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Posted: 1/20/2023 11:06:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah I'll have to have me one of the new S&W 5.7s. Intrigued by the design. It might not need any coating to function. Every account I've read has said that removing the coating did not affect function in pistols. Not sure how well a PS90 would run without it. I'm sure AAC had tested this and taken it into consideration. If not, a lot of people will be disappointed. |
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Posted: 1/20/2023 8:18:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: it’s a blasty little round whose terminal ballistics benefits from muzzle velocity. Whether taking an inch off pistol barrel length is a good trade remains to be seen. Reducing the grip would be much better for CCW. But that means developing a new magazine for the shorter grip. |
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Posted: 1/20/2023 8:33:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Reducing the grip would be much better for CCW. But that means developing a new magazine for the shorter grip. You saw the compact Rock from Shot, didn't you? |
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Posted: 1/20/2023 8:49:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You saw the compact Rock from Shot, didn't you? Only the flyer someone just posted upthread. ETA: and found video of it... only a 1/4" shorter barrel. That is fine, especially with the option for a threaded barrel allowing a longer version. |
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Posted: 1/21/2023 11:34:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Every account I've read has said that removing the coating did not affect function in pistols. Not sure how well a PS90 would run without it. I'm sure AAC had tested this and taken it into consideration. If not, a lot of people will be disappointed. I belive someone in either this thread or the otherone tested in their PS90, and it worked great |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 12:19:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Every account I've read has said that removing the coating did not affect function in pistols. Not sure how well a PS90 would run without it. I'm sure AAC had tested this and taken it into consideration. If not, a lot of people will be disappointed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah I'll have to have me one of the new S&W 5.7s. Intrigued by the design. It might not need any coating to function. Every account I've read has said that removing the coating did not affect function in pistols. Not sure how well a PS90 would run without it. I'm sure AAC had tested this and taken it into consideration. If not, a lot of people will be disappointed. They said on page one they are coating the cases. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 12:38:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They said on page one they are coating the cases. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 4:54:50 PM EDT
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Buffman, you get any in hand and test it yet? Interested to see what projectile they used and what the velocity out of the handguns and an SBR’d PS90 look like.
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Posted: 1/22/2023 6:13:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buffman, you get any in hand and test it yet? Interested to see what projectile they used and what the velocity out of the handguns and an SBR’d PS90 look like. The red tipped load is Vmax. Bullet is identical to ss197 projectile other than tip color. FN used to load the red tips as ss196sr. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 7:02:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The red tipped load is Vmax. Bullet is identical to ss197 projectile other than tip color. FN used to load the red tips as ss196sr. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Buffman, you get any in hand and test it yet? Interested to see what projectile they used and what the velocity out of the handguns and an SBR’d PS90 look like. The red tipped load is Vmax. Bullet is identical to ss197 projectile other than tip color. FN used to load the red tips as ss196sr. According to MACs tour video, they are manufacturing not only brass cases for their ammo lines, they are making the projectiles as well. Didn't mention powder or primers, but wouldn't that be a kick in the head? 
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Posted: 1/22/2023 7:50:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: According to MACs tour video, they are manufacturing not only brass cases for their ammo lines, they are making the projectiles as well. Didn't mention powder or primers, but wouldn't that be a kick in the head? If they hut hutted a bunch of primers out on to the market it sure would be. Call it a "how you doingk" to the big players. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 11:43:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We are slowly producing it, we have been testing it through every platform available including full auto dumps out of a P90. Everything is checking out perfectly. The plan is to start full production in about 2 weeks and will be available on the web site last week of December or first week in January. here is the post i was talking about back on Page 6 If it works in a P90, my PS90 will be hap hap happy! I just hope its avaiable end of this month. |
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Posted: 1/23/2023 12:56:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: According to MACs tour video, they are manufacturing not only brass cases for their ammo lines, they are making the projectiles as well. Didn't mention powder or primers, but wouldn't that be a kick in the head? True for some loads, but if it says Vmax or XTP or Sierra on the AAC box, they didn't make those projectiles... |
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Posted: 1/23/2023 10:10:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buffman, you get any in hand and test it yet? Interested to see what projectile they used and what the velocity out of the handguns and an SBR'd PS90 look like. |
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Posted: 1/23/2023 12:28:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/23/2023 12:46:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Two things…. First, I think it is brass but in a weird light. Secondly, you must be jonesing for that sweet, sweet 5.7 ammo to make this your first post in 11 years! LOL, yeah it has been a while. Spent most of my time on the LRH forum, then on the modern muzzleloader forums, now I bought a Ruger LC and I had to come back... |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 1:32:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: According to MACs tour video, they are manufacturing not only brass cases for their ammo lines, they are making the projectiles as well. Didn't mention powder or primers, but wouldn't that be a kick in the head? They are making the primers as well. |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 11:37:26 PM EDT
[#18]
So it was December. Then early January.
Shot Show revealed nothing. We got any idea when it’s coming? |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 6:06:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So it was December. Then early January. Shot Show revealed nothing. We got any idea when it’s coming? 2 weeks... |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 8:42:51 AM EDT
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come on psa, my balls cant get any bluer lol. ordered some fn 5.7 from gmw while im waiting for this to drop
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:56:36 PM EDT
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Has anyone noticed...popped up about 2 days ago https://palmettostatearmory.com/5-7x28mm-ammo.html
It just doesn't show they have stock yet. But you can add your email for a reminder. |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 10:06:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Has anyone noticed...popped up about 2 days ago https://palmettostatearmory.com/5-7x28mm-ammo.html It just doesn't show they have stock yet. But you can add your email for a reminder. Usually stuff pops up a few days before it goes live. I wouldn't be surprised for a Friday drop. FMJ looks like $25.99 and vmax $29.99 for 50 rounds. |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 10:38:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Usually stuff pops up a few days before it goes live. I wouldn't be surprised for a Friday drop. FMJ looks like $25.99 and vmax $29.99 for 50 rounds. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Has anyone noticed...popped up about 2 days ago https://palmettostatearmory.com/5-7x28mm-ammo.html It just doesn't show they have stock yet. But you can add your email for a reminder. Usually stuff pops up a few days before it goes live. I wouldn't be surprised for a Friday drop. FMJ looks like $25.99 and vmax $29.99 for 50 rounds. 
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Posted: 1/25/2023 10:43:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Usually stuff pops up a few days before it goes live. I wouldn't be surprised for a Friday drop. FMJ looks like $25.99 and vmax $29.99 for 50 rounds. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Has anyone noticed...popped up about 2 days ago https://palmettostatearmory.com/5-7x28mm-ammo.html It just doesn't show they have stock yet. But you can add your email for a reminder. Usually stuff pops up a few days before it goes live. I wouldn't be surprised for a Friday drop. FMJ looks like $25.99 and vmax $29.99 for 50 rounds. Saw that aswell prob order a couple boxes of each to mag dump |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 10:57:11 PM EDT
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My cc is ready
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Posted: 1/25/2023 11:04:39 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: here is the post i was talking about back on Page 6 If it works in a P90, my PS90 will be hap hap happy! I just hope it’s avaiable end of this month. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We are slowly producing it, we have been testing it through every platform available including full auto dumps out of a P90. Everything is checking out perfectly. The plan is to start full production in about 2 weeks and will be available on the web site last week of December or first week in January. here is the post i was talking about back on Page 6 If it works in a P90, my PS90 will be hap hap happy! I just hope it’s avaiable end of this month. My SBRed ps90 doesn’t like the blue tip or federal american eagle |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 12:06:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The AAC cases are coated. That's the black coating you see on the brass. A type of coating is CRUCIAL for function in any blowback type 5.7 action. It's used to prevent the case from sticking in the chamber during firing so that the shoulder can bump forward vs, the case just stretching at the neck and ripping it off in the chamber. There's quite a few people who try to remove the coating and end up with reliability issues. I've run noncoated brass in subsonic use and it's OK. It also tends to help with the P90 magazine feeding as well. Looks like its called "Sabreslick® " https://palmettostatearmory.com/aac-5-7x28mm-ammo-40-grain-fmj-50rd-box.html PRODUCT DETAILS DETAILS Brand: AAC Bullet Type: Full Metal Jacket Casing: AAC Brass-Boxer Primed, Fully Reloadable Caliber: 5.7x28mm Quantity: 50 Bullet Weight: 40gr The AAC 5.7x28mm ammo has a Sabreslick® coating for optimal performance, increasing the lubricity for extraction and cycling. |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 12:25:43 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My SBRed ps90 doesn’t like the blue tip or federal american eagle Mine runs everything I've tried in it both with and without a can |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 10:16:56 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My SBRed ps90 doesn’t like the blue tip or federal american eagle Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: We are slowly producing it, we have been testing it through every platform available including full auto dumps out of a P90. Everything is checking out perfectly. The plan is to start full production in about 2 weeks and will be available on the web site last week of December or first week in January. here is the post i was talking about back on Page 6 If it works in a P90, my PS90 will be hap hap happy! I just hope it’s avaiable end of this month. My SBRed ps90 doesn’t like the blue tip or federal american eagle Care to expound on "doesn't like"? |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 11:48:27 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Care to expound on "doesn't like"? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: We are slowly producing it, we have been testing it through every platform available including full auto dumps out of a P90. Everything is checking out perfectly. The plan is to start full production in about 2 weeks and will be available on the web site last week of December or first week in January. here is the post i was talking about back on Page 6 If it works in a P90, my PS90 will be hap hap happy! I just hope it’s avaiable end of this month. My SBRed ps90 doesn’t like the blue tip or federal american eagle Care to expound on "doesn't like"? Fails to extract or feed fully even with new mags |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 12:26:02 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fails to extract or feed fully even with new mags Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: We are slowly producing it, we have been testing it through every platform available including full auto dumps out of a P90. Everything is checking out perfectly. The plan is to start full production in about 2 weeks and will be available on the web site last week of December or first week in January. here is the post i was talking about back on Page 6 If it works in a P90, my PS90 will be hap hap happy! I just hope it’s avaiable end of this month. My SBRed ps90 doesn’t like the blue tip or federal american eagle Care to expound on "doesn't like"? Fails to extract or feed fully even with new mags That sounds like a gun issue or a bad mag. No way it shouldn't feed or extract either of those loads. Factory barrel that was chopped, or an aftermarket one swapped in? |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 1:22:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That sounds like a gun issue or a bad mag. No way it shouldn't feed or extract either of those loads. Factory barrel that was chopped, or an aftermarket one swapped in? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: We are slowly producing it, we have been testing it through every platform available including full auto dumps out of a P90. Everything is checking out perfectly. The plan is to start full production in about 2 weeks and will be available on the web site last week of December or first week in January. here is the post i was talking about back on Page 6 If it works in a P90, my PS90 will be hap hap happy! I just hope it’s avaiable end of this month. My SBRed ps90 doesn’t like the blue tip or federal american eagle Care to expound on "doesn't like"? Fails to extract or feed fully even with new mags That sounds like a gun issue or a bad mag. No way it shouldn't feed or extract either of those loads. Factory barrel that was chopped, or an aftermarket one swapped in? Chopped factory barrel. Has about 1-1.5mm of forward and back play like it should. |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 1:40:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Chopped factory barrel. Has about 1-1.5mm of forward and back play like it should. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: We are slowly producing it, we have been testing it through every platform available including full auto dumps out of a P90. Everything is checking out perfectly. The plan is to start full production in about 2 weeks and will be available on the web site last week of December or first week in January. here is the post i was talking about back on Page 6 If it works in a P90, my PS90 will be hap hap happy! I just hope it’s avaiable end of this month. My SBRed ps90 doesn’t like the blue tip or federal american eagle Care to expound on "doesn't like"? Fails to extract or feed fully even with new mags That sounds like a gun issue or a bad mag. No way it shouldn't feed or extract either of those loads. Factory barrel that was chopped, or an aftermarket one swapped in? Chopped factory barrel. Has about 1-1.5mm of forward and back play like it should. Did it work before the chop? What ammo does it run? Very odd for neither of those rounds to feed or extract. |
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Posted: 1/27/2023 1:02:02 AM EDT
[#34]
time to buy a new mag
also try mancave rollers |
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Posted: 1/27/2023 1:16:43 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: also try mancave rollers FWIW this is one of my theories also. My gun with Mancave rollers eats AE happily as does my buddy’s. Correlation is not causation but it’s a cheap thing to try and the Mancave rollers are visually and tactilely infinitely more pleasing than the factory ones so not a complete waste of money even if they don’t solve the problem. |
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Posted: 1/27/2023 2:29:16 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: FWIW this is one of my theories also. My gun with Mancave rollers eats AE happily as does my buddy’s. Correlation is not causation but it’s a cheap thing to try and the Mancave rollers are visually and tactilely infinitely more pleasing than the factory ones so not a complete waste of money even if they don’t solve the problem. Now if only he’d start making them again. I’d like to order a dozen or so but they’ve been unobtainium for many months. |
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Posted: 1/27/2023 2:09:13 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Now if only he'd start making them again. I'd like to order a dozen or so but they've been unobtainium for many months. |
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Posted: 1/27/2023 2:16:15 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That looks like a nickel plated case? It is hard to tell, but it also doesn't appear to have the coating on it. I wonder if that is just a model/prototype for the show, or the final production product? I spoke with Jamin, on the phone last night. When released for sale it will be full tilt ammo and not anemic garbage. They are dialing in the FPS and powder charge right now. They want stout ammunition but also don’t want to beat up our guns so it is a balance. |
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Posted: 1/27/2023 2:23:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I spoke with Jamin, on the phone last night. When released for sale it will be full tilt ammo and not anemic garbage. They are dialing in the FPS and powder charge right now. They want stout ammunition but also don’t want to beat up our guns so it is a balance. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That looks like a nickel plated case? It is hard to tell, but it also doesn't appear to have the coating on it. I wonder if that is just a model/prototype for the show, or the final production product? I spoke with Jamin, on the phone last night. When released for sale it will be full tilt ammo and not anemic garbage. They are dialing in the FPS and powder charge right now. They want stout ammunition but also don’t want to beat up our guns so it is a balance. So two weeks? My body is ready!! |
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Posted: 1/28/2023 2:59:04 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I spoke with Jamin, on the phone last night. When released for sale it will be full tilt ammo and not anemic garbage. They are dialing in the FPS and powder charge right now. They want stout ammunition but also don’t want to beat up our guns so it is a balance. So proper loads, sweet! |
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Posted: 1/30/2023 5:33:21 PM EDT
[#41]
40gr VMAX is live!
Go go go! |
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Posted: 1/30/2023 5:50:44 PM EDT
[#42]
Damn. I was busy for work and it sold out by the time I got back.
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Posted: 1/30/2023 5:51:10 PM EDT
[#43]
I ordered 4 boxes, can't wait to try them in my SBR'd PS90. I bought tons of AE stuff and reliabitly is not good, with the FN stuff it runs 100%.
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Posted: 1/30/2023 6:02:16 PM EDT
[#44]
CPR? I can’t see any pricing and I’m curious.
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Posted: 1/30/2023 6:04:34 PM EDT
[#45]
It’s in today’s email ad - 29.99/50
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Posted: 1/30/2023 6:07:12 PM EDT
[#46]
Did y’all get email notifications? I never got one.
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Posted: 1/30/2023 6:13:20 PM EDT
[#47]
Aaaand it’s out of stock already-
https://palmettostatearmory.com/aac-5-7x28mm-ammo-40-grain-v-max-50rd-box.html |
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Posted: 1/30/2023 6:15:17 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s in today’s email ad - 29.99/50 Already OOS Edit: beat by 2 min |
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Posted: 1/30/2023 6:25:09 PM EDT
[#49]
I even just bought new p90 mags waiting for this
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Posted: 1/30/2023 6:35:57 PM EDT
[#50]
OOS by the time I looked.
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