The Patterson film captured a Bigfoot in transition to cover.  The IMAX helicopter crew captured a Bigfoot in transition to cover.  The key here is transition to cover.  You are very lucky to capture a glimpse, and extremely lucky to capture them fully exposed.  They leave physical evidence, but they are keenly aware of themselves and their impact, unlike a snow leopard.  If you stage a camera, it is extremely unlikely that you will get anything of value.  Interestingly, staged audio recorders, albeit electronic, produce good results.  At all times, they possess their characteristics both physical and other.  You never know what you are going to get.

Since you weren't there you're left with calling him a liar and faker then, since I wasn't there either, I'm left with "I don't know"

That sort of paraphrasing is the same sort of dishonest (or stupid...or both) bullshit that is so common with creationists.  It's a nice feature of their character (or lack thereof) that makes it nice and easy to spot which of them is not to be trusted or even taken seriously.

You should spend less time commenting and more time in a Remedial English class.  He didn't even remotely call the individual in question a liar and/or a faker.

How many chromosomes does it have from these?

BS. So any subject not in it's specific forum is trolling now ?
There Are forums for most everything. Also pics of mtn lion in mi?

HaHa!! That's got to be one of the most fake/staged things I've ever seen. Looks like a stage prop.

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Go to the local VFW.


My personal theory about all these different cultures all over the globe that have stories about a large hominid that was antisocial, and lived in the woods is as such.

In the not so distant past, there were three, at least subspecies of humans with overlapping ranges. One theory as to why our subspecies won out, is that we were much more social. So stories of large, very reclusive, upright walking hominids that were not quite us make sense. Throw in 10,000 years, or more of retelling, and a very hairy Neanderthal or Donovan has shaggy fur.

Bingo. When that " BF is supernatural " card gets pulled (and it happens about mid way through any GD BF thread.......you might as well just enjoy the ride, because it's all downhill from there.  

Lol - I guess the natives had mastadon to do their plowing and buried them in their burial mounds.  Does that make sense to you?

A few years ago I was in my front yard by the garage and I saw a strange dog run through my yard, just out of the corner of my eye. It was a dog...a brown one, I've never seen it before.  Looked around a little bit, and it was gone....never saw it again. I would have bet my life that it was a dog....and medium sized brown one.

A day later I'm in the backyard, and see a wadded up paper grocery bag.  What the hell??  I got on my security camera and pulled up the footage from the day before. There I am.....there goes the brown paper bag blowing across the corner of my house and around the corner into the back yard.  It was a paper bag the whole time.

Like others have said in this thread....your mind can play some really strange tricks on you.  Unless I saw it on camera, I would have said that was a dog until the day I died.

in before "I see so many of them I dont even bother now"
or "I don't keep my phone with me in the woods"

So it didn't make a sound when approaching or leaving, but you heard it walking down the trail.  OK.  And even if we ignore that inconsistency, what is your point?  Are you asserting that BF has magical levitation powers or something that allows it to move over leaf litter and the like silently in a way that no other animal can?

Unless I'm specifically out in the woods looking for a animal to photograph, I don't carry my camera on me (or at least have it at the ready) when I'm just out hiking.  

Now...if I was on an expedition to find some elusive animal, with several other people who have the same goal as me.....then I would have a camera at the ready, and I would have 100 photos of said animal before it even fully got out of view. I've seen a few black bears while hiking....never took any photos. That being said, there are a bazillion game cam pics of black bears, so why would I take a picture of some random bear? In case several years later I have to prove my "hard to believe" story about seeing a bear to some random dude on a gun forum?

You are comparing apples to oranges.  A guy out on a random hike in the woods is not the same thing as a whole group of people with hi tech gear out looking for some elusive creature that NEVER gets photographed or video taped.  Trying to say those things are the same is just silly.

Yes.....that is exactly what people are saying. This is when they pull the "it's supernatural" card, and anything goes because.....it's supernatural.  BF can travel without making noise. Can transport from one area to the next. Can appear and disappear when it wants to. etc, etc, etc...

It's like they are doubling down.....not only do you have to believe there are lots of BF out there, but now you have to believe they they are also "supernatural" and can do things no other being on earth can.   Entertaining to say the least.  

Lincoln never said "Indian burial mounds".  He just said "mounds of America".  You have no idea what he was referring to.  This is yet another example of what I'm talking about.  You're dishonestly paraphrasing.

I liked the way they kept twitching the still image in the video to give the impression of motion.

I've not been following the Bigfeets community but it seems like Bigfeets were fully natural beings until cameras in cell phones started becoming more and more common.

Because eyewitnesses are the absolute lowest form of evidence for a reason.  I deal with them daily, 20 years now and they have never matched the video or physical evidence.

I noticed the same thing.....it never moved, but they sure tried to make it look like it did.  If you actually had one of those things on video.....why wouldn't you keep it on video until it actually moved, blinked, did something?  You know why? Because it's fake....

It is clearly a child Bigfeets and its control over the power to fuzz and/or erase cameras with its mind is not fully developed. It let its control lapse for a fraction of a second and the resulting image is the frame where it appeared before it concentrated again and disappeared.

It appears you’re so eager to discount what he saw that you didn’t bother even reading the account. The first thing you mentioned is he saw something from the corner of his eye. That’s false. Read the account. He sat right there on his horse and watched it. And it wasn’t Pikachu.

I have no idea what they look like if they exist. Is this fake? I dunno

Why are you here?
You stated why in your last sentence. So you can label them full of shit on other subjects. If you were here for the entertainment value you wouldn’t be labeling people. You’d read, laugh and move on.

Ranging isn’t trolling. The subject interests him and he likes discussing it. GD gets lots of traffic. Threads get buried in sub forums because there’s little to no traffic.

Not true they were thought to hypnotize in the 20s and have supernatural powers

'They kill their game entirely by hypnotism. They have great supernatural powers. They also have the gift of ventriloquism, and have deceived many ordinary Indians by throwing their voices,"

http://hamell.net/earliest-documented-bigfoot-sighting-in-pacific-northwest/

It's not so much who they send the DNA samples to as it is what becomes of those samples that turn up unknown. <cue dramatic music>

I agree. I Don't believe in Bigfoot but I don't see this as trolling I am glad its in GD so its not just a circle jerk like the snowflake forum.

OBSERVED: The following account was given to Colorado curator T.E. Stein during a phone interview with Bob Jackson in 2003. Recently, Jackson gave permission to submit his account to the BFRO. Jackson, also known as "Action Jackson," was legendary among park supporters - notorious among outfitters and scofflaws - for his enforcement of park rules and regulations. He retired as a Yellowstone ranger in 2004. Few people have ever known Yellowstone's backcountry and its wildlife like Jackson.

"The first time heard anything was in the mid-late 70s. An outfitter and I were riding up Fan Creek in the northwest section of the park. Up the drainage in Stellaria Creek, we heard a sound that just kept going and going. It was probably a mile away. It filled the whole valley up - kind of 1,000 like elk going to their death. I couldn’t believe this thing had that much volume for that long a period of time. He had never heard anything like it, neither.

"A couple of weeks later, I was coming out from Sportsman Creek, taking a trail which comes out of Fan Creek. I was 11 miles back in, up high in a subalpine fir meadow complex.
I was on a steep sidehill with horses and in woods but down below about 40-50 yards there was a kind of fairly flat meadow, with dense subalpine thickets. There were these low fir growths that have a centerpiece tree and then everything kind of cone-shapes to ground. They were about 20 yards wide or so.

"The horses were flaring their noses and snorting, like they do when a grizzly bear is real close, but I could see fairly good all around and I couldn’t see one. So I started looking down below me, and the horses were really agitated – they’re wanting to get out of there. I held them but only with effort.

"I looked down to see where griz was, and I saw a deer at edge of thicket. All at once it bolted and started jarring ahead perpendicular to me. Right then coming out the other side was this thing that was running on two feet. It was black like a bear and it had long arms and ran. I think I held it there 30 seconds, but it got scared and then came out. It ran but not super fast. It ran to another thicket and went at angle out of thicket to another thicket about 40-50 yards away (At this point, the creature was 75 yards downslope.)

"It kept hitting these thickets trying to get away from me. I’ve never seen a bear do that. They’ll always take a straight line.

"The first thing I thought was “bear” but right away I realized this black shaggy thing wasn’t a bear. This thing was smart. I’ve never seen animal trying to pick up protection as it fled.

"I tied that together with sound had on other side of the drainage.

"It wasn’t that tall – it looked like it was like 6 foot, maybe 6' 5". The side of the face looked like it had a lot of fur. Most of the time it was angling away, so I only got a good look at the head for probably the first 10 steps.

"The proportions of the torso - it looked more stocky than anything else. I notived the arms swung more than a human’s would and it didn’t have elbows cocked.

"This was no hoax. I’ve ridden maybe 50,000 to 70,000
miles in the backcountry on horses and you encounter a lot of bears when you do that. This thing, whatever it was, the horses looked straight down to it.

OTHER WITNESSES: Several other witnesses, unnnamed.

OTHER STORIES: After his sighting, Jackson started asking other people if they had ever heard any unusual vocalizations.




Read the whole encounter he wasn't up there with bigfoot on his mind . He never paid it no mind or discussed it with campers . After he saw one THEN he decided to ask other people if they heard or saw anything weird

There was no corner of his eye


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If anything his mind was working the opposite of what you posted . He had encountered 1000's of bears over his time and his MIND worked to see a Bear but then he realized he wasn't looking at a bear.

Lol. If sound recorders work, use them to identify areas where BF regularly takes cover. Surely they must bed down and sleep sometime. Make it a long term study, long enough to determine regular patterns of movement and domicile. Then swap the sound recorders with cameras placed to capture their movements to and from cover as they rise from sleep, forage/feed, then return to their den/lair/whatever.

But no, they are so stealthy and aware they will figure out what's going on and escape/evade without leaving a trace. That's where their "other" characteristics come in so handy.

Yes it’s fake.
There’s a well known bigfoot hoaxer named Tim (?) something or the other that supposedly took that video. I believe Les Stroud did a show with him.

That guy is a clown but has spent more times in the bush then most people posting in this thread . Too bad he felt he had to fake this stuff

You  gotta cite stuff!!!!.
I can't find

Tons of faked bf articles obviously

Yet if you were called to testify in court with eyewitness testimony it would be enough to send someone to jail for life, what would make your testimony any different?

........

A shitty legal phenomenon is not evidence that eyewitness claims are inherently reliable.  It's evidence of an unfortunate flaw in the legal system.

The person in this article?

"How did the team definitively determine that the samples were from Bigfoot? Well, they didn't; the report details where Bigfoot samples were retrieved: "hair found on tree" and "hair found on wire fence" are typical. In other words, the people collecting the samples didn't see what animal left it there, possibly weeks or months earlier — but if it seemed suspicious it might be Bigfoot."

Lol no, not at all. I’ve never seen a case with nothing but witness testimony run. You still need to back that with evidence

That's how the Big Feet work...they turn us against each other causing us to waste site resources.

It kind of matters. Are the samples going to 23andme?

Then don’t bother with it then.

Have a curious mind or not. See for yourself what she reports or just believe the negative things said about the study.

Nothing, I don't think witnesses should be a deciding factor in court.  

Take this thread for example.

I love the irony of Bigfeets people suddenly deciding that one inconsistent or wrong detail is suddenly a big deal.

A truly curious mind would consider both.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2013/07/an-honest-attempt-to-understand-the-bigfoot-genome-and-the-woman-who-created-it/

I agree.

But getting the forum was a long but fun process.

The Russian pics found with the hikers was interesting.

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Better yet are Mars rover pictures.....

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An explanation for any predator would be once it became aware of his campsite/scent, it immediately went into stealth stalking mode.  Stealth in, stealth out.  On with its business.

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