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183 yards isn't a difficult shot on a human sized target. 400-500 yards takes much more work, concentration, and accuracy.
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I dropped a deer last year at that distance, sitting unsupported, using an AR15 in 450 Bushmaster. One shot, through and through.
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I routinely shoot at 200 yards. With iron sights. Not difficult.
I've shot out to 600 yards, again with iron sights. Quite a bit more difficult. Video said suspect had two wounds, one self-inflicted. So it seems the officer made a hit, but the suspect ended the standoff by eating a .45ACP. |
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Before you run out and buy his $600 mount, Munn didn’t even hit him.
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Quoted: Officer pulls up, casually sets coffee on his dash and calmly opens door. Walks back to the rear of the Tahoe as a volley of shots sounds off. Officer calmly opens tailgate as more rounds go off. Officer calmly uncases rifle, charges said rifle, calmly checks red dot sight for operation. Scans the street. Calmly raises rifle from cover and takes one shot. Radios shots fired, subject down. Nice! View Quote I've been led to believe that having to turn on an optic will get you killed. Was I lied to? |
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Nah some bro 200 yards away taking pot shots with a rifle?
Im egressing and going home Glad Im not a cop |
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Best part is him rolling up with the coffee.
I think I could make the shot, but I wouldn't be that casual about it. |
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Quoted: Best part is him rolling up with the coffee. I think I could make the shot, but I wouldn't be that casual about it. View Quote Yep. I’m not even going to attempt the shot until I’ve finished the coffee. Then it’s probably too much and I’m jittery… unless someone promises kolache afterward; then you’re darn right I make that shot with kolache on the line! But seriously, I’m not John Wick and the only baddies I’ve ever shot are four-legged predators, but I’ve always amazed myself with my accuracy in the heat of the moment. |
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Cruises up, sits coffee down, turns off vehicle and removes keys, casually retrieves his rifle while taking fire, drops the bad guy with one shot.
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I voted 50-50. Not the same situation, but I was able to effectively engage the enemy during an ambush of our convoy in Iraq in 2003 using an M16A1 at about 100 yards. Iron sights of course and I hit. Not a KIA like the officer had with one round. We were receiving fire and the ambush was kicked off with an IED.
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I can hit an 11" tall, 7" wide appleseed "shingle" cold bore at 250 yds
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Quoted: 4:30 perp is limping before Munn fired. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Where do you draw that conclusion from? Munn fired one round and saw the scumbag drop and move to cover. By the time officers arrived the bad guy had eaten a bullet to end his life. 4:30 perp is limping before Munn fired. You're wrong. Munn dropped him. |
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Quoted: 4:30 perp is limping before Munn fired. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Where do you draw that conclusion from? Munn fired one round and saw the scumbag drop and move to cover. By the time officers arrived the bad guy had eaten a bullet to end his life. 4:30 perp is limping before Munn fired. https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/crime/article265443611.html The ME said he died from a rifle wound to the chest, not self inflicted. https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/crime/article265443611.html |
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I mean... the mount had exactly nothing to do with being able to make the hit.
It's more of a hint that the particular officer who chose it is deep into the tactical shooting world/ up to date on the latest equipment, and is equipped to shoot in the dark with nods. All of this points to the likelihood of him being an expert shooter beyond the basic familiarization of most officers. Munn could have made the shot with iron sights. It was the Indian not the arrow. |
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Quoted: Yeah, since that's exactly like taking fire from a suspect with a long gun during a fluid situation. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I made first round hits out to 300 yards on IDPA steel standing So yes Yeah, since that's exactly like taking fire from a suspect with a long gun during a fluid situation. How would you propose training for such a situation, then? |
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Quoted: Article says he was hit by one police shot, and one self inflicted shot. Guessing once he was hit, he offed himself. How much of a person does a 3moa dot cover at 183 yards? 5 inches? That's about what a decent shooter can hold. So call it a 10 inch hit zone. Doable, if you are calm. If you have an adrenaline rush all bets are off. Officer Snuffy here had zero adrenaline. He's been here before. View Quote Don’t need no adrenaline when you are fully caffeinated. keep hydrated! |
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Easily……..was making consistent hits at 400 yards just 2 weeks ago :)
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ETA: was responding to retardation but someone else got to it first.
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Quoted: https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/crime/article265443611.html The ME said he died from a rifle wound to the chest, not self inflicted. https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/crime/article265443611.html View Quote Correct, one of the officers shot him before 4:30. |
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Quoted: Wut? You need to hang with better peeps. Lots of practical shooting competitors could make that easy. CAG has more bodies than that. And I know at least three retired guys who could still make that. View Quote I agree , lots of guys think they could take that shot ad many of them would only hit about 15 or 20% . Then there are the guys who are not just good in their minds. I know at least a dozen in my club that could do that shot with a high percentage. I think I could do pretty well. Of course the big question is the many stresses of a real life two way range . I can only take a general guess that many of the decent shooters would have a much lower percentage with the stress. Of course the guy got the job done. Is he that good or just lucky? I once took a shot at a groundhog , while I was sitting on a farm tractor , twisted around directly behind me , using one hand on a pistol . I had 5 witnesses and it was pretty close to 150 yards and the chuck dropped like a stone . Just a potshot but 4 of those witnesses thought I was freaking John Wayne . The other knew better |
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Quoted: Correct, one of the officers shot him before 4:30. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/crime/article265443611.html The ME said he died from a rifle wound to the chest, not self inflicted. https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/crime/article265443611.html Correct, one of the officers shot him before 4:30. With a rifle, in the chest, with no visible blood on his white shirt? |
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Quoted: With a rifle, in the chest, with no visible blood on his white shirt? View Quote Suspect is not limping at 1:20. Hobbs fires at suspect at 3:50. Suspect is stumbling, doubled over at 4:30. 1: You can only see the back of his shirt. 2: There may not be an exit wound. Damn, I’m good. I could put Donut Operator back on the beat. |
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Quoted: Suspect is not limping at 1:20. Hobbs fires at suspect at 3:50. Suspect is stumbling, doubled over at 4:30. 1: You can only see the back of his shirt. 2: There may not be an exit wound. Damn, I’m good. I could put Donut Operator back on the beat. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: With a rifle, in the chest, with no visible blood on his white shirt? Suspect is not limping at 1:20. Hobbs fires at suspect at 3:50. Suspect is stumbling, doubled over at 4:30. 1: You can only see the back of his shirt. 2: There may not be an exit wound. Damn, I’m good. I could put Donut Operator back on the beat. Dude. Just go away. |
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Quoted: It is a GBRS Hydra mount. Designed by former DEVGRU guys for use on SBR/PDW's. Many super duper high speed basement dwellers on ARFCOM and Reddit shit on it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Apologies, but details on this setup? It is a GBRS Hydra mount. Designed by former DEVGRU guys for use on SBR/PDW's. Many super duper high speed basement dwellers on ARFCOM and Reddit shit on it. What's the point when you have all that rail space available? I've never seen it before. |
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Quoted: Given WA's passing of laws related to LE UOF several years ago and the hostility of the FED courts in 1983 cases, the smart answer would be maybe 3-5 years, or even better, never. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Quoted: What's the point when you have all that rail space available? I've never seen it before. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Apologies, but details on this setup? It is a GBRS Hydra mount. Designed by former DEVGRU guys for use on SBR/PDW's. Many super duper high speed basement dwellers on ARFCOM and Reddit shit on it. What's the point when you have all that rail space available? I've never seen it before. Beowulf X was so far ahead of its time it’s amazing. |
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When I was well practiced at shooting prairie dogs in the Texas panhandle, my best RDS shot was a running jackrabbit at just under 200 yards.
Does that compare to rolling up to and joining in an active two way round exchange? Not in the least. |
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