Yeah, it won't be the Russians.  

Something along this line exactly.

Meh, what's a few billion between friends

Wonderful in theory, and we've tried in whole, and in part, to do things like this in the past, but bad actors don't want stability if it means the USA is at the top of world hierarchy.  Regardless of security guarantees and sanctions, however brutal they may seem at ratification ... nobody has the stomach to enforce such things when the rubber hits the road.

Give up all claims on Kashmir and create a 20 mile wide DMZ—ALL on Pok-ee-stani property.

To do list:

1.) Re-take US Government. Nuremberg type trials.
2.) Start drilling and pumping.
3.) Seal Southern border.
4.) Bring all European based forces stateside.
5.) Recondition all available B-1 bombers in the boneyard.
6.) MIRV the fuck out of all ICBM’s—both ground and sea based.

That’s a start.

We're going to need a bigger dumpster.

It's not if but when one of these shitbholes over there get a nuke and detonate it. They do not value life. They value death and dying for Allah

Pakistan EE account for hard currency.

I call this "thrashing":

Arab loans dependent on meeting politically destabilizing IMF conditions 1/20/2023
With no effort by Pakistan to meet the required conditions, now even the IMF is delaying the approval of its 24th loan. On the other hand, Saudi and United Arab Emirates (UAE) have also warned Pakistan that unlike in the past, it will not get everything for free.

According to a report, the government of Pakistan had sought help from the IMF, but the IMF had placed a condition that the prices of petrol and diesel must be hiked further.

Several Arab nations have sent a message to Pakistan Prime Minister Shehbaz Shaif and the new Pakistan Army chief General Asim Munir, that if Pakistan wants to improve its economic condition, it will have to implement reforms and see them through to the end, reports Al Arabiya Post.

Foreign shipping lines may stop services for cash-strapped Pakistan 1/20/2023
The ship agents have forewarned the cash-strapped Pakistani government that all export cargoes could come to a halt as foreign shipping lines are considering stopping their services for the country after banks stopped remitting freight charges to them due to a lack of dollar availability...

Pakistan Ship's Agents Association (PSAA) chairman Abdul Rauf warned Finance Minister Ishaq Dar through a letter....  "If the international trade is stopped the economic situation will worsen," the association warned, adding that the foreign shipping lines are already considering winding up their services in Pakistan due to reduced cargo volumes...

Meanwhile, the Petroleum Division has warned the central bank that the stocks of petroleum products may dry up as banks are refusing to open and confirm Letters of Credit (LCs) for imports.

Lights out in Pakistan as energy-saving move backfires 1/23/2023
Most of Pakistan was left without power Monday as an energy-saving measure by the government backfired. The outage spread panic and raised questions about the cash-strapped government's handling of the country's economic crisis.

It all started when electricity was turned off during low usage hours overnight to conserve fuel across the country, officials said, leaving technicians unable to boot up the system all at once after daybreak. The outage was reminiscent of a massive blackout in January 2021, attributed at the time to a technical fault in Pakistan's power generation and distribution system.

Many major cities, including the capital of Islamabad, and remote towns and villages across Pakistan were without electricity for more than 12 hours. As the electricity failure continued into Monday night, authorities deployed additional police at markets around the country to provide security.

Officials announced late Monday that power was restored in many cities, 15 hours after the outage was reported.

Earlier, the nationwide electricity breakdown left many in this country of some 220 million people without drinking water as pumps powered by electricity failed to work. Schools, hospitals, factories and shops were without power amid the harsh winter weather....


Pakistan arrests senior leader from ex-PM Imran Khan's party 1/25/23
Police in Pakistan early Wednesday arrested a senior leader of former Prime Minister Imran Khan's political party on charges of threatening the chief of the elections oversight body and other government officials.

The arrest of Fawad Chaudhry, an outspoken critic of the government, is a major setback for the party, Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf, in which he serves as vice president. The party quickly condemned the arrest and demanded his release.

Khan also denounced the arrest, claiming on Twitter that it left no doubt that Pakistan has become a place "devoid of rule of law." He urged followers to "stand up for our fundamental rights" to prevent the country from drifting toward "a point of no return."


Imran Khan interview, fears assassination by current government after Chaudhry arrest 1/25/2023
Pakistan's ousted prime minister Imran Khan said he is confident of returning to power this year, and would back a continued role for the International Monetary Fund to prop up the economy and stave off a growing risk of a debt default.

The former cricket star, who was removed from office in a confidence vote last year, said in an interview that he expects to win a majority when elections are held   likely some time after August. He said he is preparing a "radical" plan to shore up an economy that he predicts will be in even worse shape by then...

"We will have to make policies like never before in our country," Mr Khan said. "We fear a Sri Lanka-type situation,"...

Mr Khan said he enjoyed an excellent relationship with former US president Donald Trump, but that ties deteriorated under his successor.

"It's only when Joe Biden came along that for some reason I found that there was reluctance there," he said, adding that he believes that happened because the US needed someone to blame for its exit from Afghanistan...

Mr Khan said he believes national elections may be rigged to keep him out of power. He referred to his removal from office as "regime-change," and said that Mr Sharif's governing coalition and some members of the country's establishment are "scared" because "they were part of the regime change. We know exactly who was responsible for it".

Pakistan's government spokesman and the army's media wing did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Khan's remarks.

Mr Khan, who has heavy security outside his residence, said he still believes his life is in danger. He has blamed Prime Minister Sharif and an intelligence officer for the attack. Both have denied the claim.

"Right now I'm afraid, I have powerful enemies," said Mr Khan. "The entire political status quo is against me."

Khan's Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf party said early on Wednesday that there were reports circulating that the former premier could get arrested. News reports said a senior party leader Fawad Chaudhry had been detained by security officials.

Any chance of getting a bigger image?

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Nuclear Islamic power ready to collapse in social chaos and scholars on GD are asking who cares.

Nuke close out sale to Ukraine?

290 Nukes at one-three million each might keep the lights on for a few months.

Pakistani Rupee plummets 14.5% in three days, foreign reserves fall to $3.7 billion

Cumulatively, it has slumped by Rs39.21 (or 14.50%) in the three days to date compared to Wednesday's close at Rs230.89.

"The wide gap between demand and supply of the greenback in the system pushed importers to pay Rs270 per dollar," KASB Securities Head of Research Yousuf Rahman said while talking to The Express Tribune.

He added the rupee was expected to "test the level of 270". "It might maintain the downward streak." However, the local rupee is expected to stabilise at around Rs265 this week, he maintained.

The gap between the demand and supply of greenback has widened significantly due to the low availability of the dollars in the system, he explained.

The country's foreign exchange reserves have depleted to an alarming level of $3.7 billion. They are barely enough for three weeks import requirement. The reserves stood at $20 billion in August 2021.

On the other hand, Pakistan's import payment requirements stand at around $5 billion a month. Besides, the nation is due to repay $7 billion in foreign debt in the next 5 months (Feb-Jun 2023).

The government reinstated the market-based exchange rate mechanism to win back the IMF's $7 billion loan programme.

The revival of the programme is expected to help convince multilateral and bilateral creditors to lend a fresh $3-4 billion over the next couple of months.

The new debt inflows would help the government to overcome the shortfall of US dollars in the system and hopefully narrowly escape default on international payments.


More than 40 dead, mostly police and security services, as crowded police HQ mosque is partially collapsed by suicide bombing; Taliban group suspected after ceasefire ends
ETA 62 killed, Taliban claims responsibility

A suicide bomber struck Monday inside a mosque packed with Pakistani police in the northwest city of Peshawar, killing more than 40 people and wounding scores more, officials said. The bomber detonated a suicide vest as worshipers   including many police and other security forces   were praying inside.

At least 44 people were killed and 157 injured in the blast, Mohammed Asim, a spokesperson for the Lady Reading Hospital in Peshawar, told CBS News' Maria Usman. There was fear the death toll could still rise, as many of those hospitalized were brought in with critical injuries.

The bomber struck during early afternoon prayers at a mosque in Peshawar's "Police Lines" area, a secured zone within the sprawling city where the regional Police Secretariat is located, along with apartments housing officers and other security staff....

There was no claim of responsibility for the bombing in Peshawar, the capital of the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province on Pakistan's border with Afghanistan, but as CBS News' Sami Yousafzai reports, the Tehreek-e-Taliban-e-Pakistan terror group, the Pakistani Taliban commonly known by the abbreviation TTP, recently broke off peace talks with the country's government and relaunched military operations against state security forces.

The Pakistani group is believed to have gained strength over the last couple years, since the Afghan Taliban retook control of the neighboring country in August 2021.  The TTP are a separate group to the Afghan Taliban, but they are close allies.

A Pakistani security officer who spoke to CBS News on the condition of anonymity said the country's armed forces had made significant strides against the TTP but that the group had managed to regain operational strength by operating across the Afghan border, enabling it to "start attacking soft targets in Pakistan."

The official said TTP leaders were orchestrating attacks inside Pakistan from Afghan soil, and said it was the "duty and responsibility" of the Afghan Taliban regime ruling the neighboring nation to prevent such operations.

A survivor of Monday's attack, 38-year-old police officer Meena Gul, said he was inside the mosque when the bomb went off. He said he didn't know how he survived unhurt. He could hear cries and screams after the bomb exploded, he said. Gul said there were more than 150 worshippers inside the mosque when the bomb went off.

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Shouldn’t have given all that money to the Taliban.

Foreign exchange reserves fall to $3.1 billion (The government has been eyeing the seizure of another $8 billion or so in USD privately held by commercial banks, which would keep imports moving for a while but wreck the banks)

Brain drain as 800,000 Pakistanis, mostly young educated people, left the country to live abroad last year, twice as many as 2018

NPR - 12,000 shipping containers are sitting unpaid for and factories shutting down; end of US Afghanistan logistics blackmail sharply reduced leverage with the IMF and World Bank; after mosque bombing kills 101 Gov't criticized for secret deal that relocated Taliban to Pakistan

A senior port official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the matter's sensitivity, told NPR last week that 12,000 shipping containers filled with cargo had piled up in Pakistani ports by Jan. 23 because banks were refusing to issue letters of credit to clear their goods. Those letters effectively authorize Pakistan's state bank to forward payments in U.S. dollars.

"More than 10 million traders are on the verge of financial and economic ruin because of this," says Ajmal Baloch, president of the All Pakistan Traders Association. "Cosmetics, medical supplies, raw materials for industry and pharmaceuticals, are stuck."

Reports began emerging of workers losing their jobs and industrial units shutting down as businesses struggled to import raw materials, including a major local car manufacturer which announced it was halting work for two weeks - having neither the inventory, nor the demand.

What began as a dollar crisis "turned into a supply chain crisis, where do not have enough inputs to export   and we can't really get more dollars unless we export," says Ammar Khan, an economist...

Nazar says until recently, Pakistan's key place as a U.S. ally on the war on terror following the al-Qaida attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and its role as a logistics conduit for U.S. and NATO forces in neighboring Afghanistan, made it easier for the country to seek help from institutions like the World Bank and International Monetary Fund.  But especially after America's withdrawal from Afghanistan and the Taliban takeover in August 2021, Islamabad has been less strategically important, he says...

"It was the Pakistan military [that] was directly talking with the TTP leadership," Rana says. As a goodwill measure, Rana says the army quietly allowed some militants to return to their homes in Pakistan. "I think this was the biggest mistake," he says. "And when they have infiltrated inside Pakistan, they again started the terrorist attacks."  It was ordinary Pakistanis who exposed the resettlement deal in October. They also effectively halted it by flocking to the streets in the tens of thousands to protest against it, particularly in the Swat Valley...

You're probably more right than your realize.

The Chinese scamdemic has well and truly fucked up the globe. Hope having to get Trump out at all costs was worth it, assholes.

$3250, COD.

Those losers are still hanging on. Let’s see people in the streets and a toppled gov. We know it’s coming.

220 million people that can't provide for themselves.  

And that's just a tip of the iceberg.  If this increasingly fragile global economy decides to crash hard, there's going to be mass starvation on a scale never seen in history. Potentially billions of people whose survival is dependent on a very small number of people working in developed economies and advanced agriculture, who can't self sustain without access to aid and cheap food made available by the aforementioned people. That spigot gets broken, hold tf on.

ETA: POF MP5s cheaper than MKE when?

Teach a man to fish.

It matters not one fucking bit. Zero.

Sooner or later one of those 3rd or 4th world countries with nuclear weapons is/are/will go belly up and it’s dam likely within that instability some other 3rd world country or group gains access.
It’s dam near inevitable.

What’s your plan to stop it ?

I wonder how many Paki designers of nuclear weapons Iran has already hired.

This is real bad news.

Elon Musk should buy all their nukes. I feel like he needs nukes. He looks like a guy who you'd expect to have nukes..

Hope they enjoy wallowing in that bed they made

After the OBL fiasco and the ISI's help of the Taliban in Afghanistan not to mention how much they profited off of us during that time.. good. Fuck'm.

lol @ China with 350.

Let's see, China organizes their strategic nuclear forces into brigades with 6-12 silos/TELs per brigade.

612 Bde - DF-31AG ICBM
621 Bde - DF-31AG ICBM
622 Bde - DF-31A ICBM
631 Bde - DF-5 ICBM
632 Bde - DF-31 ICBM
633 Bde - DF-5A ICBM
641 Bde - DF-31 ICBM
642 Bde - DF-31AG ICBM
643 Bde - DF-31AG ICBM
644 Bde - DF-41 ICBM
652 Bde - DF-31 or DF-31A ICBM
662 Bde - DF-4 ICBM (really MRBM)
663 Bde - DF-31 ICBM
664 Bde - DF-31 ICBM

I count 14 brigades, so, ~84-168 launch vehicles.  DF-31 and DF-31A are thought to carry a single warhead, and the AG 7 warheads.  DF-41 carries up to 10 warheads.  DF-5 single warhead, DF-5A 3-10 warheads.  Anyway, they have, on the low side, at least 168 warheads on their DF-31AG missiles, and a lot of their DF-31/31A missiles are being upgraded to the 31AG.

If it really falls apart there I would expect someone would move in a secure their nukes.

Pakistan is selling lots of ammunition to Ukraine right now

If you live in a major city, it may be prudent to reconsider that.

Yeah, and most idiots will probably buy into it too, instead of realizing that central banking is largely responsible for the situation in the first place.

Fuck Pakistan also, regarding them as a "partner" is on a level of retardation that is nearly unfathomable. I could see India moving on the land and ridding themselves of the people that are there; or I could see China moving on it, which will be great seeing how long our IC has partnered with the ISI. The latter is probably more likely, but the former is probably preferable.

Doom.

I support the thing.

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Interest payments on existing debt is projected to absorb 41% of government income this year
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Foreign reserves fall below $3 billion
"Arif Habib Ltd calculated that reserves were at their lowest since February 2014 and cover a little more than two weeks of imports."

Ordinary Pakistanis borrowing heavily to put food on the table

Muslim mob storms police station and beats prisoner to death for blasphemy, latest in a series of blasphemy lynchings

Total madness!!! An angry mob attacked the police station in Nankana Sahib. Reportedly an accused of blasphemy was killed and body burnt by the mob. Apparently police was unable to control the situation. pic.twitter.com/1kdNGFmqro

Shiraz Hassan  (@ShirazHassan) February 11, 2023

The US Should Not Help Pakistan
Pakistan is no longer a strategic partner of the United States. With the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan, the political relevance of Pakistan to the U.S. is significantly diminished. Pakistan continues to harbor Islamic terrorists who would bring death to India, an important strategic partner of the U.S....

Let Beijing pick up the tab.

China will provide financial assistance to Islamabad because it wants transit for energy exports and imports from the Arabian Sea to China's western provinces. China also wants access to the strategically vital port of Gwadar on the Arabian Sea.

Saudi Arabia will provide economic assistance to Pakistan because Pakistan is a key purchaser of Saudi oil and is a source of necessary migrant labor for Saudi Arabia. Pakistan is a Sunni-majority country, as is Saudi Arabia. Riyadh sees Pakistan as a strategic partner against Iran, a Shia nation. Riyadh also sees Pakistan as its nuclear weapons backstop in the event that Iran attains a nuclear weapons capability....


ETA The Ukrainians have been shooting a little Pakistani ammo here and there and yesterday it was reported that a ship carrying 10,000 Pakistani Grad rockets is due to arrive in a German port shortly, so they're obviously receiving a semi truck load or two of dollars or euros for that, which likely doesn't show up on the official tally and will help stretch things out.  If they collapse hard perhaps they'll have a post-Soviet style garage sale and Ukraine will be half outfitted with Paki gear this time next year.

Well, there's a reason Pakistan is selling so many arms abroad and they are winding up in Ukrainian guns.

LOL. Not a single fuck. I hate Pakistan so much. Been there a few times. Its #2 behind Kuwait on my Places I Hate List.

This. !!   The US has a money  printing machine , no worries ??

Has anyone stabbed them with a fork yet? sounds like they are done.

Pakistan creates the Taliban to disrupt neighbor to weaken them as a threat.

Taliban harbors UBL.

US invades Afghanistan to eliminate UBL.

Pakistan requires US to pay extortion fees for all supplies going to Afghanistan.

Pakistan hides UML for years from US occasionally taking artillery pot shots at US forces. War in Afghanistan is prolonged and gets embroiled with Taliban. US pays extortion fees for 20 years.

US leaves Afghanistan. Taliban offshoot attacks Pakistan. (This confirms my theory if we left Islamic countries alone they would annihilate each other instead of attacking us. It would be sweet to see the Taliban unhinge Pakistan and end up dismantling each other).

Pakistan extortion based economy collapses. This is my shocked face ——-


Maybe India will offer to assume their debt for all the land using the profits they got from the MIM parts in my P365 (which I love shooting and carrying)?

If they took out student loans, Biden will pay them off

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Don't lowball him, he knows what he's got.

It isn't a matter of "should we do something or not?" based on whether Pakistan is asshoe? They clearly are.

There isn't much we could do even if we wanted to, so here we are. Secure the nukes if possible but that's about it.

It's just that India's kung fu sucks. Pakis have been running a subversive war with Islamic brotherhood types for decades. In Afghanistan. those guys are just devious mean fuckers. India is a strutting peacock in shit-filled streets.

3.a.  Eject all illegals and their crotch fruit.  Send home all the hostile nation student visa holders and their relatives.  Send home H1B visa holders and all their relatives.  Cancel all proceedings of third world uneducated immigration applicants.  We don’t want free loaders and your free loading relatives.  This includes the one Indian tech worker and his five great grandmothers signing up for social security.



It sounds like Pokystan got a little too used to the U.S. access fees to Afghanistan.  I wouldn’t be that pissed off over that if they weren’t the ones hiding that terrorist fuckstick the whole time.  May it be a painful process and let the natives kill their own leadership.  Oh and don’t forget to get satisfaction with the evil bastards of their intelligence services.