updated w/ all the shows from Abilene to Shreveport & the Red River to Waco, as far out as those dates have been published.  Generally we do dinner on Saturday nights w/ some dealers, usually in D/FW but sometimes as far afield as Longview.
Link Posted: 1/31/2023 3:24:17 PM EDT
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-11 , and loaded the stove and rack with locust.

You are correct,  I'll take this over ice storms.

Traveling and above ground utilities are screwed.
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Locust?
Link Posted: 1/31/2023 3:24:30 PM EDT
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Since I've got the entire N Texas HTF in this thread, I'll invite y'all to one of the three gun shows we're having this weekend once the roads clear:

https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_8/620050_3-5-February-Waco-Azle-Mesquite-gun-shows-dinner-Sat-night.html

RebleYell will be coming down from Oklahoma Friday to set up in Mesquite, along w/ tacton, who also has a table - tacton deals in FN, Colt, & some PSA bits.  Last I saw he had a complete FN A2 upper, but he may have sold it.  RebleYell does medical kits, see him Saturday afternoon for dinner plans.

I'm going to zip down to Waco Friday afternoon to catch the Waco antique/C&R show that has more Winchesters & Colt SAAs per sq foot than Tulsa does.  It's a small show, IM me if you'd like a ride down & back.  I'll be set up in Azle for the weekend & will miss the ARFCOM dinner Sat night.

I try and keep the thread updated w/ all the shows from Abilene to Shreveport & the Red River to Waco, as far out as those dates have been published.  Generally we do dinner on Saturday nights w/ some dealers, usually in D/FW but sometimes as far afield as Longview.
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Where is the dinner at?  I have missed all of them here as I'm usually working or traveling or its 70miles across the metro from me which blows
Link Posted: 1/31/2023 4:04:49 PM EDT
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Round 2 is moving into the Western and Southwestern portions.

Time to break out the Flagpole hill stuff

Link Posted: 1/31/2023 4:08:02 PM EDT
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You do know he is a United States Senator I hope.
What, in your opinion, should be the role of the
Federal government in responding to a winter storm
in Texas?  I'm glad for the fine work he does in the Senate.
And I'm glad he is able to take a vacations with his family.


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Did Ted Cruz take off for Cancun yet?



"He should suffer with everyone else" - said everyone probably


I see why he left, but damn it was a bad look at the time.  Ted Cruz is a fantastic Senator, I voted for him in the '16 Primary, and he has the knack of stepping on his dick with football cleats at the worst possible time (Carly Fiorina, perpetuating the whole insurrection schtick, etc...)
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They loot grocery stores and get into fights over bread for such things too
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Doesn’t Dallas close down for 1” of snow?


They close down for just the idea of snow.


They loot grocery stores and get into fights over bread for such things too


Hey, our ferals loot and fight as a result of who they are.  They don't need reasons.
Link Posted: 1/31/2023 4:22:33 PM EDT
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Hey, our ferals loot and fight as a result of who they are.  They don't need reasons.
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They close down for just the idea of snow.


They loot grocery stores and get into fights over bread for such things too


Hey, our ferals loot and fight as a result of who they are.  They don't need reasons.



The Morlocks were progressives ?
Link Posted: 1/31/2023 4:24:04 PM EDT
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Bobcat came through our backyard around 12:30 while I was making some hambean soup. Normally don't see them until around dusk but I guess the ice has him movin' about
Link Posted: 1/31/2023 4:25:10 PM EDT
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I see why he left, but damn it was a bad look at the time.  Ted Cruz is a fantastic Senator, I voted for him in the '16 Primary, and he has the knack of stepping on his dick with football cleats at the worst possible time (Carly Fiorina, perpetuating the whole insurrection schtick, etc...)
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You do know he is a United States Senator I hope.
What, in your opinion, should be the role of the
Federal government in responding to a winter storm
in Texas?  I'm glad for the fine work he does in the Senate.
And I'm glad he is able to take a vacations with his family.


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Did Ted Cruz take off for Cancun yet?



"He should suffer with everyone else" - said everyone probably


I see why he left, but damn it was a bad look at the time.  Ted Cruz is a fantastic Senator, I voted for him in the '16 Primary, and he has the knack of stepping on his dick with football cleats at the worst possible time (Carly Fiorina, perpetuating the whole insurrection schtick, etc...)


Oh yeah the optics are terrible but that's also cuz he's got his kids in private school like every other politician and they have way different breaks.
Link Posted: 1/31/2023 4:25:47 PM EDT
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Hey, our ferals loot and fight as a result of who they are.  They don't need reasons.
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Doesn’t Dallas close down for 1” of snow?


They close down for just the idea of snow.


They loot grocery stores and get into fights over bread for such things too


Hey, our ferals loot and fight as a result of who they are.  They don't need reasons.


HEB was as empty as i've ever seen it.  decided to restock for the next couple of days
Link Posted: 1/31/2023 4:43:19 PM EDT
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Why does the DFW area rarely get SNOW?  it seems like its almost always just fucking ICE.
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I saw more freezing rain in the 3.5 years I lived in Abilene than in My 64 years I've lived in Montana.
You have My sympathy.
Good luck if you are forced out into that crap.
Link Posted: 1/31/2023 4:47:29 PM EDT
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I was putting out some last minute hay for the cows yesterday in the sleet and it was thundering.  It was weird.
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Locust?
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-11 , and loaded the stove and rack with locust.

You are correct,  I'll take this over ice storms.

Traveling and above ground utilities are screwed.



Locust?

The 4" thorny variety?
Link Posted: 1/31/2023 5:19:33 PM EDT
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Ice stoce Storm Warning from WED 6:00 AM CST until THU 6:00 AM CST
National Weather Service says there is an extraordinary threat to life or property in Jack County, Wise County, Denton County, Palo Pinto County, Parker County, Tarrant County, Erath County, Hood County, Somervell County, Johnson County, Comanche County.

This alert comes from the National Weather Service in Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas. It was issued at 14:16 PM on January 31, 2023 CST. It expires at 06:00 AM on February 2, 2023 CST.rm warning, check your locals.

Link Posted: 1/31/2023 5:22:37 PM EDT
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I'm over Canada on the way to DFW. Looks like I might need a hotel for a couple of days before I can get home
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The hotels at the airport aren't bad.
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The hotels at the airport aren't bad.
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I'm over Canada on the way to DFW. Looks like I might need a hotel for a couple of days before I can get home

The hotels at the airport aren't bad.



Honestly, if you go slow, it's not too bad right now. It's after this crap refrezes when things get really bad...
Link Posted: 1/31/2023 5:39:39 PM EDT
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@Sethalarian - just poured some of that Old Bushmills you gave me in with some Coke & ice into the Constitutional glass someone here gave to me.  Here's to you & Meggars!

Just defrosted the outside faucets w/ FW_wife's hairdryer, have em running, not dripping now.  Dripping doesn't cut it, obviously.
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Where is the dinner at?  I have missed all of them here as I'm usually working or traveling or its 70miles across the metro from me which blows
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Quoted:  Since I've got the entire N Texas HTF in this thread, I'll invite y'all to one of the three gun shows we're having this weekend once the roads clear:

https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_8/620050_3-5-February-Waco-Azle-Mesquite-gun-shows-dinner-Sat-night.html

RebleYell will be coming down from Oklahoma Friday to set up in Mesquite, along w/ tacton, who also has a table - tacton deals in FN, Colt, & some PSA bits.  Last I saw he had a complete FN A2 upper, but he may have sold it.  RebleYell does medical kits, see him Saturday afternoon for dinner plans.

I'm going to zip down to Waco Friday afternoon to catch the Waco antique/C&R show that has more Winchesters & Colt SAAs per sq foot than Tulsa does.  It's a small show, IM me if you'd like a ride down & back.  I'll be set up in Azle for the weekend & will miss the ARFCOM dinner Sat night.

I try and keep the thread updated w/ all the shows from Abilene to Shreveport & the Red River to Waco, as far out as those dates have been published.  Generally we do dinner on Saturday nights w/ some dealers, usually in D/FW but sometimes as far afield as Longview.


Where is the dinner at?  I have missed all of them here as I'm usually working or traveling or its 70miles across the metro from me which blows


Dinner is wherever Mrs RebleYell says it's at, which is why you should check w/ RebleYell in the afternoon at the gun show.  It's always close by the show, right afterwards.  She's taken a liking to Rodeo Goat in Fort Worth, which is the only place I skip b/c she gets handicap parking and the rest of us have to fend for ourselves on the street.
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  • Colder weather than most of our buildings/homes are built for (we're built for hot weather).

  • 1-3" of ice on the road, with enough road salt in the state, that a county or two in NJ would go through in a week.

  • Californians and New Yorkers/Jersians thinking they can drive just as well here as back on their snow-covered icy roads.

  • Idiot drivers aren't limited to just the I95.

  • We have more overpasses than most states.





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  • Colder weather than most of our buildings/homes are built for (we're built for hot weather).

  • 1-3" of ice on the road, with enough road salt in the state, that a county or two in NJ would go through in a week.

  • Californians and New Yorkers/Jersians thinking they can drive just as well here as back on their snow-covered icy roads.

  • Idiot drivers aren't limited to just the I95.

  • We have more overpasses than most states.








The overpasses will get a lot. The main road will stay just warm enough to not be icy, but the overpass will freeze up. I've seen lots of accidents where the vehicles go in the ditch just after the bridge. They almost make it.
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Ice stoce Storm Warning from WED 6:00 AM CST until THU 6:00 AM CST
National Weather Service says there is an extraordinary threat to life or property in Jack County, Wise County, Denton County, Palo Pinto County, Parker County, Tarrant County, Erath County, Hood County, Somervell County, Johnson County, Comanche County.

This alert comes from the National Weather Service in Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas. It was issued at 14:16 PM on January 31, 2023 CST. It expires at 06:00 AM on February 2, 2023 CST.rm warning, check your locals.

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Snowing/sleeting again already in N Johnson county in the SW side of DFW
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I think the airport is grounded
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Dinner is wherever Mrs RebleYell says it's at, which is why you should check w/ RebleYell in the afternoon at the gun show.  It's always close by the show, right afterwards.  She's taken a liking to Rodeo Goat in Fort Worth, which is the only place I skip b/c she gets handicap parking and the rest of us have to fend for ourselves on the street.
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https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_8/620050_3-5-February-Waco-Azle-Mesquite-gun-shows-dinner-Sat-night.html

RebleYell will be coming down from Oklahoma Friday to set up in Mesquite, along w/ tacton, who also has a table - tacton deals in FN, Colt, & some PSA bits.  Last I saw he had a complete FN A2 upper, but he may have sold it.  RebleYell does medical kits, see him Saturday afternoon for dinner plans.

I'm going to zip down to Waco Friday afternoon to catch the Waco antique/C&R show that has more Winchesters & Colt SAAs per sq foot than Tulsa does.  It's a small show, IM me if you'd like a ride down & back.  I'll be set up in Azle for the weekend & will miss the ARFCOM dinner Sat night.

I try and keep the thread updated w/ all the shows from Abilene to Shreveport & the Red River to Waco, as far out as those dates have been published.  Generally we do dinner on Saturday nights w/ some dealers, usually in D/FW but sometimes as far afield as Longview.


Where is the dinner at?  I have missed all of them here as I'm usually working or traveling or its 70miles across the metro from me which blows


Dinner is wherever Mrs RebleYell says it's at, which is why you should check w/ RebleYell in the afternoon at the gun show.  It's always close by the show, right afterwards.  She's taken a liking to Rodeo Goat in Fort Worth, which is the only place I skip b/c she gets handicap parking and the rest of us have to fend for ourselves on the street.


Ah well from Azle that wouldn't be too bad ish for me!
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I'm hearing about 1 plane per hour heading into dfw.
(Those landing on the west side anyways)
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@Sethalarian - just poured some of that Old Bushmills you gave me in with some Coke & ice into the Constitutional glass someone here gave to me.  Here's to you & Meggars!

Just defrosted the outside faucets w/ FW_wife's hairdryer, have em running, not dripping now.  Dripping doesn't cut it, obviously.
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I bought some mechanics lights at HD and put low watt LED bulbs them and wrapped them with towels on my faucets and that got me through the teens we had not to long ago. Almost no heat but enough to keep them from freezing.
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A few things for our Southern friends to know. I've never seen studded tires once in Minnesota.  Zero. Rarely does someone have snow tires, I'd say 98% of the cars on the roads here have all season tires.  There is no such thing as Southern ice. We get ice storms here too. Probably more than you do. Black ice is not what you call black ice. Black ice is formed at intersection from idling car exhaust.  This can happen on clear cool days like today when it is -10 before wind chill. Black ice does not fall from the sky, that is just ice.

I fully understand why a winter storm causes major chaos down there. There is not the infrastructure for mass fast plowing and salting.  When it snows here we have way more plows to deal with it. But, it seems like there is basically no money spent down there at all. It is not like a snow storm is a once in a lifetime event down in the Dallas area.  It looks like snow and below freezing is an annual event. Plowing and salting a couple of the main interstates shouldn't be THAT difficult.  I can certainly see side roads and highways being a mess for days.

There is still no excuse for the absolute shit drivers from Texas though. I see them driving terrible in the summer with their flashers on during a sprinkle.
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In addition to cities not being really prepared for it (though the DFW area usually gets some snow every winter), the inhabitants aren't prepared for it.  No Hakipellitas or however you spell it, no snow tires, certainly no studded snow tires or chains usually.  You're lucky if most people have within-wear guidelines M+S tires.   Moreover, there's plenty of idiots who think they can drive in snow/ice, the same way they drive in the much more often torrential downpours.  

All adds up to staying at home.  In Houston, we often don't even have sand, the once every couple years we get snow/ice.  The giant Belt and Grand Parkway onramps look like skating rinks.  No good.

EDIT:  Pretty sure I got caught in the one Findsman is talking about.  Nothing like creeping at literally 5-10 MPH on the causeway into South Dallas on 45...and still hearing your tires occasionally slip.  Some poor bastard was towing a pontoon boat behind a non-snow/ice optimized 2500.  I still remember the sounds his tires made as they parted company with traction, and he proceeded on an all-wheel straight slide towards the right end lanes...


A few things for our Southern friends to know. I've never seen studded tires once in Minnesota.  Zero. Rarely does someone have snow tires, I'd say 98% of the cars on the roads here have all season tires.  There is no such thing as Southern ice. We get ice storms here too. Probably more than you do. Black ice is not what you call black ice. Black ice is formed at intersection from idling car exhaust.  This can happen on clear cool days like today when it is -10 before wind chill. Black ice does not fall from the sky, that is just ice.

I fully understand why a winter storm causes major chaos down there. There is not the infrastructure for mass fast plowing and salting.  When it snows here we have way more plows to deal with it. But, it seems like there is basically no money spent down there at all. It is not like a snow storm is a once in a lifetime event down in the Dallas area.  It looks like snow and below freezing is an annual event. Plowing and salting a couple of the main interstates shouldn't be THAT difficult.  I can certainly see side roads and highways being a mess for days.

There is still no excuse for the absolute shit drivers from Texas though. I see them driving terrible in the summer with their flashers on during a sprinkle.



Minnesota outlawed studded tires in the late 1960s or early 1970s. Studded tire statute
The roads were being chewed up by studs.  I vaguely remember they were legal only during the winter. I think there was an exact season where they were allowed.

Minnesota first snow always has it's increase in accidents from people forgetting how to drive in it, newcomers to the north, and visitors. A friend of a friend grew up in Minnesota, and was visiting a warm weather state when they had a freak snow/ice storm.

The friend's friend went out to the store to get something, and had no problem stopping/starting/turning. They turned around and went home when they realized how dangerous it was for them. They were stopped at a 4-way stop sign when cars slid through the intersection in front of them, and then a car slid by them into the intersection. Just because you can drive in bad weather, doesn't mean you are safe from others.
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The 4" thorny variety?
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The thorns aren't 4 inches long up North, but maybe 2 inches. It is a "weed tree" that has energy density somewhat less than stuff like oak. It is extremely hard and stands dead a long time once dried out.  They don't get huge so often no splitting involved to get it into a stove.
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The overpasses will get a lot. The main road will stay just warm enough to not be icy, but the overpass will freeze up. I've seen lots of accidents where the vehicles go in the ditch just after the bridge. They almost make it.
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All the wrecks I saw this am were on the backside of overpasses.
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Probably this stuff:

https://smallfarms.cornell.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Blacklocust5-1x7vgzl.jpg

The thorns aren't 4 inches long up North, but maybe 2 inches. It is a "weed tree" that has energy density somewhat less than stuff like oak. It is extremely hard and stands dead a long time once dried out.  They don't get huge so often no splitting involved to get it into a stove.
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I believe he was referencing the diameter of the trunks
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I think the airport is grounded
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Nope, still moving. Inbounds are pretty delayed...

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Honestly, if you go slow, it's not too bad right now. It's after this crap refrezes when things get really bad...
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I'm over Canada on the way to DFW. Looks like I might need a hotel for a couple of days before I can get home

The hotels at the airport aren't bad.



Honestly, if you go slow, it's not too bad right now. It's after this crap refrezes when things get really bad...

Yep. This was mostly sleet. It has  little texture to it until it goes smoothe. We have about an inch in North Dallas. Tonight and tomorrow has freezing rain predicted. That sucks much worse. Trees and power lines will come down.
A neighbors house is on fire. 4 trucks out there. Not sure what happened.
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Ah well from Azle that wouldn't be too bad ish for me!
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Quoted:  Since I've got the entire N Texas HTF in this thread, I'll invite y'all to one of the three gun shows we're having this weekend once the roads clear:

https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_8/620050_3-5-February-Waco-Azle-Mesquite-gun-shows-dinner-Sat-night.html

RebleYell will be coming down from Oklahoma Friday to set up in Mesquite, along w/ tacton, who also has a table - tacton deals in FN, Colt, & some PSA bits.  Last I saw he had a complete FN A2 upper, but he may have sold it.  RebleYell does medical kits, see him Saturday afternoon for dinner plans.

I'm going to zip down to Waco Friday afternoon to catch the Waco antique/C&R show that has more Winchesters & Colt SAAs per sq foot than Tulsa does.  It's a small show, IM me if you'd like a ride down & back.  I'll be set up in Azle for the weekend & will miss the ARFCOM dinner Sat night.

I try and keep the thread updated w/ all the shows from Abilene to Shreveport & the Red River to Waco, as far out as those dates have been published.  Generally we do dinner on Saturday nights w/ some dealers, usually in D/FW but sometimes as far afield as Longview.


Where is the dinner at?  I have missed all of them here as I'm usually working or traveling or its 70miles across the metro from me which blows


Dinner is wherever Mrs RebleYell says it's at, which is why you should check w/ RebleYell in the afternoon at the gun show.  It's always close by the show, right afterwards.  She's taken a liking to Rodeo Goat in Fort Worth, which is the only place I skip b/c she gets handicap parking and the rest of us have to fend for ourselves on the street.


Ah well from Azle that wouldn't be too bad ish for me!


Come see me at the Azle show next weekend.  No dinner this side of the 'plex this week.
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Dinner is wherever Mrs RebleYell says it's at, which is why you should check w/ RebleYell in the afternoon at the gun show.  It's always close by the show, right afterwards.  She's taken a liking to Rodeo Goat in Fort Worth, which is the only place I skip b/c she gets handicap parking and the rest of us have to fend for ourselves on the street.
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The Stock Show is still kicking you know.
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Probably this stuff:

https://smallfarms.cornell.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Blacklocust5-1x7vgzl.jpg

The thorns aren't 4 inches long up North, but maybe 2 inches. It is a "weed tree" that has energy density somewhat less than stuff like oak. It is extremely hard and stands dead a long time once dried out.  They don't get huge so often no splitting involved to get it into a stove.
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The 4" thorny variety?
Probably this stuff:

https://smallfarms.cornell.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Blacklocust5-1x7vgzl.jpg

The thorns aren't 4 inches long up North, but maybe 2 inches. It is a "weed tree" that has energy density somewhat less than stuff like oak. It is extremely hard and stands dead a long time once dried out.  They don't get huge so often no splitting involved to get it into a stove.

It makes good sign and picnic table posts. I worked for the Indiana Forest Service for a year. Some of the thorns on the locust there got over 5". They last a long time as well. Tennis shoes in the areas I worked were forbidden. We had to wear steel shank/toed boots.
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I believe he was referencing the diameter of the trunks
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Probably this stuff:

https://smallfarms.cornell.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Blacklocust5-1x7vgzl.jpg

The thorns aren't 4 inches long up North, but maybe 2 inches. It is a "weed tree" that has energy density somewhat less than stuff like oak. It is extremely hard and stands dead a long time once dried out.  They don't get huge so often no splitting involved to get it into a stove.


I believe he was referencing the diameter of the trunks

No. Thorns on the trunk and limbs. Google it.
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